[Confirmed] GreenValueHost being sold to XFuseSolutions

[drmike]

What I will say about donations is it  was a glimmer of humanity these communities need at times. Plenty of folks can give and should, not for status, but because they can relate, or know the guy or of the guy, or because they had a good day, or someone made them smile.

I hate beg-a-thons,  but LET didn't run one.  Mods stepped up and believed it was right thing.  I respect that. Duke on his own that site and all, he has family and is legitimately banged up, can't work, is in physical therapy still.  He's headed to such this morning.   His leg is a mess and prospect of working on that leg may be never.  So stuck sitting and yeah, starts to fit.

Now where I cross the line is here, cause people are waiting and building up bad feelings.  Delays suck.

There is an assumption that a GVH deal involves Duke pre-paying Jonny for the 'assets'.  Logic and knowledge of many deals in the industry (emphasis on small companies here)  says that most deals aren't cash at the door (unless they are that small).  People usually don't have that sort of liquidity to burn and even folks that do don't want the 'assets' hard dropped on them, rife with problems, fraud, false counts, etc.  The deal is not a pre-paid one.

So with that, please, the worries about money given to Duke prior they are wrong.

 

[MannDude]

Well he did mention on LET I do believe that the acquisition was 'less than the cost of groceries each month' (or something)... so that could mean anywhere between $0 - and say... $2,000. Unsure if he's a Whole Foods shopper or a Aldis shopper but that should put it into perspective at how low valued the brand is/was...

Which is all comical considering Jonny used to boast about making (personally) six figures a year or something. I believe that was said on WHT in the not-so-distant past...

 

[drmike]

Well he did mention on LET I do believe that the acquisition was 'less than the cost of groceries each month' (or something)... so that could mean anywhere between $0 - and say... $2,000. Unsure if he's a Whole Foods shopper or a Aldis shopper but that should put it into perspective at how low valued the brand is/was...

Which is all comical considering Jonny used to boast about making (personally) six figures a year or something. I believe that was said on WHT in the not-so-distant past...

True on perspective @MannDude.

As far as income there, the company does volume. It's a respectable chunk at that. Six figures (cause Jonny has said it prior multiple times). Nothing to sneeze over.  However margins are paper thin.  You sneeze and blow a hole in the financials.  Plenty of other negative contributors which draw things down more (guess: fraud, abuse, chargebacks, customers that have extorted the kid literally --- we've all seen it - free year of service, paid to go away, paid not to post...).

As I often say bottom of the balance sheet, what is that left over at most places?  9%?  Businesses are lean all over, this is just exceptionally so.

 

[William]

10% is already a fairly high margin.

 

[zed]

..asking for donations is a survival instinct when you have a family to keep and panic about your ability to provide for them.

It's just a bizarre new world and I'm a dinosaur, I had no idea this was a common thing.

 

[Lee]

It's just a bizarre new world and I'm a dinosaur, I had no idea this was a common thing.

And getting more common all the time.  Most often set up by someone to help another, but you don't get if you don't ask!

 

[drmike]

It's just a bizarre new world and I'm a dinosaur, I had no idea this was a common thing.

Super common.  I found a fundraising donation site this weekend purely by accident.  Very nice, very official.  Some legit stuff... a good bit of I can't believe people are asking for this for that.  Some shameless folks out there.  But other people, modest folks who suffer and we all don't know.  I feel for those folks. Something about pride that is appealing and so destructive at times.

I am big on giving in real life.  In the local community where you see the direct impact.   The whole extended family concept.

 

[AnthonySmith]

10% is high? I would rather just go back and work at HP tech support than have the hassle of running everything for 10%.... 

 

[AnthonySmith]

Well he did mention on LET I do believe that the acquisition was 'less than the cost of groceries each month' (or something)... so that could mean anywhere between $0 - and say... $2,000. 

I have been to murica as a none tourist.... I had to live there for a while in Florida, I don't see how it is possible to spend even close to 2k on groceries in a month, $500 for a small family seems excessive tbh, but for all I know Duke has 11.5 kids. or maybe he meant a months grocery shopping for the entire population of Guam. 

 

[drmike]

I have been to murica as a none tourist.... I had to live there for a while in Florida, I don't see how it is possible to spend even close to 2k on groceries in a month, $500 for a small family seems excessive tbh, but for all I know Duke has 11.5 kids. or maybe he meant a months grocery shopping for the entire population of Guam. 

Groceries are cheap in 'Merica compared to rest of work (lower percentage of household income on groceries and eating out than probably any industrialized nation).  However, that's eating a really bad non-food filler diet.  You eat good, right, what would be more acceptable abroad, it gets pricey.

I have 4 people in my household.   We spend $1k a month no problem on groceries.  On top of that is dining out (don't do much these days) and some delivery (when really busy and working through dinner).

I don't think Duke has 11 kids, but he likes to practicing for that goal.   Kids are just very expensive to raise, a few hundred thousand dollars US.  Been there done it, doing it again.

 

[AnthonySmith]

I am vegan so I only eat actual food as opposed to processed crap or antibiotic filled slabs or rotting corpse (talking main meals here), I snack like everyone else.

Food in the UK is around 50% more expensive in general I would estimate, there are 16 legs (12 belong to dogs) in this household now and its not even close to that mark price wise.

I dont understand it but fair enough I think 1k is probably a fair high number.

 

[drmike]

No kidding vegan? You have my respect.  I spent ~3 years as a vegan in the 1990's.  Tough diet then (bad local markets and lack of international foods - was easier one of those years living in Southern US in sunny place and more progressive mindset). 

 

I've been vegetarian for 25+ years at this point.

