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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Not going to catch any flack about Vanilla and LET from me :)  I like and dislike Vanilla.  It's ADHD in nature, as is Reddit.  Difference is Reddit has a search that works well and subreddits (mind you I am a low use person in relation to Reddit and not real fond of it)... Feels like Slashdot if it mutated into 10k verticals and grew up a bit.


Your usability practices are really similar to mine and probably to many folks out there.


I entirely agree that B is problematic.  Views top side of activity are timeline in nature ala Facebook or others running most recent toilet roll.  There is a bit of last post or comment on the front homepage view, but where it is and what is displayed isn't very usable.


I mainly live in the top right side view -  Unread Content: https://vpsboard.com/discover/unread/.


Life is alright in that view, but if you get behind like I am known to do lately, you can get overwhelmed.


Long term I think you will see some more changes with IPB or some custom views of the data to cover B.  IPB really mutated in the last release and sub release.
 
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HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
IPB hasn't been my best friend.  However I feel like it's a decent use over some of the other solutions out there.


My gripe with IPB has always been the WYSIWYG Editor and the general feel of it.  However, from all the possible solutions out there, each forum software has their own pros and cons.  Also, I'd rather not go with an open source solution as I'd rather have a support staff/group liable to actually fix all the issues within IPB, instead of the lazy answer everyone gives which is "code it yourself".  


Switching from one forum software to another isn't as easy as simply running the import script as so many people think.  During the transition, frequently there are issues and even data loss which we are constantly trying to fix and repair.  Switching forum software isn't just moving from one to another, we have to manually verify that not only does the content move over but the formatting and configurations aren't messed up.  There's no easy 1-to-1 solution out there.  IPB isn't the best, however it's not the worst.  Out of all the other options available that I've seen, it's been the better evil out of what's available, short of coding everything from scratch (which also would take a long time).  


It's something I'ved talked about frequently with the other guys, we can always look into modifying the UI a bit, however IPB likes to do really funky things between two major releases.  Most of your comments are related to the UI, so I'll see if there's things we can do on that front.  I personally can bitch hours about the UI and the back-end-ness of IPB.  However, remember there's a ton of good things IPB does that we don't really care about because... well... it's not an issue.  You know, the client only complains if something's broken ;)  
 

Darwin

Member
Like I said, the engine is OK, just usability that isn't very good and, like you said, can possibly be fixed with a theme/UI customization.


I forgot to mention, but current ads banner breaks mobile view.
 

souen

Active Member
I like Vanilla's recent discussions layout as well as formatting posts with Markdown, the closest thing to that here is probably the Unread Content page, if there were an account setting to swap the forum groups view with unread threads view on the front page. However, IPB seems more robust than Vanilla (maybe because I've installed Vanilla before and saw more of its rough edges, never tried to install IPB) and I'm okay with the current layout. It's well-organised with its top navigation menu, the threads list view is nicely spaced and not cluttered.


tl;dr: is susceptible to them newfangled, ADHD-inducing Vanilla layouts but can live with current functional IPB layout. :)
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
IPB isn't the worst for sure.


Coding ones own solution is novel.  Good luck with that pipe smoking crackhead approach to the world.  


I wonder if the techtards out there who adhere to the DIY destruction approach get mad at their automobile and go cobble a new one of their creation in their garage, or tire of their home and cobble one from the land out in the countryside.  I know the answer to these questions, conclusively, NO.


I am all about DIY, but where approachable and reasonable.  A forum editor is a MFer let alone all the other stuff that goes into the software stack.   I wrote BBS software before many of you were born.  Same stuff as forums, preceded forums, much of the same functionality.  It was neverending development.


Swapping unread with the main everything view is complicated.   It should be done where the user is logged in.  When not logged in the main view of everything should be default.  I have no clue if IPB supports doing such without shooting one in the figurative foot and getting slapped each and every upgrade.
 

HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
9 hours ago, GIANT_CRAB said:



Red Hat released a music video a few weeks back... The best place with the shadowman face? Pretty funny and cool.


That's a lie.  I see more than a red hat. 
 

