Fraud Fail
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wlanboy
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Maybe that IS the user's name. Mr. Fake (no, wasn't serious)
Normally when people send in false documents, i respond with "Try harder" and list the reasons why it was rejected. If i found an exact copy of it posted on some stock photo website i send a link as the only response.
I don't ever get a response after that.
I don't ever get a response after that.
I'm betting the majority of people here use MaxMind.
The maxmind phone thing is easily duped if you use a skype-in number.
I got a buddy that many moons ago sold a rented burstnet dedicated server to some fellow in Brazil for $1500/y. I had mentioned to him that Brazil was packed full of fraud but he replied "They passed the maxmind phone verification so that'll be ok".
Month later, the server gets charged back and was abused out the ass for spam so burstnet was less than thrilled. Said friend phones the number up to find out wtf was up only to find that the number didn't work anymore and was from skype/another VOIP provider.
My buddy got shafted and the $1500 + the money he had paid into burst (which he claims was at least $1000 since he pre-paid it).
Moral of the story? Be sure to glance over orders yourself before your provision. There's lots of things that maxmind lets slide simply because their database is still growing.
Be careful of users submitting passports as well. It's too easy to buy forged passports for cheap. Hostgator ran a blog article last year I think where they showed off their favorite fraud passports.
Francisco
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Relying on nothing but automated systems to tell you that it's fraudulent is a recipe for trouble and burnt wallets.
The worst was a few I had seen years back where a kid hijacks the mother/father's credit card, and it rolls for a few months until the parents notice the bill. Then they try to charge back the entire few months worth of the order. The worst with those situations is they sit in dispute for ages, and they can still go either way depending on how the credit card processor wants to act.
Nothing replaces vigilance.
The worst was a few I had seen years back where a kid hijacks the mother/father's credit card, and it rolls for a few months until the parents notice the bill. Then they try to charge back the entire few months worth of the order. The worst with those situations is they sit in dispute for ages, and they can still go either way depending on how the credit card processor wants to act.
Nothing replaces vigilance.
Hah, that used to happen to us all the time with those damn gameservers, didn't it?
Ya, there is no substitute to a manual verification, but even then, what stops someone from trying to charge back? It's part of the cost of doing business I'm afraid. We do manual checks on any custom Dedicated orders we receive, but for VPS and Shared, we generally let MaxMind takeover. Plus we have high standards set into MaxMind to help out.
best ones are the ones with no evidence of watermarkings at all that a copier or scanner will always pick up some peice of it. Always have to check with the official sites about these ID's and make sure what markings they should have.
Swear bouncers have it easier lol
Swear bouncers have it easier lol
This happens way too much to @Aldryic
We get countless people that come on IRC and wonder why their accounts were deleted.
Francisco
Is deleting a better option than closing? Always wondered.This happens way too much to @Aldryic
We get countless people that come on IRC and wonder why their accounts were deleted.
Francisco
