I agree it only works if there is trust between all parties. I only wish more hosting providers would realize that it is very much possible to coexist with one another considering the sheer size of the industry. If not only on a client reputation aspect but on an overall operations aspect. I remember back in when I was with Site5 and the whole wordpress hackathon was going on affecting numerous other CMS's as well. The true reason why were able to stop the problem and apply a permanent fix to the issue was with working with another hosting giant to put all of our linux experience together to track down the string of malicious code and enable a modsec rule to block the attacks. It just goes to show how important it is to trust one another in the hosting industry as providers.Harzem is welcome to lie to me, but I've seen the size of the DDOS attacks the site receives so it's not in his best interest if he wants our support. Heck, I don't care about the newsletters but he has to be straight with me so hopefully he is especially since this project only works if there's trust for all parties involved.