WebHostingTalk Worst of the Hosting Industry

[HN-Matt]

I remember making a thread about a promotional video for Host Nun in WHT's Other Reviews subforum because I wanted people to... uh... review it. Presumably the forum was there for reviews? The thread was deleted within a couple days and the mods tried to get in a heated argument with me about how it didn't belong there because it was 'just an advertisement' or something. Think I got some warning points on my account for it. Place is truly awful beyond belief.

 

[Dillybob]

I remember making a thread about a promotional video for Host Nun in WHT's Other Reviews subforum because I wanted people to... uh... review it. Presumably the forum was there for reviews? The thread was deleted within a couple days and the mods tried to get in a heated argument with me about how it didn't belong there because it was 'just an advertisement' or something. Think I got some warning points on my account for it. Place is truly awful beyond belief.

Fiver gigs are fucking horrible and unprofessional for any company. Doing a fiverr gig basically means you're valuing your company at $5.00.  Not sure but I would side on WHT if they deleted threads like that.

Although, I found that video hilarious and awesome LOL.

 

[HN-Matt]

BEEP BOOP VALUE OF COMPANY PRECISELY ISOMORPHIC TO PRICE OF FIVERR JOKE VIDEO

 

[HN-Matt]

Not sure but I would side on WHT if they deleted threads like that.

Why?

 

[drmike]

I don't want to derail, but.... Any marketplace, including Fiverr is going to have lots of garbage.   It's like the lowendjobs to fill hopelessness mostly...  Lots of sketch.... Lots of I will do anything for what? < $4 all said.  It's still a place to find some workers.  But don't expect to pay $5 on the new improved Fiverr-Fifty with that surcharge  Good folks these days are addons to get anything done..

Back to punting WHT....

 

[HN-Matt]

Blah Blah Fiverr-Fifty-Five-Hundred-Five-Thousand-Million-And-Five

Completely beside the point.

 

[HN-Matt]

Back to punting WHT....

Not much else to say. I think "I would side on WHT if they deleted threads like that" about sums it up for me.

 

[Dillybob]

Not much else to say. I think "I would side on WHT if they deleted threads like that" about sums it up for me.

No disrespect towards your company it's just I don't like fiverr either. (Eve worse than WHT). Fiverr is a marketing brothel that scams thousands every day.  

Back on point to WHT though: 

WHT's HostingFraud is coming July 27th:

'Hear directly from the industry's best and finest'. 

No one will learn anything new at this place, if anything you'll learn more watching fucking shark tank. The whole thing is a fraud and it's just stupid. Anyone who attends it, please record an 'activity' of you sitting down listening to the 'BEST OF the hosting industry speakers' and post back here.

I guarantee you it will be full of a bunch of old dementia bound geezers spewing their horseshit pedagogy.

Edit: Go to 1:07

'Meet business partners in a fun and educational environment', then right after it shows someone handing over a wine glass.. What an absolute joke.  I'm sure you learn more when you're buzzed right? And drinking wine is definitely an educational atmosphere. The whole thing is just bonkers.

 

[Tyler]

Edit: Go to 1:07

'Meet business partners in a fun and educational environment', then right after it shows someone handing over a wine glass.. What an absolute joke.  I'm sure you learn more when you're buzzed right? And drinking wine is definitely an educational atmosphere. The whole thing is just bonkers.

Go to 1:18 and see the magical fire

Likely he is teaching sacrificial techniques to appease the gods of uptime. 

 

[drmike]

I guarantee you it will be full of a bunch of old dementia bound geezers spewing their horseshit pedagogy.

I laughed at this.   Video started out quite true to that.

Trade shows are well, problematic.   I did that circuit a while back in other industries.   They tend to be very expensive for everyone.  Convention centers where most of these happen are in big cities and union operated.  You pay outlandish amounts for lazy guys to move your stuff when you were capable - house rules - and do so like tomorrow when they get to it.  Simple stuff like having coffee at your booth for people working the booth becomes nothing short of robbery.  I remember arguing about a gallon of coffee and how I couldn't bring it in from [name that chain] into the convention center.... Which I did any damn way.  Not like I am paying $100+ for cheap convention hall coffee.

Most folks use conventions as sophisticated vacations.  Justifying downtime before and after the event for their own personal.   Often scheduling vacation / off days around the actual event.  It's a biz deduction and lucrative for personal tax liability.

ROI is achievable at conventions, but you can't be a general consumer company at a show like this or won't happen.  These shows mainly are B2B in nature.  Sales team should be cutting deals and conventions like this are strange marketing + sales mashup in focus, wrong angle usually.  It's a place where some find vendors, few find true partner deals.   Hardware companies probably can find customers at such - one of the few right fits for such a show.  

 

[Dillybob]

I laughed at this.   Video started out quite true to that.

