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Taking a couple years off... College

jarland

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KuJoe said:
Don't take out student loans, if you do it's a waste of time and money. ;)

I personally don't believe college is of any real value, but then again I learned more outside of college than I did in college so maybe college is useful for others who don't learn things outside of a structured environment.
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College with minimal effort to graduate = no better than anyone else.

College with full effort to best utilize time spent dedicated to educating yourself in your field of choice = better than the person who did the same and has no paper to say he did so.

Another way to state it:

Degree + knowledge > Knowledge without degree.

Just because it isn't worth what it was 30 years ago doesn't even begin to remove all value from college. If something had a value of 10 and has been reduced to 5, it is still greater than 0.
 
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KuJoe

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I'm just speaking from personal experience. My college degree has only negatively impacted my life so it's removed value from my future. I am sure I'm not the only one either.
 
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@KuJoe I respect your personal experience but a lot depends on the school, and what that school wants to make you into. The CS101 class at my school 14 years ago was definitely not something anyone with a day job could do without prior mastery of the subject, as it jumped straight into programming with deadlines assuming that students already had some basic experience (like a calculator due by the second class and getting harder from there). The CS105 class for us business students was far far easier, as it only covered all of MS Office and a VBA project or two.
 
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KuJoe said:
I'm just speaking from personal experience. My college degree has only negatively impacted my life so it's removed value from my future. I am sure I'm not the only one either.
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Out of curiosity, could you explain how your degree negatively impacts you?
 
Aldryic C'boas

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There were a handful of classes and instructors I enjoyed but IMO I didn't get $75k worth of enjoyment nor did I learn $75k worth of knowledge.
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I had more IT experience than some of my teachers at that point
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One of the reasons I haven't sold my house in Florida yet is because my student loans would prevent me from buying another house in the next 10+ years
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Above are three quips from the post I linked to, each of which could answer the question on their own without further context. 
 
KuJoe

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Aldryic is correct. The limitations my degree has put on my ability to finance anything has greatly impacted my life and my future negatively. Even if I stay current with my loans, my debt to income ratio is bad enough so that I won't be able to buy another house and I'm not sure what it will be like when I need another car.

So far I've seen 0 benefits from my degree, nor do I expect to ever see any benefits from it so it doesn't even balance out in the end.
 
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Maybe people are finally starting to realize almost all educational institutions are for-profit in one way or another, and the people running them care more about making money than education.

There's a lot of things you can learn without needing college/university, especially thanks to the internet. Some things really need to be in classes though like lab work, etc.
 
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KuJoe said:
Aldryic is correct. The limitations my degree has put on my ability to finance anything has greatly impacted my life and my future negatively. Even if I stay current with my loans, my debt to income ratio is bad enough so that I won't be able to buy another house and I'm not sure what it will be like when I need another car.

So far I've seen 0 benefits from my degree, nor do I expect to ever see any benefits from it so it doesn't even balance out in the end.
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This.  What you learn is not worth the price you pay.  I think I've said that here a few times already.
 
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Zach said:
This.  What you learn is not worth the price you pay.  I think I've said that here a few times already.
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That expensive piece of paper does have one use, there are many jobs which require it... but many others would rather have someone proven themselves.

Video game dev degree = Maybe you get a job starting at $25k (soooo many applicants, you still need a nice portfolio)


Created a successful commercial title = Start at $50k
 
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