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Are these guys legitimate?

markjcc

New Member
Hey VPSBoard, Quick topic...

Has anyone tried some SEO service from a company called "Web Listings Inc"

I haven't subscribed to a mailing-list or anything in between those lines.

Reason is, I've gotten an offer in the mail

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Did a quick search and found a few complaints on BBB, However alot of them seem to be closed
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I see Niagra Falls... That is on my radar.....  

Maybe I should go dig this PoS company?
 

TruvisT

Server Management Specialist
Verified Provider
When you register your business you start to get a lot of mail from companies asking you to sign up or switch over to them. Some will actually word their content to where they make it sound like you owe them money. Part of running a legit business.

Oh, just today I got a call from some Indian company wanting to offer web services. Why I let my calls go to vmail if I don't know the number so I can scan them and see who i need to call back.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Has anyone tried some SEO service from a company called "Web Listings Inc"
If you do a search  on Web Listings Inc you'll find a bunch of campaign finance reports.   There are apparently a lot of morons running for public office who fall for Web Listings Inc crap and pay for their SEO services. :p

Here's one who fell for it. A clown running for judge in Pennsylvania:

https://www.campaignfinanceonline.state.pa.us/Pages/ShowReport.aspx?ReportID=123636&isStatement=0&is24Hour=False
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Paging Chris Ouellette, the Vice President and scammer in charge of Web Listings Inc.

He was operating as:

On Line Yellow Pages Inc.
440 Fair Drive, Suite W
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Phone: (800) 809-1777

That address may not be current.

On Line Yellow Pages seems to not just be running this SEO listing scam.

http://www.orangecountyda.com/templates/printer_version.asp?type=news&page=8&recordid=1415

Orange County District Attorney
Press Release

ONLINE ADVERTISING COMPANY TO PAY $142,500 AND VICTIM RESTITUTION FOR DEFRAUDING CONSUMERS IN SOLICITATION CHECK SCHEME



SANTA ANA – The Orange County District Attorney (OCDA) obtained a settlement Wednesday, July 29, 2009, against an online advertising company, On-Line Yellow Pages, Inc. (OLYPI), ordering them to pay $142,500 for defrauding consumers in a “solicitation check” scheme. OLYPI is also required to pay restitution to any consumer with a legitimate refund request.



In October 2008, the OCDA began investigating OLYPI after receiving several Orange County consumer complaints and corroborating information from Alaska’s Attorney General Office (AAG) that the Orange County based business was engaging in misleading and unfair business practices in a “solicitation check” scheme. A “solicitation check” scheme is where customers are mailed checks for small amounts and mislead into thinking the check is simply a rebate from a company they already did business with. If the nominal check is cashed or deposited, however, the endorser or payee identified on the check is obligated to pay for the goods or services, as indicated in fine print on the back of the check.



OLYPI mailed checks amounting to approximately $3.50 to businesses, schools, and non-profit organizations throughout the country marked “rebate enclosed.” When a consumer cashed the check, OLYPI billed them $29.95 each month for “advertising.” OLYPI would automatically add the monthly charge to the consumer’s phone bill or withdraw the amount from the consumer’s bank account after the check was cashed.



As part of the settlement, OLYPI will pay $142,500 in civil penalties. The order prohibits OLYPI from sending any type of “solicitation checks” to any state in the country from Orange County. OLYPI must also mail a letter offering a 2-month refund for services charged to every consumer that received and cashed a solicitation check and paid for services for which they did not intend to sign up. They are required to pay restitution to consumers who return the form enclosed in OLYPI’s letter or file complaints directly to the OCDA within 60 days of the signed judgment between July 29, 2009, and September 27, 2009.



OLYPI had been previously investigated for a similar scheme by the Oregon Attorney General’s Office (OAG) and reached a settlement with OAG. The OCDA and AAG jointly investigated and concurrently filed injunctions against OLYPI in Orange County and Alaska. Of the $142,500 settlement, $30,000 will go to AAGO to cover civil penalties and costs of the investigation.

Appears their company incorporation is FORFEITED in California:


ON-LINE YELLOW PAGES, INC.
Company Number
C2646490
Status
Forfeited
Incorporation Date
12 April 2004 (over 10 years ago)
Jurisdiction
California (US)
Branch
Branch of Delaware (US) company
Registered Address
440 FAIR DR, COSTA MESA, CA 92626
United States

They are a branch of Delaware company though...

And you can see other scams they were running on folks claiming companies had debts owed:

http://www.businessconsumeralliance.org/complaints/on-line-yellow-pages-inc-13103765
 

markjcc

New Member
Very interesting information, Well...

That letter is in the trash right now, Hopefully I won't be getting anymore anytime soon.
 

SPINIKR-RO

New Member
Verified Provider
If you do a search  on Web Listings Inc you'll find a bunch of campaign finance reports.   There are apparently a lot of morons running for public office who fall for Web Listings Inc crap and pay for their SEO services. :p

Here's one who fell for it. A clown running for judge in Pennsylvania:

https://www.campaignfinanceonline.state.pa.us/Pages/ShowReport.aspx?ReportID=123636&isStatement=0&is24Hour=False

Funny, I saw their address listed in multiple state finance reports..

Idiot politicians are sending these asshats money for fake SEO. Bahahaha!

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=1623+military+rd+%23926+campaign
Nice find, quite humorous. 

Though if you think about it, what are the chances of you billing any sort of large organization via snail mail and their low level invoice taker just pays it?

Or a political office where becky from down the old highway is helping judge john with his political campaign. Getting a bill for some low amount to something she doesn't understand seems like it would be quick to get stamped as paid.

Would make for a interesting experiment.

I was scammed once, paid 250 to some scumbag business. Around the time my companies AR was due I got a letterhead envelope from the state, envelope and papers had the state seal and the address was to a building in the state capitol. Ended up being some shady operation.

I didn't think twice about it until the state called and warned of the issue for not filing. I just had so much stuff to do around that time I didn't pay attention.
 
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Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Though if you think about it, what are the chances of you billing any sort of large organization via snail mail and their low level invoice taker just pays it?

Would make for a interesting experiment.
Worked for me.  Coke didn't want to pay me proper holiday pay one year when I was called in on Christmas.  Okay, fine - I sent the corporate office an invoice w/ PO from my little side company for the difference.  And they paid it within a week.

HR's still pissed at me for that one - but nothing they can do about it now.
 

SPINIKR-RO

New Member
Verified Provider
Worked for me.  Coke didn't want to pay me proper holiday pay one year when I was called in on Christmas.  Okay, fine - I sent the corporate office an invoice w/ PO from my little side company for the difference.  And they paid it within a week.

HR's still pissed at me for that one - but nothing they can do about it now.
OK that's amazing.How did they find out, Audit or something?
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Man... I wonder if you're ever going to get fired from Coca-Cola
HR's tried a couple of times... but I've made a few friends in high places, and it would take too many people to replace me.  I practically have tenure so long as I don't go overboard with my antics.
 
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