Trade shows are well, problematic.   I did that circuit a while back in other industries.   They tend to be very expensive for everyone.  Convention centers where most of these happen are in big cities and union operated.  You pay outlandish amounts for lazy guys to move your stuff when you were capable - house rules - and do so like tomorrow when they get to it.  Simple stuff like having coffee at your booth for people working the booth becomes nothing short of robbery.  I remember arguing about a gallon of coffee and how I couldn't bring it in from [name that chain] into the convention center.... Which I did any damn way.  Not like I am paying $100+ for cheap convention hall coffee.

Most folks use conventions as sophisticated vacations.  Justifying downtime before and after the event for their own personal.   Often scheduling vacation / off days around the actual event.  It's a biz deduction and lucrative for personal tax liability.

ROI is achievable at conventions, but you can't be a general consumer company at a show like this or won't happen.  These shows mainly are B2B in nature.  Sales team should be cutting deals and conventions like this are strange marketing + sales mashup in focus, wrong angle usually.  It's a place where some find vendors, few find true partner deals.   Hardware companies probably can find customers at such - one of the few right fits for such a show.  

Agreed. I'd honestly rather attend a VPSboardCon or LETCon for 50 or $100 and get to see the top providers (BuyVM, RamNode, etc) instead. I think that would be much more valuable.

I'm creating a video about hostingcon and will post it soon.

 

[Hxxx]

Agreed. I'd honestly rather attend a VPSboardCon or LETCon for 50 or $100 and get to see the top providers (BuyVM, RamNode, etc) instead. I think that would be much more valuable.

I'm creating a video about hostingcon and will post it soon.

Drama. I don' t see people opening threads and complaining about vpsboard in wht, then why this community need to have conversations that depends on other communities or about other communities? 

Dillybob how about a post about a vps or a tutorial? How about a question in relation to this forum?

 

[host4go]

Drama. I don' t see people opening threads and complaining about vpsboard in wht, then why this community need to have conversations that depends on other communities or about other communities? 

Dillybob how about a post about a vps or a tutorial? How about a question in relation to this forum?

And now.. whos being the drama queen?

 

[Dillybob]

Drama. I don' t see people opening threads and complaining about vpsboard in wht, then why this community need to have conversations that depends on other communities or about other communities? 

Dillybob how about a post about a vps or a tutorial? How about a question in relation to this forum?

If I were to create a tutorial on how to use a VPS it would be me showing a simple shell script with apt-get's lol and installing the basic webserver  stack.

 

[Hxxx]

If I were to create a tutorial on how to use a VPS it would be me showing a simple shell script with apt-get's lol and installing the basic webserver  stack.

That or keep being drmike 2.0 and filling the forums with useless non sense.

 

[Dillybob]

Alrighty, for everyone who has seen my WebHostingTalk worst of the hosting industry video know that I rambled a lot towards the end. This time, I got to the point and want to explain how HostingCon is actually a violation of our human rights. 

 

My first contention would be that they are under no obligation to dictate what 'age' we must be to attend a conference or talk to other hosting providers. We should beable to learn about the web hosting industry at any age. Whether this would be attending conferences or talking to providers face to face.

 

 

My second contention would be they are contradicting themselves by allowing 'alcohol' be used with the word education, that doesn't make sense and whenever there is alcohol / wine involved, makes it a NON-education learning environment. You can see this in their 2014 promo video here at 1:06.

 

And the third part starts at around 3:30  shows several red flags of their hostingcon full conference benefits chart.

 

 

[MartinD]

If I were to create a tutorial on how to use a VPS it would be me showing a simple shell script with apt-get's lol and installing the basic webserver stack.

Maybe that's exactly what you should do. Not everyone knows how to do that.

 

[Dillybob]

Maybe that's exactly what you should do. Not everyone knows how to do that.

Why did you delete my topic?

 

[MartinD]

I didn't, it's hidden and I contacted you about it in private.

 

[Hxxx]

Alrighty, for everyone who has seen my WebHostingTalk worst of the hosting industry video know that I rambled a lot towards the end. This time, I got to the point and want to explain how HostingCon is actually a violation of our human rights. 

 

My first contention would be that they are under no obligation to dictate what 'age' we must be to attend a conference or talk to other hosting providers. We should beable to learn about the web hosting industry at any age. Whether this would be attending conferences or talking to providers face to face.

 

 

My second contention would be they are contradicting themselves by allowing 'alcohol' be used with the word education, that doesn't make sense and whenever there is alcohol / wine involved, makes it a NON-education learning environment. You can see this in their 2014 promo video here at 1:06.

 

And the third part starts at around 3:30  shows several red flags of their hostingcon full conference benefits chart.

 

Ok i understand, you don't know what you are talking. Great to let us know.