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This is the 3rd or 4th time they are changing? Wish them luck, but their new plans are still unreasonable..
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This is the 3rd or 4th time they are changing? Wish them luck, but their new plans are still unreasonable..
- Daniel
LOL. A few of us offsite were poking fun at that very same offer just an hour or two ago.
This week, it's "new sustainable business model."
Next month, "We've introduced Amsterdam again!"
Following month, "We're discontinuing Amsterdam, but putting you on non-shitty hardware in Buffalo!"
Then, "Re-introducing our 100TB offers!!!"
"Sorry, this has been discontinued."
That write-up is horrid. I'm glad he was finally able to admit that he was operating a loss and providing unsustainable services, just not something you generally shout at the beginning of a promotion. I suspect when people stop buying if the prices increase he'll just go back to trying to remain relevant by being a bottom of the barrel scraper and promote GVH via all the bad reviews he gets where he comes in and puts a bandaid on things.
This week, it's "new sustainable business model."
Next month, "We've introduced Amsterdam again!"
Following month, "We're discontinuing Amsterdam, but putting you on non-shitty hardware in Buffalo!"
Then, "Re-introducing our 100TB offers!!!"
"Sorry, this has been discontinued."
That write-up is horrid. I'm glad he was finally able to admit that he was operating a loss and providing unsustainable services, just not something you generally shout at the beginning of a promotion. I suspect when people stop buying if the prices increase he'll just go back to trying to remain relevant by being a bottom of the barrel scraper and promote GVH via all the bad reviews he gets where he comes in and puts a bandaid on things.
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drmike
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The social universe blew me up earlier with notes on that new offering.
So... managed 1GB OpenVZ VPS + cPanel + SSL Cert
$17.35 price - $3.91 (for actual VPS - see unmanaged below) - $11 for cPanel = $2.44 left over for PayPal, staff, etc.
PLUS, someone is paying for that SSL certificate they are rolling in. That has some value unaccounted for.
If this isn't short-term benefit, I don't know what is. You can't sustain even high schoolers on $2 income per customer per month.
There is a reason managed starts north of $30 a month.
Then again, the whole managed sub market irks me to no end as definition of management mostly seems to be clicking on idiot things in cPanel for customers who refuse to do so. That's barely management to me.
So... managed 1GB OpenVZ VPS + cPanel + SSL Cert
$17.35 price - $3.91 (for actual VPS - see unmanaged below) - $11 for cPanel = $2.44 left over for PayPal, staff, etc.
PLUS, someone is paying for that SSL certificate they are rolling in. That has some value unaccounted for.
If this isn't short-term benefit, I don't know what is. You can't sustain even high schoolers on $2 income per customer per month.
There is a reason managed starts north of $30 a month.
Then again, the whole managed sub market irks me to no end as definition of management mostly seems to be clicking on idiot things in cPanel for customers who refuse to do so. That's barely management to me.
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
I know I could probably find a dozen posts from the past 2 years (if I cared enough to do a search) where he admitted in the past that he was operating at a loss and providing unsustainable services.
TL;DR heard this same song before...yawn
TheLinuxBug
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You should rename this thread to "GreenValueHost is once again doing anything they can to attract attention to their failing company, including admit in public that they are operating in a way that is not sustainable". Why you guys continue to fall for this shit and post it here is beyond me. This type of thread making is about as bad as watching FOX News. Fox News pretends that they are not glamorizing the whole ISIS issue and that they are not giving them way more attention than they deserve, however, they know at the same time it will attract all the mindless rubes to watch, thus making them more money on advertising. The deal with GVH seems to be the same. We know that they are absolute shit, yet we continue to make threads about them giving them exactly what they are wanting: Attention. If you guys would just stop opening these pointless threads, being critical of them, they would get less free advertising and hopefully go out a business more quickly. The only people we can blame for their continued existence is the people opening these threads and the people who are incompetent enough to purchase their services while knowing they are garbage.
my 2 cents.
Cheers!
my 2 cents.
Cheers!
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drmike
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It's a soap opera for nerds.
Like watching a fat kid on the see saw with someone a quarter of his size... Up down, up down, then boom, action and body flying.
Popcorn futures are getting expensive with all I am eating.
All comes down to basic math failures though on his part. Sustainable is pricing where all costs are covered and their is actual profit. That includes paying real workers. Something to be said about the confidence lacking and no brand equity where someone dumps trousers to $17 a month for such and no margins. He can't sell things at sustainable prices, as no one would buy. Stuck selling to the sketch, kids and those so cheap that they'll believe any fish tale.
End result, attracting more bad / problem customers. Which will lead to more shredding of his brand and reputation.
GS-Dylan
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Sad to see hosting companies still trying to be the cheapest at the cost of quality and profit. This gives a bad name to small hosts trying to grow in an already highly competitive market. I remember the master reseller boom, and even better yet the super master reseller boom! That was a terrible time for web hosting companies and alot of fly by night hosts popped up during that time.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Correct and indeed!
All comes down to lack of regulation, lack of actual metrics that are uniform, etc. Everyone is free to lie as much as they want now. Aside from diligent customers pointing to their fails and folks like me (few) actually honing on these places and their misdeeds, there are no checksums.
Time and place where any marketplace like WHT moves to regulate the companies offering it will tear the wheat from the chaff. Chaff will go pound salt on LE*. Most will quickly exit the business.
Saw that thread and laughed. It pretty much reeks of desperation in my opinion. I don't see why any customer would want to pay higher prices knowing they're going to be put on a node with a whole lot of underpaying customers? Obviously to make that work GVH will have to continue to overload their nodes. Unless they simply separate their lower paying clients and basically say FU (which is what they did to their resellers).
Isnt he banned from both let and this forum?
Jasson.Pass
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Didnt WHT community try and have him banned?
Perhaps he'll do another fake suicide announcement next.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Yes, LET banned him I forget why. Probably tired of seeing house brands at CC zapped of cheap VPS sales.
Mann banned GVH here due to multiple lies, false misrepresentations. Same thing would happen to any company similarly engaging in related bad behavior. Nothing specific to GVH other than their conduct.
That happens over there from time to time, yes. I expect in next few months WHT is going to weed GVH out along with a bunch of other brands. Lots of gaming of the system going on over there by providers.
No excuse for that anyway.
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