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GreenValueHost becoming ColoCrossing, dumping providers, etc.

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Not going to happen.  It's best we take a loss and our clients choose their own provider rather than being forced onto GVH.
Customer (Vancouver) breathes sigh of relief . :p

A few months ago it was GVH poking Patrick/Iniz in the eye over Amsterdam.  Now it's shaking AnthonySmith's cage in Miami (or trying to).  Unsure what the sickness at GVH / CC is.   But I hope both Patrick and AnthonySmith find their meat chewing teeth and bite off a piece of GVH's pocketbook.
...and in between those two events there was this...


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We'll also match: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/28385/vpsdime-everybody-should-backup-50gb-backup-vps-for-9-45-year

in Los Angeles and you can use the VPS for anything you'd like as long as it's allowed by our ToS. Uplink would be 1gbps instead of 300mbps and bandwidth would be 1TB instead of 500GB. Contact us to purchase. Nothing against @serverian
 

HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
My only comment in this thread without reading it all...

 


We have special arrangements that would would make your jaw drop, arrangements you'd likely never be able to obtain from anyone which explains how we're able to sell at the prices we do.
 

LOL.  Isn't this what Chris Fabio used to say when he started bringing in those high RAM low cost VMs?


#WINNING
 
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GVH-Jon

Banned
That looks like a girls handwriting.
In my free time I enjoy writing and composing country style love songs, with my latest single being "Just fall into my arms". The songs I write have sort of a feminist feel to them and I literally have stacks of song drafts, so my handwriting is a little influenced by what I write.

Nothing against homosexuals, but even given all of the above I'm not gay - This is just my thing.
 

trewq

Active Member
Verified Provider
Nothing against homosexuals, but even given all of the above I'm not gay - This is just my thing.
It's interesting that you feel the need to clarify that.

Why would you write out forum replies by hand? Seems like a waste of time.
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Nothing against homosexuals, but even given all of the above I'm not gay - This is just my thing.

Really?!?! There is that other site where you can stew in liquified bile and lol about spam, network abuse, etc. You can do that while making up excuses as to why your pimple of a company on a wart sized company can't deal with common network abuse others do.  If ... you.... spent as much time on running your business and doing basic math... you might have a business.  Instead you write glorified love letters, act rather strange and drum up stupidity.

A good book says something about knowing them by their deeds.  With this combo deal of this thread, and a few over there, yeah,  hopefully lots of people took notes, screencaps, referenced materials, etc.

I think most of CC is a man-boy love cult myself.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
We know. Your lack of self-awareness leads to great spectacle for us that just kick back and watch your repeated embarrassments. At the end of the day kiddo - no amount of your lies, flamboyance, or exaggeration will change reality and give you the importance and self-worth you so desperately crave.  But thank you for giving us something to laugh at, and reminding all of the real providers how *not* to do things.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
There is that other site where you can stew in liquified bile and lol about spam, network abuse, etc.
You completely misunderstand the situation.  The network (ColoCrossing) is proactive on fighting SPAM and is being unjustly abused and harassed by the evil monsters at Spamhaus who are living in the dark ages and just don't understand "the new, commodity, vps/cloud hosting industry".  MPKossen correctly identified the problem when he said "if Spamhaus was really concerned to stop SPAM they should be working with providers rather than against them."

Sarcasm aside: a few pages back in this comedy thread I pointed out a couple of proactive anti-SPAM dedicated/VPS/cloud providers who Spamhaus does work closely with and who have 0 SBL's and a cute little Spam White Hat badge on their pages at Spamhaus: Incero and SeFlow.  Hell, I've even heard rumors that Spamhaus works with basement VPS providers who have pony fetishes so I'm a little confused where the "Spamhaus doesn't understand VPS/cloud" and "Spamhaus works against providers" crap is coming from. :p

In my free time I enjoy writing and composing country style love songs,...
I hope that your writing has improved from the days when you were writing TaylorSwift/Mickey Mouse ditties that would have made the kids on the short bus cringe.
 
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GVH-Jon

Banned
Biloh isn't lying. SpamHaus is evil and their main intention isn't to help fight spam. SpamHaus main intention/purpose is to reign with power over the Internet through their bias and unfair practices coupled with their blatant blackmailing of providers.


