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Erawan

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If anyone use vds6, please make sure to whitelist the allowed login IP to only specific IP. My last experience with them is someone breaking into my vdsmanager, and change many data, including the vps. And when I send a Ticket to them, they said that it's impossible to break into the vdsmanager.
 

3v-manager

New Member
You can consider location in Ukraine. In this country are not bad hosting company. Maybe someone still need this information
 

DedidamNET

New Member
I wonder why the hosting market is so bad in South and Central America. I think that with all that population there, they would have a more competitive market.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
I wonder why the hosting market is so bad in South and Central America. I think that with all that population there, they would have a more competitive market.

The simple and main reason: infrastructure sucks which is why routing between neighboring countries in South America often takes a detour up through Miami.  Corruption, lack of cooperation between countries, lack of government infrastructure spending in many countries, political instability, high import taxes and bureaucracy in some countries, high poverty rates, all slow down development and raise the cost of doing business for hosting companies in South America.  Africa, with a population nearly 3 X greater than South America, suffers from similar Internet infrastructure development challenges.


Brazil specific reason: ridiculously high import duties make it unattractive to most foreign companies http://www.dutycalculator.com/country-guides/Import-duty-taxes-when-importing-into-Brazil/
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I wonder why the hosting market is so bad in South and Central America. I think that with all that population there, they would have a more competitive market.

There are language barriers too.  Not everyone speaks watered down Ameri-Spanish.  Some of these countries down there have other languages and decent use / adherence too.  That always causes barrier to the market.


Definitely need more sea fiber from all these unusual locations and at rates that are sustainable.  Many of these places the sea fiber is a fortune to gain access to.


As @DomainBop pointed out too, poverty leads to disinterest in tech.  When feeding yourself is the struggle, all this stuff is worlds away.
 
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DedidamNET

New Member
Can you tell me what is the hosting market in Ethiopia?  I am interested in hearing from a local more about the African hosting market. If you have a website that is addressed to the local market, what hosting providers do you go to usually? 
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Can you tell me what is the hosting market in Ethiopia?  I am interested in hearing from a local more about the African hosting market. If you have a website that is addressed to the local market, what hosting providers do you go to usually? 

The short answer would be there basically is no locally hosted hosting market in Ethiopia and other African countries that aren't directly connected to one of the submarine cables (see map: http://www.submarinecablemap.com/ ).  


If you're an Ethiopian company and you want a website you're probably going to look for hosting with a provider in another country.  Internet penetration in Ethiopia is also among the lowest in Africa so not many of your local customers will even have Internet access: only 3.7% of Ethiopians are Internet users (2015 figures, African Internet usage stats).  Compare that low 3.7% figure to the 54.6% of Egyptians, 49% of South Africans or 51.1% of Nigerians who are Internet users.


Interesting presentation the Ethiopian government gave to the UN in 2012 on their plans to improve the communications infrastructure in the country: (34 page .pdf): http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un-dpadm/unpan049911.pdf
 

graeme

Active Member
Numbers for "internet users" can be misleading because it includes people who make very limited use of the internet, maybe even just one app (most often Facebook) on their phone. Some of them do not even realise that they are using the internet (surveys in some countries showed more people saying they used Facebook than saying they used the internet)
 

DedidamNET

New Member
The short answer would be there basically is no locally hosted hosting market in Ethiopia and other African countries that aren't directly connected to one of the submarine cables (see map: http://www.submarinecablemap.com/ ).  


If you're an Ethiopian company and you want a website you're probably going to look for hosting with a provider in another country.  Internet penetration in Ethiopia is also among the lowest in Africa so not many of your local customers will even have Internet access: only 3.7% of Ethiopians are Internet users (2015 figures, African Internet usage stats).  Compare that low 3.7% figure to the 54.6% of Egyptians, 49% of South Africans or 51.1% of Nigerians who are Internet users.


Interesting presentation the Ethiopian government gave to the UN in 2012 on their plans to improve the communications infrastructure in the country: (34 page .pdf): http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un-dpadm/unpan049911.pdf

That sounds quite bad. Hope to improve your situation, or at least build some intranets like in Cuba, where at least the whole country is connected within.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I expect most of these countries have intra-nets.  If the population has access to it, that's the big question.


I think the intra/extra net model has been massively overlooked and will emerge again soon.  Everything being internet bound is just blah.
 
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