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Need a new keyboard

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
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The one you picked looks really large and bulky. Hows it feel?
Large, but not too bulky. I already seem to be warming up to it.

One thing I have noticed is that I typed improperly previously... Like, if I got to type the letter 'B'... I used to use my right index finger and reach over to it. On this keyboard it is dead space where that finger goes and I look down and realize it's on the left hand side of the keyboard. Same with 'Y'... but I'd use my left index finger for that instead.

The palm pad is nice, better than resting my fingers on my metal desk tray.

I'll review in more detail when I have had more than 20 minutes on it. :)
 

SPINIKR-RO

New Member
Verified Provider
I remember having a old Microsoft keyboard in the ate nineties that was that butterfly but spread farther apart. I was one of the most annoying keyboards ever.
 

pcan

New Member
Part of it is hygiene... Pretty nasty what lurks in folks keyboards...
I wonder what's lurking in this one I saw today:

uJoi0E8.jpg

This is what happens when:

a- the user is male,

b- there is no office cleaning service,

c- the user never ever clean its desk, years after years,

d- the user's boss is male too, and does not care.

I have a few of these "greasy fingers" users. Remote assistence only!
 
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tonyg

New Member
^^ ah yes, I know them keyboards (although this might be the grimiest one I have seen yet!)

Let me guess, that has to be a warehouse or some kind of repair shop (auto mechanic, body shop, etc.)
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
I wonder what's lurking in this one I saw today:

uJoi0E8.jpg

This is what happens when:

a- the user is male,

b- there is no office cleaning service,

c- the user never ever clean its desk, years after years,

d- the user's boss is male too, and does not care.

I have a few of these "greasy fingers" users. Remote assistence only!
Oh god. That's awful.
 

pcan

New Member
Let me guess, that has to be a warehouse or some kind of repair shop (auto mechanic, body shop, etc.)
You guessed right, it's a warehouse. That place is nice and basically clean; the PC is definitely the dirtiest thing. It's strange. I promptly replace such a dirty keyboard if the user asks for it, but they seems to be totally at ease.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I once had to replace a keyboard because the user removed the keycaps to wash away (!) the dirt and, of course, some keys went dead (and some were misplaced).
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Looks like that warehouse has a good bit of particulate matter - namely carbon.

Would seem to be petrol/diesel waste... But could be from heating like coal or wood....

I thought it was from say an automotive garage myself :)
 

Coastercraze

Top Thrill
Verified Provider
Yeah, some of the keyboards at work are horrible with all sorts of crap on them. Some of it is the result of gloves which may have stuff on them such as sealer, grease, oils, etc. Thankfully there are touchscreens too, but I hate them sometimes.
 

Shados

Professional Snake Miner
I use a Filco Majestouch 2 .  Rock solid.
I have a tenkeyless no-legends one of those (with Cherry Blue switches) as my main keyboard currently. Also waiting on the current ErgoDox massdrop to finalize & ship; really, really looking forward to having a split-hand keyboard with mechanical keyswitches that is fully programmable. Plus, assembly will make for a fun day :3. And while I'm at it, here's my massdrop referral link: https://www.massdrop.com/r/WXVCQJ
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Also waiting on the current ErgoDox massdrop to finalize & ship;
"Sign up to see inside".  Nope, lost all interest right there >_<

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And that just ensured they will never get me to sign up.
 
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Shados

Professional Snake Miner
"Sign up to see inside".  Nope, lost all interest right there >_<

And that just ensured they will never get me to sign up.
Yes, the registration wall is something of a major uptake issue for them. It's also unfortunately not one they're going to be able to do much about (at least not unless they get really huge); a lot of manufacturers place legal restrictions in the form of a 'minimum advertised price' (MAP), and because most of their prices fall beneath this they are not legally able to advertise them to anyone not logged in. Amazon and other larger retailers also actually have this issue on some items (if you've ever had an Amazon item where you couldn't see the price until you added it to your cart, this is why), but as they're a shitton bigger they have more weight to negotiate with.

IANAL, but here's how I read those two clauses when I signed up:

  1. "We can verify/compare information you directly provide with information provided by third-parties (e.g. payment providers, facebook, etc.)"
  2. '<list of entities> under a common control' is essentially legalese for 'companies/etc. with the same ownership', and this kind of phrasing on sending email is pretty common. For the record, they do indeed send "daily deal" e-mails to you, but in the form of a monthly (or at least, I've only got one/month) update on new drops & current polls for new drops, which you can opt-out of from your profile/account settings. To be honest, I kind of wish they'd send me more emails vis a vis status updates on drop progress.
I would not have mentioned them if I thought they were likely to spam you / flog off your personal information / otherwise be dickheads >.>

That said, if you're not comfortable with it still (or just want a more hard-core build experience :D), then I'd like to point out that the ErgoDox is a completely open hardware/software project - the PCB design, case design, Teensy firmware, etc. can all be freely downloaded/modified/redistributed, so if you want you can get the PCB made yourself, get a case printed or build one of your own, buy a Teensy, find & buy Cherry MX switches & keycaps, get all the diodes, etc. and do it all more or less from scratch. This is more convenient though, and potentially a lot cheaper depending on what you have etc.
 
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Dylan

Active Member
Yes, the registration wall is something of a major uptake issue for them. It's also unfortunately not one they're going to be able to do much about (at least not unless they get really huge); a lot of manufacturers place legal restrictions in the form of a 'minimum advertised price' (MAP), and because most of their prices fall beneath this they are not legally able to advertise them to anyone not logged in. Amazon and other larger retailers also actually have this issue on some items (if you've ever had an Amazon item where you couldn't see the price until you added it to your cart, this is why), but as they're a shitton bigger they have more weight to negotiate with.
I worked for a retailer that had to follow MAPs and have to call BS on that. Amazon and other reputable retailers make you sign in (or depending on the manufacturer add the item to your cart) to see the price. Manufacturers accept that as complying with the MAP since it requires explicit consumer action. There is no legitimate reason to make you sign in to merely see the item. Massdrop's registration wall is a marketing choice, plain and simple (just like, say, Quora).

Want proof of that? Just add the query string "?mode=guest_open" to the end of any Massdrop URL, and voila, you can see everything (item and price) without signing up or in. Massdrop themselves no doubt know full well how consumer-unfriendly the registration wall is because they add that query to all links they share (i.e. advertise) on social media... probably so their posts don't get flooded with comments about how annoying having to sign up is!

For example: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox?mode=guest_open
 
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