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DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
the client did need slapped down for making the decision to spend $100 and signing up for 2 years in the first place
Two observations about that statement:

1. The people on LET/WHT who shout "it's the customers fault so they deserve whatever they got" the loudest tend to be people who make their living working a day job for someone else's company because their part-time business isn't bringing in enough to pay their bills. .  Maybe, just, maybe, one of the reasons why their part-time business doesn't bring in enough money to support them (or to support paying actual employees instead of hiring poorly paid contractors) is because of the poor attitude they have towards customers.

2. Customers should do their research and read reviews BUT nowhere in either the US or NY State consumer protection laws (and NY state where CVPS is based has some of the most pro-consumer laws in the US) does it state that the customers rights are diminished if they don't do their research so by law he didn't need to get slapped down.  When a consumer spends $100 and signs up with a service provider for 2 years they are doing so with the expectation that the company they are buying from is advertising its products and services, and the quality of those services, truthfully and accurately, and not engaging in false advertising.  If the company is falsely advertising its product then it is the one which needs to get slapped down.

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Good job to whichever LET admin or mod once again tried to hide a negative CVPS thread from the search engines by putting it in off topic and sinking it.

Quoting a LET member from that thread today (http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/879171/#Comment_879171 )

That said, I'm also wondering like you and others. About the fact that obviously "Careful! Snake. Will bite" seems to not keep away quite many from putting their hand into the box anyway. Wondering also that LEB/LET still tolerates that company that I (subjectively and maybe wrongly) perceive as being dangerously close to the edge of scamming.

While I certainly agree that personal attacks on LEB/LET staff is not acceptable, I'm wondering why that very staff seems to not have any problems at all to keep CVPS and their offers active here rather than banning CVPS for some time. This leaves me under the impression that attacking/lying to/scamming/betraying LEB/LET members (by e.g. CVPS) seems perfektly OK to the LEB/LET staff.

I don't know about you and others but frankly, that attitude makes me wonder whether it wouldn't be advisable to stay away from the companies represented by J. Biloh, mpkossen, and other staff, too. Well noted, I do not know a single bad thing about those companies but, being a human, I can't help but to become mistrusting.
Can we get a show of hands of all of the LET/B admins/mods who have never received free credits/services from a provider (according to a GVH post on WHT today, mpkossen isn't among that group who has never accepted free services from a provider because GVH did give him free credits  )
 
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Lee

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
Can we get a show of hands of all of the LET/B admins/mods who have never received free credits/services from a provider (according to a GVH post on WHT today, mpkossen isn't among that group who has never accepted free services from a provider because GVH did give him free credits  )
I can't speak for Maarten because I have no idea what/if he has anything with GVH.  Nekki whilst moderator did openly post in the cess pit at LET that Jonny just randomly upgraded him to some VIP status and offered free credits. But as noted he was very open about it and he even posted the response he got from Jonny explaining what it was for.

As for me I would except nothing from anyone for free, just to test, as a favour or anything else.  If I need services I will call you not the other way around.

But anyway, I just stopped by to cover off Dr Mikes comments, I have not logged in here for months and don't really intend to again.

Cya.
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
I have not logged in here for months and don't really intend to again.
Aww fooey, you'll be back. You love me. Don't think I've not forgotten our Google Hangout chats with the old WHP crew. Don't make this a 'us vs them' thing. :)

People are going to hate on you for being a mod there just as people there hate on me for this place and past actions/words. I don't care any more what others think anymore. I'm just doing my own thing and trying to make a nice little community and resource for the industry. The CC bullshit drama that plagued this place (although mostly warranted) is basically equal with that of what is on LET nowadays.

Anyhow, nice to see you around again even if it was limited and not happening again. Best of luck with maintaining sanity over there.
 

Lee

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
You fucker, you made sign in again.