I have no respect for SpamHaus as an SBL nor an organization.
 
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OSTKCabal

Active Member
Verified Provider
Biloh isn't lying. SpamHaus is evil and their main intention isn't to help fight spam. SpamHaus main intention/purpose is to reign with power over the Internet through their bias and unfair practices coupled with their blatant blackmailing of providers.


I have no respect for SpamHaus as an SBL nor an organization.
I wonder why a company affiliated with would dislike Spamhaus, a company that publicly reveals their abusive and spam-based nature... Hmm.
 

SkylarM

Well-Known Member
Verified Provider
Biloh isn't lying. SpamHaus is evil and their main intention isn't to help fight spam. SpamHaus main intention/purpose is to reign with power over the Internet through their bias and unfair practices coupled with their blatant blackmailing of providers.


I have no respect for SpamHaus as an SBL nor an organization.
I've never had issues with Spamhaus, then again I've never sold an /18 to a spam organization fully aware of their intent to spam like ColoCrossing has.

At this point you should let Ernie log into your forum accounts to post like his WHMCS access, you'd look like less of a tool in that case.
 

GVH-Jon

Banned
SpamHaus should have their site seized by the FBI. Their executives should be promptly extradited to the U.S to stand trial on charges of abusing their influence to blackmail legitimate companies, and in addition to that they should be forced to pay at least a handful million dollars in damages to companies such as ColoCrossing for their actions.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
It's funny how those of us providers that care more about a quality network than making a quick buck don't seem to have issues with Spamhaus.  Funnier still when those that greedily get their hands dirty start crying about the consequences.

It's more than just spam.  The amount of abuse (brute attempts, various attacks, exploits) I see coming out of CC space is unreal.  Within the next year I could see it getting to the point where a lot of folks just start blocking them completely.  Assuming they manage to scrap together enough scam deals to still be around by then.
 
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GVH-Jon

Banned
Nobody outside of our company has access to our WHMCS at this time. We had temporary assistance in provisioning orders when we were backlogged. Your Skype log was from a year ago.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
You need to understand something with spamhaus....

While they can be heavy handed, it isn't unjust. It isn't like this is the first patch of SBL's Colocrossing has had and they're just getting the raw end of the ass plug. They've had 500 listings in the last 6 months (not counting the crap load last year) and many times it's the same SPAM going out the same /24 even after someone at CC has claimed the user is terminated.

You have to be a pretty terrible network operator to get the amount of hate that SH is sending their way. Trust me, I know first hand. My old employer in Portland willingly sold /22's to spammers and rotated the same spammers on a monthly basis because he'd get listed. Who had to go beg/plead spamhaus for delisting? Me.

The day I finally got out of that prison I wrote spamhaus the most massive email detailing the whole spam operation to them. Said old company had every single subnet SWIP'd to them listed for 3+ months and even to this day spamhaus is quick to escalate things because they know they've been up to no good before.

At the end of the day, CC is full of shit because when I signed up with them I had to sign a big contract and I'm fairly sure even scan parts of my ID to prove who I was. Their claims of 'fake IDs' is laughable. I guess "Asdf Ghjk" is a popular name in one of those countries the US is turning into a lake. >_>

They can claim innocence but at the end of the day there is RDNS records showing full /20's and /19's sold to spammers, usually the same spammers too (you can see patterns).

Is spamhaus a saint? Hell no, but they're a needed 'evil' alas. Or would you rather everyone uses UCEProtect?

Francisco
 
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Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
It's funny how those of us providers that care more about a quality network than making a quick buck don't seem to have issues with Spamhaus.  Funnier still when those that greedily get their hands dirty start crying about the consequences.

It's more than just spam.  The amount of abuse (brute attempts, various attacks, exploits) I see coming out of CC space is unreal.  Within the next year I could see it getting to the point where a lot of folks just start blocking them completely.  Assuming they manage to scrap together enough scam deals to still be around by then.
This already happens. There has been 1 - 2 threads on WHT that have hit multi page of people asking for a complete list of all of CC's IP space due to the amount of abuse coming off it.

Francisco
 
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