GreenValueHost is moving again.
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Hahaha sounds like John Biloh wrote that.... Typical salesmanship in stuff he writes. But he forgot to throw in the 75% LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT PROMO CRAZY! at the end.
"Tier-1 bandwidth" --- who are they f'n kidding with that? What even is the CC mix this quarter?
Plus they left out all their PCI compliances and other imaginary things.
This is good for customers though. Buffalo and Amsterdam are neighboring communities, next door neighbors. Nevermind the entire east side of New York and that tiny puddle of water called the Atlantic Ocean....
"Tier-1 bandwidth" --- who are they f'n kidding with that? What even is the CC mix this quarter?
Plus they left out all their PCI compliances and other imaginary things.
This is good for customers though. Buffalo and Amsterdam are neighboring communities, next door neighbors. Nevermind the entire east side of New York and that tiny puddle of water called the Atlantic Ocean....
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Answer: Never
Even if they did make them (which they don't), I don't see any daycare center purchases for 1TB Intel SSDs. I do however see some purchases for Samsung mz-7te1t0bw 1TB SSD drives
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I don't see any mention in the announcement that he will be giving pro-rata refunds to any customer who isn't happy with the migration. If you advertise a service with a specific feature (Amsterdam location) and aren't able to continue delivering what you advertised you owe the customer a pro-rated refund.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
There are other issues too...
Aren't there EU privacy and data laws protecting data out migration like this?
Plus I think AMS customers, some, were surcharged for services in AMS. Perhaps the base amount was more and I do recall IPs costing more. All of which would be refunds.
Lucky for customers, GVH actually does issue refunds. Unlike their other Colocrossing shell companies which do not.
Obvious issue with all of this is we see GVH going back to Colocrossing only again. When that happens, companies either close shop or fail, usually....
Aren't there EU privacy and data laws protecting data out migration like this?
Plus I think AMS customers, some, were surcharged for services in AMS. Perhaps the base amount was more and I do recall IPs costing more. All of which would be refunds.
Lucky for customers, GVH actually does issue refunds. Unlike their other Colocrossing shell companies which do not.
Obvious issue with all of this is we see GVH going back to Colocrossing only again. When that happens, companies either close shop or fail, usually....
Correct, after ignoring lots (= 10+) of abuse mails about phishing in the network (and after that multiple mails where i did withdraw the LOA and requested that the network is removed) - Phoenixnap ignored me as well - Their upstreams had to step in and set ACLs to prevent them from annoucing the network anymore. (which means i had to send my passport around the world to 20+ people/companies in a LOT of jurisdictions, seriously pisses me off).
The network, as of today, is still announced by PhoenixNAP and in use by GVH - I have no real way to force them to stop either, only on legal way (which is already in progress against both, as well as the defamation lawsuit against GVH and Jon).
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
William revoked IPs because GVH booted him from the 100TB plan they discontinued and then reported him to FraudRecord for being a bad customer. William said he was unaware of the subdelegation of the IPs to a reseller who then delegated them to GVH.
Now, that matter I am blah about.
It never made sense to me about the IP delegation and reseller in the middle. LOA paperwork has to be done and that's original owner of IPs + the customer using them + the datacenters doing announce(s). I am not clear on how someone gets delegated block and the owner is unaware of who is getting that block.
I bring this up because Alexander from HostUs is trying to tell the same story on LET about his IP sub delegation (after William yanked the IPs and GVH needed new ones) and being unaware of GVH as end company for a /24 block. I know Alexander is full of elephant shit about his IP issuance to GVH, contrary to the fiction that gets published on Lowendtalk.
Sort of. I did not know but assumed GVH used them (I'm not an idiot and keep track of who uses my IPs) and it was no real issue for me - Honestly i do rent to a bunch far more shady people than them, it's not an issue for me, the reseller/GVH was one of the least problematic ones abuse wise.
