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Feedback on prices for backups/snapshots

rupe

New Member
Just to clarify, would a snapshots only have a "life expectancy" of two (2) weeks maximum? Or would they be like the AWS/Digital Ocean Snapshots, where they would be available until deleted by the user. If it is the latter, I assume there would be a limit on the amount of snapshots/snapshot size one could have before having to either pay more, or delete old snapshots?

I agree with the rest, that 15% is very reasonable :)
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
snapshots last the life of the VPS.

We'll be deduping the space so assuming you aren't keeping snapshots of 100% different data every time the cost of it shouldn't be very high for us.

Francisco
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
I'm just working out all the details right now as well as how to integrate parts of it :)

We had some design issues with OpenVZ but I think Anthony & I have come up with a positive solution.

Francisco
 

rupe

New Member
While I've got your attention :) , I have an off-topic suggestion/wish feature for your Stallion Control Panel. If you could add a status indicator (online/offline) to the Dashboard's Virtual Servers list.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
While I've got your attention :) , I have an off-topic suggestion/wish feature for your Stallion Control Panel. If you could add a status indicator (online/offline) to the Dashboard's Virtual Servers list.
It's in the works :p

The_Hatta asked for that awhile back, I've just not had a chance to test it.

Francisco
 

clarity

Active Member
This is why I love BuyVM! You guys never except the status quo, and it is great for the customers. I am really looking forwarded to the SSD based plans, and the other secrets that I am sure are in the works.
 

wolfpackmars2

New Member
I'm not really interested in backups, mainly because my VPS is a storage VPS that I use as a backup server anyways.  Since "I'm not interested in backups" was an option on the questionnaire that's how I responded.  I would hate for you to go into this expecting X number of customers and you only get 0.5X real customers.  However, I think 20% would be fair for those who do use the service (which someday I may).  I bounced around between 15 and 20%.  At 20% you realize that's 1/5th of the cost of getting a whole VPS.  Or you could get a storage VPS and maintain your own backups.  buuuuuttttttt....  there is something to be said for the convenience of automated snapshots.  Plus, this could be a sort of simple way to set up a "base" image and rolling it out to multiple servers easily, which is worth it's weight in gold.

Also, what's so special about SSD?  In a shared VPS environment, I would think the bottlenecks would be system load and network bandwidth before HDD speed would ever play a factor?  Maybe for some really heavy database servers, SSD could be useful?  Do people feel they're not "cool" unless they have an SSD, or is there real value with having a Solid State Drive?

EDIT:  Just as I post this, dclardy says he is "really looking forward to the SSD based plans".  I should point out, I'm not a "real" sysadmin, just a hobbyist - so don't be too harsh on me.  Obviously some people find value in SSD, and I'm not saying I don't think it's valuable - I'm just naive and don't know what the value is.
 
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Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Snapshots would allow the base image idea you have :) Once billing 2 rolls out we'll likely allow 'snapshots only' support and bill it by the GB.

With boxes getting to 24+ cores the disk becomes an issue. A single user can burn at max the cores they're allocated but a really really really poorly indexed database/etc can tank a whole node if the database gets wrecked enough. We can throw a lot of SSD caching at everything but at some point we may as well just do pure SSD nodes.

Francisco
 

clarity

Active Member
EDIT:  Just as I post this, dclardy says he is "really looking forward to the SSD based plans".  I should point out, I'm not a "real" sysadmin, just a hobbyist - so don't be too harsh on me.  Obviously some people find value in SSD, and I'm not saying I don't think it's valuable - I'm just naive and don't know what the value is.
I like the slight performance boost without needing so much disk space.


For the backups, I can get rid of my backup vps and save some cash. I might trust BuyVM a little too much, but they are good people.
 

wolfpackmars2

New Member
Thanks Francisco - makes perfect sense.  I wasn't thinking outside my own VPS.  Servers are essentially split up according to CPU and RAM, but I've not seen anything mentioned about limiting HDD reads/writes.  It's understandable that a potential problem with an unrelated user's vps could affect others, when large amounts of data are involved.

My use is fairly light as far as system resources.  I use another provider for private websites, and I use my BuyVM Storage server for private backups, so nothing critical.  However, if I ever did build a public facing web service, resources and speed would be critical.  I've submitted my questionnaire based on what I would be interested in right this minute.  Just because I'm not interested in either feature right this minute, I do believe that what you are suggesting is a great value.

Thanks - and I am very happy with my storage vps :)
 

wolfpackmars2

New Member
Snapshots would allow the base image idea you have :) Once billing 2 rolls out we'll likely allow 'snapshots only' support and bill it by the GB.
A base image should easily be doable within 1GB.  If using something like SaltStack (or Chef or Puppet), then all you need is a base image set up as a Salt Minion.  You could blow servers away all day long and get them back up with little effort.

Not that I'm suggesting anyone should make a sport of "blowing servers away" :)
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
A base image should easily be doable within 1GB.  If using something like SaltStack (or Chef or Puppet), then all you need is a base image set up as a Salt Minion.  You could blow servers away all day long and get them back up with little effort.

Not that I'm suggesting anyone should make a sport of "blowing servers away" :)
It depends.

If someone packs up a custom Windows 2008/2012, that'll take up 10GB :eek:

Francisco
 
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