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The truth about Mao and BuyVM

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maounique

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I also agree on Spirit's part. He was the one opening a thread asking why I was banned (and a few others with me). Nobody had a clear explanation, some tried to make up lies that I was supported DDoSing LET even tho nobody could find a post in which i said those things, nor show some PMs. 

I was even more surprised by his sudden attack on me when i was simply joking. Was a sad joke tho DB really left because of his "opinion" backed by "The People". It was a horrible sensation of deja vu, only with other people. 

He is not understanding the issues now, but he will, I am waiting that moment when we can be friends again, the truth will no longer stand between us. I am confident Spirit will not play their games when he will wake up and I am also confident that will be soon. 

It is wrong this has nothing to do with BuyVM, it has a lot to do, the events are strikingly similar, there are a few differences for example BoyVM still denies they ruled LET in spite of accepting they were having the database and did work there as chief was merely a name. CC tried to keep it secret, but it didnt work, so they had to admit it, albeit later. There are also other differences but not of substance. Both reigns reject dissent, both are ruling through intermediaries, both banned people which didnt break any rule but allowed the real rule-breakers attack the banned people and spread lies about them even after they were banned, both treat people with different measures based ont heir interests, for example BuyVM was ridiculing all hosts that were invoking the "DC fault" and even had a meme about it, but then when it was finally proven beyond any reason of a doubt their netowrk sucks, you guessed it, was DC's fault. Our winning boy is also ridiculing other providers for faults of which he is much more guilty. The parallels can continue, but it is sad nobody will see it through, losing the forest in the back of the trees. The memes and insults do work. At least for a while.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
It is wrong this has nothing to do with BuyVM, it has a lot to do, the events are strikingly similar, there are a few differences for example BoyVM still denies they ruled LET in spite of accepting they were having the database and did work there as chief was merely a name.
Prove it, boy.  And if you're going to make accusations, have the balls to speak to me directly.
 

maounique

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I have nothing to discuss with you, you didnt withdraw the insults and until you do you are not worth talking to. Francisco himself admitted it, I think you two should meet and ask each other what proof I need to post, the PMs where he was telling me that or where he was threatening to hack prometeus solus if uncle doesnt kick me ? 

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Oh, I know you PMed him, and I know about your ridiculous demand that I publicly apologize to you.  News flash:  Not going to happen.  I also know that Fran doesn't make threats, period.  But now, you've played a dangerous hand.

I demand proof of Francisco threatening to hack Prometeus.  Proof you can never provide, because as always you do nothing but tell lies.

Funny how in a single thread you go from "BuyVM oversells network" to "EGI has shitty network" - maybe you should stick to a single story.

And if you have nothing to discuss with me, then I strongly suggest you simply stop mentioning me or BuyVM.  You may be accustomed to hiding behind a monitor and saying what you like - but you can't hide from me, kid.  Any time you decide to tell lies about us, I'll be there to show just what a dishonest coward you are.
 

vRozenSch00n

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As I remember, Tor host banning was in a chaotic time where LEB was DDoSed constantly and heavily, not to mention there are several other providers who wants to have control over LEB & LET.

Everybody was in a jumpy situation and AFAIK Francisco was helping LEB mitigating the attack and has nothing to do with the LEB & LET ownership.

There is some truth about BuyVM network, but their $15 is quite popular and without overselling, nothing would work.

I'm sorry if I didn't remember things correctly as my head is still using SDRAM  :p
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
There is some truth about BuyVM network, but their $15 is quite popular and without overselling, nothing would work.
 

I would love to see some proof of this 'truth'.  We've always been fully open about what goes on between us and our DCs, for better or worse.  When we found out about EGI's massive overselling, we had no problems explaining to our clients exactly what the issue with the network was, and why we were leaving the DC.

 

We've also answered claims about us "overselling" our nodes before, as well.  I strongly suggest reading some of that before you make assumptions, Rozen.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
You know what... I just had a hilarious thought.  And since it's apparently "make shit up as you go" storytime, let's run with it :p

Here we have an active thread that's pretty much anti-CC.  Mao jumps in, barely (if even) touches the topic at hand, and tries REALLY damn hard to turn it into an anti-BuyVM thread.  I wonder how much Jon's paying him to cause trouble? :p
 

vRozenSch00n

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I would love to see some proof of this 'truth'.  We've always been fully open about what goes on between us and our DCs, for better or worse.  When we found out about EGI's massive overselling, we had no problems explaining to our clients exactly what the issue with the network was, and why we were leaving the DC.
See, I told you my memory could have been broken  :p  The truth is I trust BuyVM and I entrust my main services with you.

