Amitz
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List of VPS/Dedi providers using Colo Crossing
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
What am I missing here. One whom is banned from one place trying to find another? Lol
One who is banned from a forum trying to find another isn't nearly as LOL as a host that posts an offer and doesn't even know what city its servers are in...now that is LOL!
NYC-->400 miles away-->Buffalo
mojeda
New Member
I have more posts than you, do I get a prize too?
Howdy folks!
Just saying keep everything civilized and friendly please!
I don't find making a list of providers who use CC an issue (hell do the same for Colo@, Incero, etc., it brings more transparency than anything), but if everyone just be excellent to each other then that'd be very appreciated! Please don't put me in a position where I have to come in and knock some heads around
Just saying keep everything civilized and friendly please!
I don't find making a list of providers who use CC an issue (hell do the same for Colo@, Incero, etc., it brings more transparency than anything), but if everyone just be excellent to each other then that'd be very appreciated! Please don't put me in a position where I have to come in and knock some heads around
Just got caught up and familar with the thread (sorry, been away/busy with the Holidays and what-not) and came here to say this.Howdy folks!
Just saying keep everything civilized and friendly please!
I don't find making a list of providers who use CC an issue (hell do the same for Colo@, Incero, etc., it brings more transparency than anything), but if everyone just be excellent to each other then that'd be very appreciated! Please don't put me in a position where I have to come in and knock some heads around
There are lots of providers who use CC that I think are decent. Don't turn this into another hate filled drama lama thread, please. B)
texteditor
Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
Scummy business practices aside, the fact that they can't manage IPv6 anywhere, even Choopa is enough to drive me away from them & providers using them for Colo/servers.
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Business practice in Buffalo suck. No arguing that. Very underhanded shadowy bunch of folks up there that are more into playing games than running a business. If they wanted folks like me to go away they'd:
1. Stop whoring LEB for their own advertising interests (i.e. companies that are customers or that they have "investment interest" in. How many CC associated companies did they run ads for in the holiday whore promo run? 9 offers and I count 6 companies who are CC customers in that. 66.6%. Hello Satan.
2. Stop silencing critics. They love banning folks and when they can't because it isn't under what they control, they bust out the corporate DMCA bitch forms. One of these days if they continue, there is going to be a mass ignore CC movement and the silence is going to kill their business.
3. Stop doing stupid things. Wiring money to accounts in a hurried fashion - to accounts of people known to work for / have office at CC from a company mixed up in fraud (i.e. operated under name of person uninvolved) --- yeah it's stupid and could end up in the legal courts.
Choopa/Reliable is a wonderful company and NJ location is simply awesome. One of the current best networks you can be on (see how long that continues though).
IPv6 is a BIG problems for ColoCrossing. As we've pointed out here in the past, they'd have to upgrade their circa 2003~ Cisco gear to newer stuff that is IPv6 enabled. They'd need to hire/pay consultant to implement the solution.
The bigger issue with IPv6 and CC is they have a business plan to accumulate IPV4 addresses and have done so in mass. Over 400k IPs in their possession and hardly using vast ranges. IPV4 they believe will be lucrative when the end comes. Allowing them to both sell to new customers who can't afford IPs elsewhere and as part of a flawed valuation for a merger/acquisition by other company who is rich in cash, but short on IPs.
Business practice in Buffalo suck. No arguing that. Very underhanded shadowy bunch of folks up there that are more into playing games than running a business. If they wanted folks like me to go away they'd:
1. Stop whoring LEB for their own advertising interests (i.e. companies that are customers or that they have "investment interest" in. How many CC associated companies did they run ads for in the holiday whore promo run? 9 offers and I count 6 companies who are CC customers in that. 66.6%. Hello Satan.
2. Stop silencing critics. They love banning folks and when they can't because it isn't under what they control, they bust out the corporate DMCA bitch forms. One of these days if they continue, there is going to be a mass ignore CC movement and the silence is going to kill their business.
3. Stop doing stupid things. Wiring money to accounts in a hurried fashion - to accounts of people known to work for / have office at CC from a company mixed up in fraud (i.e. operated under name of person uninvolved) --- yeah it's stupid and could end up in the legal courts.
Choopa/Reliable is a wonderful company and NJ location is simply awesome. One of the current best networks you can be on (see how long that continues though).
IPv6 is a BIG problems for ColoCrossing. As we've pointed out here in the past, they'd have to upgrade their circa 2003~ Cisco gear to newer stuff that is IPv6 enabled. They'd need to hire/pay consultant to implement the solution.
The bigger issue with IPv6 and CC is they have a business plan to accumulate IPV4 addresses and have done so in mass. Over 400k IPs in their possession and hardly using vast ranges. IPV4 they believe will be lucrative when the end comes. Allowing them to both sell to new customers who can't afford IPs elsewhere and as part of a flawed valuation for a merger/acquisition by other company who is rich in cash, but short on IPs.
