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maounique

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Post the LET conversation

You can do that as well as him. That is not confidential information, or are you referring at PMs?
As for hiding the issue, which I think is the main problem here, why did not Ishaq ask someone else to do it, I think it was an obvious conflict of interests there... He could have asked Jarland, after all, he owed him a big favour for a similar thing.
 

Jordan

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We'll know who's lying when you post those LET conversations.

You can do that as well as him. That is not confidential information, or are you referring at PMs?
As for hiding the issue, which I think is the main problem here, why did not Ishaq ask someone else to do it, I think it was an obvious conflict of interests there... He could have asked Jarland, after all, he owed him a big favour for a similar thing.

PM's.

I agree, Ishaq should have asked for a second opinion. A lesson has been learnt.
 

bsdguy

Member
Hahaha. The LET conversations can't be posted anymore because ishaq from budgetnode - in a gross abuse of his admin power - massacred the threat and serial deleted posts.

Maybe it's easier to understand now why jordon asked for that - well knowing it's not possible.

But then, that was ishaqs desire in the first place to vanish everything he didn't like.
 

Jordan

New Member
You can do that as well as him. That is not confidential information, or are you referring at PMs?
As for hiding the issue, which I think is the main problem here, why did not Ishaq ask someone else to do it, I think it was an obvious conflict of interests there... He could have asked Jarland, after all, he owed him a big favour for a similar thing.

I don't know Vanilla.. but I'm fairly certain an admin cannot delete YOUR PM's. It is an inbox. Once received, they are there.
 

bsdguy

Member
Publishing PMs? Cute. Thank you for demonstrating your attitude and mindset so clearly. Rules? Only for others! But then, ishaq already demonstrated that plenty yesterday.

Lesson learned? Indeed! -> STAY AWAY FROM budgetnode NO MATTER WHAT! JUST STAY AWAY!
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Why would LET allow something like this from an admin? That simply puzzles me.

Some people do not understand business. Sometimes you get good feedback, sometimes bad. As a business owner or staff member you have to turn whatever type of feedback into something positive, be it through enjoying the praises on the fruits of your labor or as a learning experience. Clearly this ishaq fella doesn't understand that.
Case in point below:
BudgetNode Rep said:
Post the LET conversation, otherwise you're just making it look more and more like you have facts you do not wish for people to see.

rule #1a: never call out a customer in public, or start threads about them on a forum, no matter how much of an asshole you may think they are...

rule #1b: the customer doesn't have to defend themselves to a business on a public forum even if they publicly complained about the business.

rule #2: children with part time businesses who aren't lawyers shouldn't publicly accuse their customers of libel. If you feel you've been libeled you keep your mouth shut on public forums and other social media and instead do what adults do and consult an attorney.

I've always said that studying low end VPS "businesses" should be a requirement in business schools because they provide a perfect example of how not to run a business.

There is a reason why 99% of these "CEOs" and "Vice Presidents of Whatever" can't make a living from their businesses and end up deadpooling and this thread (and the related ones on LET) are a perfect example..

WasNotWSS" said:
The disk was clearly overloaded- it took seconds for a basic 'ls ~' to return. Rather than cancel me, they offered to migrate me to their new VPS server in LA. Rather than being migrated,

If a provider offers to migrate you to a new node because the node you're on is overloaded...RUN to a new provider as fast as you can because if a provider can't manage the loads on their servers properly it won't be long before that brand new node is also suffering the same problems as the old one.
 

Jordan

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Publishing PMs? Cute. Thank you for demonstrating your attitude and mindset so clearly. Rules? Only for others! But then, ishaq already demonstrated that plenty yesterday.

Lesson learned? Indeed! -> STAY AWAY FROM budgetnode NO MATTER WHAT! JUST STAY AWAY!

Wow you're just rambling aimlessly now... I've been asking you to publish the PM's for ages... All I've done is requested you post them for the sake of providing a balanced argument (as did Lee), but clearly you were getting carried away.

If a provider offers to migrate you to a new node because the node you're on is overloaded...RUN to a new provider as fast as you can because if a provider can't manage the loads on their servers properly it won't be long before that brand new node is also suffering the same problems as the old one.

At the time everyone was being moved to a new node, because the disk configuration in that location was inadequate. His move was just being fast tracked.

As for the rest of the post - what do you know about our background? Very little.
 
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jarland

The ocean is digital
Hahaha. The LET conversations can't be posted anymore because ishaq from budgetnode - in a gross abuse of his admin power - massacred the threat and serial deleted posts.

Maybe it's easier to understand now why jordon asked for that - well knowing it's not possible.

But then, that was ishaqs desire in the first place to vanish everything he didn't like.

One post was deleted, the rest was split into another topic. All but that one post should be there. That one post is there again but I had to type it in my own reply, I had no other way to retrieve it due to vanilla not working. If I am mistaken, please PM me over there and let's talk about what else is missing.

