OpenBSD & OpenSSH need your help

[Francisco]

Hello everyone!

The OpenBSD & OpenSSH teams are in dire need of donations.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138972987203440&w=2

It looks like they have a fairly costly power overhead, probably due to all the SUN/SPARC gear

I'll likely commit a few hundred a month donation to them and hopefully some other hosts around

here can help out as well.

Do note:

A number of logistical reasons

prevents us from moving the machines to another location which might

offer space/power for free, so let's not allow the conversation to go

that way.

So offering them colocation is off the menu entirely.

Francisco

 

[MartinD]

Maybe better equipment lol

 

[blergh]

I'd love to help, but 20k? That's insane.

 

[SkylarM]

20k in power and refusing to change anything to potentially lower overhead? I think we found the problem.

 

[Abydon]

20k in power and refusing to change anything to potentially lower overhead? I think we found the problem.

To be fair, it is possible there is legitimate reasons for this. They may not have enough qualified, volunteer labor to make the required changes or the like.

Also, this is from December/January.

They also need $150k/year total, not just $20k. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973477805026&w=2

http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/campaign2014.html

They have $146k.

 

[DomainBop]

So offering them colocation is off the menu entirely.


Francisco

Offering them colocation is out of the question but since frantech is a Canadian company they would be more than happy if you would put their electric bill on your company's books.

 We are looking for a Canadian company who will take on our electrical >> expenses -- on their books, rather than on our books. We would be >> happiest to find someone who will do this on an annual recurring >> basis. >> >> That way the various OpenBSD efforts can be supported, yet written off >> as an off-site operations cost by such a company. If we reduce this >> cost, it will leave more money for other parts of the project.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973077503723&w=2 <--tl;dr of the linked thread: Theo is still the biggest asshole in *nix/BSD land (favorite quote from Theo in that thread: "I really love how we keep getting advice. Anyone want to suggest we hold a bake sale?" )

 

[texteditor]

Theo is still the biggest asshole in *nix/BSD land (favorite quote from Theo

very true, Theo's assholery is legendary. I've given them money before and will again for their work their project does, despite Theo and everything he says

probably due to all the SUN/SPARC gear

also probably very true

 

[willie]

They have a lot of ancient crap equipment that they test all their stuff on, maybe even Vaxes, not just Suns which are just sort of overgrown PC's.  People familiar with the details and who have given them money before have told me that it's basically crazy what they're doing.

 

[raindog308]

You can see Theo's basement crappile here starting at 0:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlgdvSNpi60

I'm confused about where all this $150K/month electricity bill gear is - certainly not Theo's basement, as he says his bill is $600/month. If you look at their hardware wants list:

http://www.openbsd.org/want.html

It says things like "a VAX (something) is needed in France", "a longsoon is needed in Mountain View", etc.

Not that I think they're lying - in fact, I imagine Theo is scrupulously honest. But I agree about OpenBSD supporting a lot of crap. Great, I can boot OpenBSD on an HP PA-RISC or a VAX. If that was free to provide, party on...but apparently it's not. Maybe OpenBSD should focus on its strengths and leave "you can boot on everything ever made including pc532" (*) to NetBSD.

(*) NetBSD supported pc532 (maybe they still do). There were less than 200 of these systems made in 1989.