I like this statement for a few reasons. Hopefully you are smart enough to know you are full of bullshit and you are just saying things to try and bad mouth the ColoCrossing name, if you are not smart enough to realize why it is physically impossible for ColoCrossing to still be using the Cisco 3550's like you are suggesting then everything you have ever said should be disregarded by the whole community.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
 
Let's play detective as usual. Are you working for CC this time or just keeping your office there? It's a matter of who is talking here, Chris the CC customer or Chris of ColoCrossing.
I am not smart at all as I don't have rack photos of all your installations. I highly recommend solid racks with no openings and several layers of locks. Be sure to have CC staff on site, and treat them right. No facility staff.. Definitely no contractors or employees who gets smacked around by HQ's and the den mother.
So you aren't using Cisco 3550's? Sure saw that in one of the facilities. Let me guess, it's really some bad ass gear disguised to distract people. You folks sure are mighty mad about those rack photos. The whole DMCA takedown dance is getting stupid.
People can't dismiss what I say because so much of it is right my friend. Not all of it of course, or what fun would there be?
Not using 3550's... yeah, tell you what, in most locations you aren't even using your own network but using whatever the facility has. For all I know you just have an ancient 24/48 port switch and that's it. Buffalo, yeah I know, you are testing some fancy gear. About time. Does that mean Gbit will be available among your own installs and IPV6 before the year 2020?
PS: Have you lads stopped the per packet round robin networking in BUF?
PPS: Why is Adam Ng DMCA'ing me about my profile pic? Kevin Hillstrand wants his photos and personality back.
Happy holidays Chris!
Let's play detective as usual. Are you working for CC this time or just keeping your office there? It's a matter of who is talking here, Chris the CC customer or Chris of ColoCrossing.
I am not smart at all as I don't have rack photos of all your installations. I highly recommend solid racks with no openings and several layers of locks. Be sure to have CC staff on site, and treat them right. No facility staff.. Definitely no contractors or employees who gets smacked around by HQ's and the den mother.
So you aren't using Cisco 3550's? Sure saw that in one of the facilities. Let me guess, it's really some bad ass gear disguised to distract people. You folks sure are mighty mad about those rack photos. The whole DMCA takedown dance is getting stupid.
People can't dismiss what I say because so much of it is right my friend. Not all of it of course, or what fun would there be?
Not using 3550's... yeah, tell you what, in most locations you aren't even using your own network but using whatever the facility has. For all I know you just have an ancient 24/48 port switch and that's it. Buffalo, yeah I know, you are testing some fancy gear. About time. Does that mean Gbit will be available among your own installs and IPV6 before the year 2020?
PS: Have you lads stopped the per packet round robin networking in BUF?
PPS: Why is Adam Ng DMCA'ing me about my profile pic? Kevin Hillstrand wants his photos and personality back.
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As part of some market research it's involved reading all threads here and over two years of threads at LET. Various reasons have been cited over time from network upgrades required, needing to implement it in the panel to problems with brocade software. If IPv6 was available in CC locations we'd at least see one provider with a manual allocation. This simply isn't the case. I've recently been speaking to some colo and dedi providers regarding services. Colocrossing was not on my list purely because of their IPv6 situation.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
I am all ears here...
Someone, anyone, please tell me why a colo/facility provider at this point wouldn't have any IPV6 natively available.... Any valid excuses? Other than banking on IPV4 riches and intending on cashing out and/or using old gear that doesn't support such and/or incompetence of ownership.
Someone, anyone, please tell me why a colo/facility provider at this point wouldn't have any IPV6 natively available.... Any valid excuses? Other than banking on IPV4 riches and intending on cashing out and/or using old gear that doesn't support such and/or incompetence of ownership.
There is none. This probably sets off alarm bells for any prospective clients as you automatically have to start thinking about the kind of gear a provider is running if they can't offer IPv6.
wlanboy
Content Contributer
Maybe they just don't want to do it because their target audience don't care about IPv6.
Their target market at the moment appears to be VPS/Cloud providers. Regardless of the merits or potential uses for IPv6 evidence shows that a large number of VPS clients will not sign up with a provider not offering IPv6.
I think their target market does care about IPv6. They may be able to forget those cares if offered a /20 of IPv4 to sweeten the bitter taste.
wlanboy
Content Contributer
Second that.
All my services are IPv6 ready. I would never buy anything (except dev boxes) without native IPv6.
But there are enough people left who want that dirty cheap 1 GB and don't care about IPv6.
darknessends
New Member
@Guys,
Trust me, lets build the list and the game will come clear. Real clear, Just lets make it.
Just push the name here and I ll keep adding them on top. Lets make it.
Trust me, lets build the list and the game will come clear. Real clear, Just lets make it.
Just push the name here and I ll keep adding them on top. Lets make it.
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Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Why not actually do some research on your own instead of expecting everyone else to do it for you? Perhaps if you'd take some initiative and made a list yourself, folks might take you more seriously.