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Hetzner Adds 8-core ODROID-XU4 ARM Based Server Line

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I see the Marvell chip now from Scaleway....   

Marvell's stuff is generally meh.  Not high performance on their CPUs.  It's part of the Armada family: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/armada-xp/

Same chip was used in some Synology NAS solutions.

Marvell is known for doing semi-custom builds for large scale orders....  

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I have to wonder what was really going on, i.e. nobody was willing to pay the old price?  I wonder if the new price is sustainable.

Online is one of a handful of hosts where I don't worry about sustainability. Their parent companies' $5 billion in revenues from its 17 million cable/broadband subscribers (not to mention the $10 billion plus net worth of Iliad's founder Xavier Niel) gives them a larger cushion than 99% of hosting companies and allows them to occasionally take a loss on a product just so they can hurt the competition, and I think this Scaleway  price cut was a direct response to OVH's new 2.99 OpenStack offerings.

Puts Scaleway near $50~ retail pricing...   Puts Hetzner in the neigborhood of $90-100.

The costs for Scaleway and Hetzner are probably much less because both benefit from corporate efficiencies that are enjoyed by only a few other hosts: they own their own datacenters (i.e. they own both  the buildings and the land the buildings are built on), they've both slashed overhead by highly automating everything, both have lower energy costs than most hosts (Online largely due to French energy subsidies, Hetzner due to the use of 100% renewable energy and the energy efficiency of their DC's which they build and designed. Read this for Hetzner's explanation of how they can sustain their prices: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Hetzner_Pricing/en ).

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There's a HN thread about the Hetzner servers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10115322

Also one about Scaleway price cut mentioned above:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10159989

That one has a bunch of comments and links to a Scaleway vs DigitalOcean benchmark:

https://www.amon.cx/blog/scaleway-vs-digitalocean-and-deploying-webapps-on-arm/

Scaleway comes out about equivalent to a Raspberry Pi model 2, which again is about 50% of the XU4 in cpu speed, by other measurements I've seen.

Anyway Scaleway still seems interesting though the measurements are all over the place.  I'll have to test my own applications but if my estimate that it's 10% of the speed of my i7 holds up, that's potentially handy, since it's also about 10% of the cost but has hourly billing instead of monthly.  Sometimes I use the i7 for long computations (like weeks) and if I can spin up 50 of these Scaleways that's like getting five more i7's for $6 a day total, not bad at all if it speeds a 1 week computation down to 1 day.

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This is from July but I just noticed it yesterday:

* http://enterprisetimes.co.uk/2015/07/14/ovh-unleashes-armv8-public-cloud/

* http://cavium.com/newsevents-OVH-Launches-Worlds-first-ARMv8-Based-Public-Cloud-Powered-by-Cavium-ThunderX-Workload-Optimized-Processors.html

It looks like OVH is going to be offering 48-core ARM servers (using Cavium chips) under the RunAbove brand.  That might be the "big announcement to come" that Runabove.com mentions if you click "Instances".  Apparently they are ARM64 cores running at around 2 ghz, so loosely scaling from the Odroid benchmarks, that's in the i7-3930 or E5-1650 range, if you don't mind the large number of cores.  Wow!  Maybe Intel's first real competition for general purpose servers.  RunAbove also has some very fast Power8 servers, but they are less energy efficient than the competing Intel cpus from what I heard, so they're only used for special applications.

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Scaleway out of free units and Hetzner just removing their offer... not a good start for both.

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