I cancelled the contract with my reseller after GVH cancelled my plan (and refunded me fully, should note that) - This had a 1 month notice which was imposed by me as my reseller had NO contract with me so i applied the default 1 month as outlined in my ToS (which are not public but of course available/provided to all my customers/resellers), i had any right to do this regardless of the cancellation reason (call it revenge, call it whatever, fact is i owned this IPs and my reseller had no contract and i did what i wanted to do).
Later (2-3 days later) multiple abuse reports started to flow in for phishing which were ignored when forwarded to both GVH and PhoenixNAP - Thus i, in accordance with my ToS and with information to my reseller/customer, issued an immediate LOA withdrawal to both GVH and PhoenixNAP which was ignored, for the rest see the post above.
My reseller requested a LOA on PhoenixNAP - I issued that. It did not name GVH in it at all. RIPE further works usually with route objects without LOA.
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What's even funnier about all of this is lil' Jonny advertised Amsterdam as a location just 5 days ago on WHT: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1447754&
Are you telling me that this decision was made within the last 5 days? Why the rush?
Didn't he do this once already? Offer Amsterdam, stop offering it, move everyone. Offer it again? (Sort of like his 100TB plans, shared/reseller, etc) What a joke.
Are you telling me that this decision was made within the last 5 days? Why the rush?
Didn't he do this once already? Offer Amsterdam, stop offering it, move everyone. Offer it again? (Sort of like his 100TB plans, shared/reseller, etc) What a joke.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
If I were to put a wager on it, my bet is that he managed to go far enough into debt to Biloh that he was either given the option of pay up immediately, or move everything he had to CC. A sound move on Biloh's part - even if CC didn't want to absorb the services little Johnny Witless sold at ridiculous cost loss, Biloh now has him completely by the balls and GVH can't even do a runner/migration to avoid the debt. Puts everyones least favourite Suicide Girl in the position of `pay your bills, or lose it all`.
If my hunch on that is right, then we may be (thankfully) finally approaching the end game on these kids. Another couple months of drama, then we'll never have to hear of them again.
If my hunch on that is right, then we may be (thankfully) finally approaching the end game on these kids. Another couple months of drama, then we'll never have to hear of them again.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
GVH issues refunds after the customer opens a thread on WHT/LET to complain about GVH refusing to issue a refund (the last such thread was a few days ago: Jonny refused to give a refund and told the customer they would lose if they filed a PayPal dispute because it was an intangible item).
GreenValueHost operates the same sleazebag way that ChicagoVPS does by abusing PayPal's intangible items policy. The only difference between them is Jonny will bend like a little momma's boy under public pressure. Otherwise not much difference (especially when you consider that both giants of the hosting industry have/have had CEOs who did double duty as retail clerks by day, CEO by night)
Isn't that basically what happened with the non-CC US locations a few months ago? GVH ran up a
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Hxxx
Active Member
PayPal need to cover intangible items like they did in UK: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1383852
Priceless... Suicide Girl .LOL that was great.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Maybe his monthly invoice is due
Poor PhoenixNAP, I wonder if they realize they sold to a minor?
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Technically they sold to a corporation.
Did GVH go back to PhoenixNAP in Amsterdam or did the move to Singlehop never happen? Last April Jonny posted on LET they were switching from PhoenixNAP to Singlehop in Amsterdam...that was at the same time he announced a move to Quadranet in Dallas and LA (less than 3 months later the Quadranet nodes were migrated back to CC).
Edit: just noticed the "Oh shit, William pulled our IPs" announcement from the 17th:
Well, that's what you get when you mess about. You get pulled, though never heard of it before.
Good luck to 'em.
Good luck to 'em.
GIANT_CRAB
New Member
IIRC, this has something to do with William.
I'm unsure if he would allow me to disclose it but if he does, prepare your popcorn.
I'm unsure if he would allow me to disclose it but if he does, prepare your popcorn.
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