The PM should definitely still be there for you and I can access it. LET PMs are not private from admins, but admins should not be simply reading them for fun. That is an ability that should be used to confirm things like someone selling services via PM or sending spam.

Hahahahahahaaaaa... I wonder where he got his lessons on how to use the admin position to silence critics and hide mistakes instead of manning up and apologise... Actually, you did man up as it is the custom over there, you threatened physical violence advocating breaking the law, I guess that is the way in the loonie star state.
I thought he should have got the same treatment he gave you, he agreed with your abuse, you should have turned a blind eye to his, isn't it how it works?
Looks like some admins are more equal than others...

You were banned after being extended more courtesy than most other members for repeatedly taking threads into territories that they did not need to go (religion, politics, etc) culminating in your use of LET as a platform to declare that child molesters are victims. Every single piece of that conversation exists in a private forum for all moderators and admins to view at their convenience, because when we remove things it should be done transparently. This is not the place for your airing of grievances in my honest opinion, but it's not my forum so I'll leave that to others.
 

WasNotWSS

Member
If a provider offers to migrate you to a new node because the node you're on is overloaded...RUN to a new provider as fast as you can because if a provider can't manage the loads on their servers properly it won't be long before that brand new node is also suffering the same problems as the old one.

Not to derail this drama-thread, but I decided to give the benefit of the doubt, since, hell- he's an Admin! Plus, his answer after I was moved took about a minute. Changing the MTU in 2017? Not quite so much. Hell, I don't even put up with that sort of hokiness on my personal network, and I still have 10/half JetDirect cards on segments of it.

It told me that they had an answer, but no control over the network itself, and that frightened me as much as a Bitcoin payment nulled-WHMCS in Ukrane.

At the time everyone was being moved to a new node, because the disk configuration in that location was inadequate. His move was just being fast tracked.

You'll notice that at no point did I infer that you were unprofessional- as that was not my impression. Just didn't fit the bill for what I wanted at the time due to issues. I don't expect to get my ass sucked for $10/mo, but I also don't expect to be pushed away, either.

</derail>
 

Jordan

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Not to derail this drama-thread, but I decided to give the benefit of the doubt, since, hell- he's an Admin! Plus, his answer after I was moved took about a minute. Changing the MTU in 2017? Not quite so much. Hell, I don't even put up with that sort of hokiness on my personal network, and I still have 10/half JetDirect cards on segments of it.

It told me that they had an answer, but no control over the network itself, and that frightened me as much as a Bitcoin payment nulled-WHMCS in Ukrane.

MTU change is down to the Voxility GRE tunnel. Not ideal, and soon will not be an issue.
 

bsdguy

Member
Wow you're just rambling aimlessly now... I've been asking you to publish the PM's for ages... All I've done is requested you post them for the sake of providing a balanced argument (as did Lee), but clearly you were getting carried away.

Thanks but there was no further confirmation needed; it was already clear that at budgetnode while playing admin they actually don't care a rats ass about rules. One of which is: private conversations are not made public.

You see I profoundly detest ishaq but rules are rules, hence I would under no circumstances publicly post a private conversation with him.

Not that it was needed but, voilà, there you have yet one more difference between you guys and me. ;)
 

Jordan

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Thanks but there was no further confirmation needed; it was already clear that at budgetnode while playing admin they actually don't care a rats ass about rules. One of which is: private conversations are not made public.

You see I profoundly detest ishaq but rules are rules, hence I would under no circumstances publicly post a private conversation with him.

Not that it was needed but, voilà, there you have yet one more difference between you guys and me. ;)

Ishaq has given permission for them to be posted, and wants you to.
 

Lee

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
@bsdguy, now you have to admit it is now coming across as if there is something in that conversation you do not want anyone to see.
 

bsdguy

Member
Ishaq has given permission for them to be posted, and wants you to.
I'll try to make that easy to understand: There are rules. Not publishing private conversations is one of those rules.

Now, I know and it has been amply proven that ishaq doesn't care a rats ass about rules and is more than happy to publish things that he came to know from private conversations, but that doesn't somehow magically change how the world works.

It is also known and amply proven that ishaq is dead-seriously believing that any- and everyone has to dance to his tune and to do whatever he pleases but, alas, that's a problem he'll have to address with a professional psychologist.

As far as I'm concerned I don't give a rats ass about what ishaq wants or wants not. I'll stick to the rules of the civilized world.

@Lee Strange that you say that. You are a mod and you should know that I sent the requested report incl. unedited PMs (except for credit card data). So, *obviously* it's not about hiding.
 

Lee

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
I'll try to make that easy to understand: There are rules. Not publishing private conversations is one of those rules.

Ok, there are unwritten rules that private conversations should stay private, but if both agree then no issue. All it will do is add weight to your position for those of us on the outer edge of this.
 

Lee

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
@Jordan - Now that you have registered feel free to add some offers for folks that may not be familiar with the brand.
 
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