We've also answered claims about us "overselling" our nodes before, as well.  I strongly suggest reading some of that before you make assumptions, Rozen.
Yes, "overselling" is actually optimizing resources IMHO.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
There's a very big difference between overselling and optimization.  Optimization is that we sell very specific plans (we don't offer custom plans for this reason), and each node is dedicated to a plan type.  This gives us a very clear limit on how many plans we can put per node, and what hardware the node needs to be running to meet our minimum profit cap.  If we have spare resources, we'll utilize them.  We won't try to cram extra VMs onto a node just to make a buck.
 

vRozenSch00n

Active Member
There's a very big difference between overselling and optimization.  Optimization is that we sell very specific plans (we don't offer custom plans for this reason), and each node is dedicated to a plan type.  This gives us a very clear limit on how many plans we can put per node, and what hardware the node needs to be running to meet our minimum profit cap.  If we have spare resources, we'll utilize them.  We won't try to cram extra VMs onto a node just to make a buck.
I know that Aldryc. :) Now please don't get mad at me and stomp me. :p  
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
No worries, I'm not mad.  Simply making a correction before misinformation gets out of hand.  Careless wording can often cause just as much damage as intentional lies.
 

wlanboy

Content Contributer
Correct.  Problem is, the kid never could keep his rants private, or even focused to single threads.  Notice how this thread has nothing to do with us?  Yet already he tried to drag up old crap in a completely unrelated thread.

The biggest difference is, pub will create dedicated CC threads, and typically only participate in CC hate in unrelated threads if it has already been brought up.  Mao here will try to derail every thread he can with this nonsense, and in the end the community suffers most for it.
So if I can count correctly he is allowed to create about 30 "BuyVM is bad" topics ;)

And of course after that about 30 "Xavvo or Catalysthost is bad" topics too.

Yup I was waiting for a situation like this. Dr. Mike lowered the bar of "what should be allowed" to the absolut minimum.

It was tollerated because it was CC. Now you have to tollerate the same amount of bully content for yourself.

Or as I said to my little son:

Do as you would be done by!
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I really recommend Mao starts a dedicated thread, or later we can have moderation move the off topic posts to a new thread. That we do here :)


EGI and p!ss poor network. Yeah, remember it as a customer and my first taste of BuyVM. I was highly disappointed. But, at that point, support was forthcoming and Fran even contacted me personally when I made a fuss about it.


No worries or foul on anyones part so far... I think Mao has some unresolved matters about prior involvement of BuyVM in LET and honestly, it's probably a decent history lesson for many of us.


No talks about this provider attacking that provider or Uncle yanked into this. Both Proemeteus and BuyVM are rather exceptional companies in the low-cost VPS market. Both are competent and good people. I am a customer of both :)


Continue...
 
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Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
So if I can count correctly he is allowed to create about 30 "BuyVM is bad" topics ;)

And of course after that about 30 "Xavvo or Catalysthost is bad" topics too.
I'd be fine with that :p  I could easily deal with those threads as they arose, and folks not wanting to deal with the drama could ignore the threads completely.

I take issue with unrelated threads being derailed, which pisses everyone off.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
No worries or foul on anyones part so far... I think Mao has some unresolved matters about prior involvement of BuyVM in LET and honestly, it's probably a decent history lesson for many of us.
Yeah, he seems to be convinced that "I banned him" or some such nonsense.  As if he would be special enough to be the only person I would've banned, given the chance? :p He's just some kid butthurt over my opinions about TOR - I've known plenty of others far more irritating.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Maybe I just selectively read poorly...

Adryic, what was and now is your opinion about TOR?
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Maybe I just selectively read poorly... Adryic, what was and now is your opinion about TOR?
My personal opinion - TOR may have started with 'noble goals'.. but quite honestly, it has ALWAYS been a service for hiding what you're doing.  Regardless of intent, this will always be heavily misused.  It is fact (not opinion) that child pornography and other unsavoury services exist on TOR.  It is my opinion that removing responsibility from a person (ie - anonymity) will far more often lead to immaturity than not.  Combining this, it is not a service that I would ever advocate or support - especially when alternatives such as secured VPNs exist.

Personally, I am 100% against allowing TOR - especially given how easy it's been to compromise by various governments.  Simply too much liability on the provider, and next to zero on the abuser.  THAT is my opinion.
 

wlanboy

Content Contributer
That's a good one
Thanks.

We will see what happens if 20% of the latest topics are about "bad BuyVM" and if the topics are on page 1 of google search results.

Hey they pushed the seo of vpsboard to harm CC - but this knife can bite back.

I am waiting for a statement like "this does have detrimental influence on business and therefore the topic was deleted".
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Interesting Adryic.


I am on the same fence rail as you about TOR. Slightly different footing, but I am entirely distrustful of TOR.


As a parent the child stuff bothers me, but not as much as some folks. Same bad content exists otherwise on the normal net, via private networks, postal mail, etc. I look at all porn as problematic. CP is yucky obviously and legally a hot button nasty being abused to set folks up. So I think it's overblown. Now, you try pulling that kind of behavior on my children, my friend Smith & Wesson will cure you of your ills.


TOR I take as being a honeypot. Like most tech solutions to traditional worldly shortcomings a mere half baked solution comes along and everyone hops on, but few up to task actually audit and study the underlaying technology, crypto, etc.


TOR's noble goals... last time I checked seems to have been funded by the usual goverment ops groups... Naval money was the odd ball in the mix. People behind it from tech perspective, meh, not really buying their spiel.


Anonymity I am 1000000% for. Even if it is believed to make some act more immature and others more likely to take risks. Eventually that novelty wears off for folks.


VPN is a tracked and traced technology. No way to be a whistleblower with merely a VPN. That's a place that TOR fills the need, if you trust your life in that way.


+1 on compromises and monitoring end nodes.


+1 on too much provider liability
 
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