GM2015

New Member
How educated are "DDOS" attackers? I've just seen a thread on lowendtalk and made me wonder about something.


Are they smart enough to go direct for the IP or are they going for hostnames?
 

HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
How educated are "DDOS" attackers? I've just seen a thread on lowendtalk and made me wonder about something.


Are they smart enough to go direct for the IP or are they going for hostnames?

Lots of people are various colors of stupid.  That's all I gotta say. 
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
How educated are "DDOS" attackers? I've just seen a thread on lowendtalk and made me wonder about something.


Are they smart enough to go direct for the IP or are they going for hostnames?

Not usually very educated in any traditional sense.


They are malicious and easily made angry.


I'd say the attack type depends on the tool(s) they are using.   Most will attack just a hostname or single IP.  


Ones that are more malicious and have more flexible resources for attacks or can form their own will go after whole ranges of IPs and anything at your provider that they can ding.  Speaking from experience here on provider side.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Too short of an outage to warrant its own thread but Leaseweb's DC in Manassas, VA had a partial outage this afternoon and the Public/Private clouds are still down:




[US] Power outage WDC datacenter, public and private cloud impacted


February 23, 2016 21:18:00 (EST)


Dear Leaseweb customer,


Today, at 01:50 PM EST, we encountered a power outage in a part of our WDC-01 data center. The power has been restored but our public and private cloud environments are still down.


Leaseweb engineers are working hard to get the environments back up and running as soon as possible.


We will keep you updated via this NOC posting.


========================================



[US, WDC-01] Power disturbance datacenter facilities [Update]



February 23, 2016 20:05:00 (EST)


Code:
Dear LeaseWeb customer,

[Update 02:15 PM EST]
Power has been restored and all infrastructure is powered up. Specific services may still be booting.

Today, at 01:50 PM EST, we encountered a power outage in a part of our WDC-01 data center. This power outage might result in unavailability of your services. 

Our data center engineers are on-site to investigate the cause of this issue. Please be assured that we will do our utmost best to keep the downtime as short as possible.

We will update you again as soon as we have more information.
 
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DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Reason #998 that I tend to avoid buying in the low end these days:


conversation from LET


customer complainsi am waiting for a vps to be Provisioned since nearly 3 days 


provider replies:  As for the new VPS, if i'm doing migrations, provisioning is the least of my worries. You've been refunded. 
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Reason #998 that I tend to avoid buying in the low end these days:


conversation from LET


customer complainsi am waiting for a vps to be Provisioned since nearly 3 days 


provider replies:  As for the new VPS, if i'm doing migrations, provisioning is the least of my worries. You've been refunded. 

Utterly unacceptable.  I realize guys get busy, but taking 30 minutes out of the day to do the other work say twice a day, if even that... Too much for them.   Sad.


Which brand was this so I can entirely avoid them?
 

GM2015

New Member
Anyone interested in online.net special offers can order from https://console.online.net/en/order/server_limited.


Seen it mentioned on lowendtalk.


Deals:


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They of course posted this after the 20th. I would have ordered the the E3 1230v3 to replace the black friday offer I've got which is the e3 1220 now. Somebody said the e3 1220 came with v2.


Damn. Now I'm stuck with 2 servers and some time to determine whether to drop the e3 1220.


Never mind, also ordered a Xeon L3426 for storage.


Anyone knows what happens with a service you want to cancel?


The big "Terminate" button is tempting, but also scary.


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Is that the cancel button? Don't want to find out that my dedicated gets wiped off panel with proxmox and some VM-s on it.
 
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DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen

GM2015

New Member
Yes


Click the button before the 20th and the service will terminate at the end of the month (click it after the 20th and termination is end of next month).


Not mentioned on that page but all include hardware RAID.  I picked up one of the 2 x E5620's.

Yes, can confirm both the L3426(now out of stock) and the e3 1230v2.


No idea about the e3 1220, but it's probably the same as the Black Friday special, in which case yes.


Thank your for answer about the termination, managed to terminate it by 01/April.
 
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Geek

Technolojesus
Verified Provider
In case you were curious, this is what a 5.56 round (well, several of them!) does to an empty fire extinguisher.


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Science!


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