That comment was not meant as a dig, I just never sign in here and probably would not have if it was not for the "ZOMG you should see what DrMike just said about you" messages I got :p

It's honestly not an us vs them thing, I distanced myself from the wider WHP group (That's the google community members) because it turned out to be a leaky drum of certain people saying things to others to cause trouble and repeating things that were not to be repeated, and I can't be arsed with people that you can't trust with anything.  So better just to walk away completely.

As a a result I just tend to post more at LET and look over other places without posting too much.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
MannDude said "People are going to hate on you for being a mod there"
I don't hate on him, or think any different of him because he became a mod there, and my rant wasn't directed at him.  It was directed at the head admin over there who spent most of the last year pushing crap on unsuspecting buyers on LEB and misleading them, and his sidekick admin who over the past year has gone out of his way to sink and close #winning related threads (often at the request of #winning), and attack anyone who criticizes the #winning crew.

That said, I am hating on W1V_Lee, MannDude and everyone else tonight who isn't about to get snowed under by a massive blizzard  (20-30 inches of snow forecast for later tonight/tomorrow., gusts up to 55 mph, and coastal flooding...FUN). :p
 
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MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
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You fucker, you made sign in again.

That comment was not meant as a dig, I just never sign in here and probably would not have if it was not for the "ZOMG you should see what DrMike just said about you" messages I got :p

It's honestly not an us vs them thing, I distanced myself from the wider WHP group (That's the google community members) because it turned out to be a leaky drum of certain people saying things to others to cause trouble and repeating things that were not to be repeated, and I can't be arsed with people that you can't trust with anything.  So better just to walk away completely.

As a a result I just tend to post more at LET and look over other places without posting too much.

Haha. No worries.

I've not posted in the WHP thing in likely a year, for the same reason. Too much of what was said made it's way out of there. Sajan maintains a mailing list now but I don't like not knowing who all is subscribed since it's extended beyond the original WHP group so I rarely use that as well. Oh well.

Anyhow, take care and best of luck.
 
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William

pr0
Verified Provider
While I know this is sort of off topic / free for all, lets try to keep personal insults out of it. Got a report from someone unhappy with some things that were said, so just a reminder is all. No biggy. :)
Can i guess? was it my post? I guess you won't tell me who reported it?

As said before if i ever get my chance to get to Matthewwhatever (That will be 2020 when my probation ends) i'm going to hurt him for what he has done  (not like that gives any issues here in Austria anyway, few months probation and a small fine for nearly killing someone, was just in the news some days ago) - I provided proof for ddos attacks from his Illiad/Online box (which hosts his valuevz domain and his reverse dns domain on the IP) to multiple people in IRC (notably they stopped exactly the minute i told him in PM that i see his IP in logs and then some minutes later the reflection started to bounce in) and i'm happy to do anything to either get him jailed (which is impossible for someone mentally ill anyway in the shitty place that UK is) or hurt.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
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Munzy

Active Member
First off, my appoligies for this!.... yeah...

FUCK YOU GOD DAMN QUERY FOUNDRY~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE YOU AS A COMPANY, I HATE YOU AS A PROVIDER, AND I UPMOST HATE THE GOD DAMN FACT YOU CANCEL SERVICES AND THEN ASK ME IF I WANTED A CREDIT OR A DIFFERENT SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sigh....

ok, I am feeling a tad bit better now......

/cry
 

HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
First off, my appoligies for this!.... yeah...

FUCK YOU GOD DAMN QUERY FOUNDRY~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE YOU AS A COMPANY, I HATE YOU AS A PROVIDER, AND I UPMOST HATE THE GOD DAMN FACT YOU CANCEL SERVICES AND THEN ASK ME IF I WANTED A CREDIT OR A DIFFERENT SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sigh....

ok, I am feeling a tad bit better now......

/cry
Story?
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Today's Miscellaneous hosting world links worthy of a cesspit:

1. New Jersey hosting mogul beloved by many of you sues the gubment (I'll leave it up to you to do a google search...first name is Dave)

2.  Italy's largest host sponsors a racing team (I made it through less than 2 minutes of this 50 minute video before hitting the back button)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uFZnUYxvnNo
 
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