 

Vegetarian diet here in the States along with GMO free and ideally regional eating is really expensive.  We're frugal and at $1k a month.  If I had a Whole Foods or co-op market nearby, could spend $2-3k a month no doubt, especially where buying premade veggie / vegan foods.  The clean food options / non GMO / vegetarian / vegan are meh, probably 3-5x  more on average.

 

This is why come spring I go gardening crazy and support local farm markets. Looking forward to that this year; brutal winter.

 

[AnthonySmith]

Yep have been for a long time, it was much harder in the 90's than it is now though, I pretty much make everything myself these days though.

 

[Jasson.Pass]

Well we sure drifted into a farming topic which is kinda ontopic next to a server farm.

 

[tonyg]

All this donation talk is silly.

It's not like he made out with $10K, $20K or more.

The dude got helped out with some money to try and subdue the never ending bills of his family.

If my bills are any indication, the money from the donations probably helped out for about a month...period.

Personally if feel as if some of the rhetoric is founded on jealousy.

 

[Licensecart]

All this donation talk is silly.

It's not like he made out with $10K, $20K or more.

The dude got helped out with some money to try and subdue the never ending bills of his family.

If my bills are any indication, the money from the donations probably helped out for about a month...period.

Personally if feel as if some of the rhetoric is founded on jealousy.

Not really. I could open a donation page to get capital, all you need is a story if someone can own a company, and afford to buy one, why do they need a donation page.... is it a real donation page or just a scam. Even if someone scammed the government or someone $100 that's still a scam, doesn't matter if it's $100 or 100K.

 

[tonyg]

Not really. I could open a donation page to get capital, all you need is a story if someone can own a company, and afford to buy one, why do they need a donation page.... is it a real donation page or just a scam. Even if someone scammed the government or someone $100 that's still a scam, doesn't matter if it's $100 or 100K.

Dude, what on earth are you talking about?

 

[XFS_Duke]

@tonyg, you know how these communities are... If they do something good, they have to shit on it one way or another.

@Licensecart, let me make one thing very clear to you and to every other person on here that keeps going on about the donation page... I have 3 kids and a wife I have to provide for. One way or another they have to be taken care of. My bills averaged around $195,000 now and still adding up because of PT, however, my full time job is taking care of that. I am still unable to walk on my own after 8 months. Obviously you and the rest of the assclowns that see this as having anything to do with this acquisition, you must forget very easily that this isn't the first company I've taken over or the first client/server list that I've taken over. What I do see here is a bunch of jealous people like the ones that decided to go running their mouths to others that I do business with to try and throw a monkey wrench in the plans. Well guess what, it isn't happening. Every single one of you that keep harping on the wreck will need help one day, I hope you do not need it but you may, I hope that everyone can see it and help you so that you can understand what I felt when these people donated to me. I appreciated it and if you didn't understand this, I didn't make the thread post. I made the GoFundMe link because I couldn't get help to get myself back on my feet. You have to understand that I was fresh out the hospital, facing the possibility of never walking or working again, the possibility of losing my leg or losing use of it due to nerve damage. All of this while I have a growing business and a family. Think about it and stop being a dick. I'm so tired of this shit already.

And one more thing Licensecart, if you believe my donation page was a scam, I want to know why the hell I have this long as scar on my leg and the massive debt that I had? Answer me that? You sit there and throw around these words and you have no fucking clue of anything that happened or is currently happening. You just sit there spewing shit out of your mouth instead of actually thinking. I've been very open with everyone about everything lately including the wreck. I don't lie to people and have no need to. However, this constant bullshit that is getting thrown around these forums acting like I scammed people or used the donations for this or any other business move, really make me rethink why I even registered here. I'm not like you guys. I'm a helpful person who tries to help people when I can. @Licensecart, if you don't want to help people, fine, you don't have any obligation to help anyone. None of you have any obligation to help anyone, but we as a people do it because we understand that if something happens to us, we would like help as well.

This isn't something that should keep getting thrown around like it is. I'm really trying to be as nice as possible and do things right. But these threads just keep getting stupid with a bunch of speculation and the fact of the matter is that you guys are so clueless it's unreal. To make this perfectly clear, if this doesn't concern you financially or physically, why do you guys keep commenting and talking crap about this deal? You have nothing to gain from this but respect to lose. I respect everyone here, you all know that and I've been trying to become a bigger part of this community, but this stupid crap really pushes people away. Disrespecting and spreading false accusations about anything related to me just makes you look like a moron, or like @tonyg said, "Personally if feel as if some of the rhetoric is founded on jealousy." I know one company who is already. They offered all kinds of things to pick up the clients just so they could tell CC to fuck off... 

As most of you who don't really know me, I don't take crap from anyone and run as clean of a business as possible. My clients that I have with XFuse now never complain and never have issues. I resolve everything as quickly as possible and make sure things are running when they need to be. I hate spam and eliminate it as quickly as possible. You could ask any DC that I have servers in and they'd tell you.

Some of you here need a wake up call. Stop worrying about things that don't concern you. Let me make mistakes if they're to be made. You have no dog in this fight.

 

[Licensecart]

So you can afford to buy a company but need help, if it was just you needing help and keeping what you had fair enough but you don't see others going ok so I need help to get back on my feet, and then... Boom ok I will buy this company because hey I need more money to pay bills... You can call me a asshole all you want but in the real world people don't get help and then buy another company. What do you expect to happen... 
 

He was collecting for the needy but didn't go to the needy: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-29205418

Doesn't matter how much he raised or got he was found out in the end... Oh look someone needs help and boom starts a company.

 

[Stack]

I'm not sure how his personal finances have anything to do with his purchase of GreenValueHost INC.