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jarland

jarland

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William said:
Maybe they finally replace some of the idiotic mods/admins...
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This, please. WHT is nearing the point of being irrelevant in the industry that it once stood as a powerful voice for. It's nothing but self serving advertisements, even when masked as discussions, and a staff that selectively enforces rules based on their feelings about members (report a review by a premium member about a company they've admitted to not being a client of if you don't believe me). It's a joke. I can't even find a reason to log in anymore. I'm in the industry and I go weeks without even remembering it exists. Sad, considering it's potential.


Maybe the new owners will clean house eventually.
 
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drmike

drmike

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jarland said:
It's nothing but self serving advertisements, even when masked as discussions, and a staff that selectively enforces rules based on their feelings about members ....
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The need to make money is apparent all over.

Sometimes I think about what would be left on WHT if they did away with the offers areas :)  30 days, no offers...

People continue to make offers there and pay crazy fees to the place.   I can't see the big cash chip in being worth it.  Hopefully someone says how they make a mint with 3 day postings and Stickies.

Like @jarland (good to see you) I visit WHT not as much as I use to.
 
blergh

blergh

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As we say in Sweden; Mycket vill ha mer (He who has plenty always craves more).
 
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tmzVPS-Daniel

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After monitoring our VPS sticky for 3-4 months, the ROI is much lower than it used to be. I don't think a lot of them will keep it if the prices do go up... 

Francisco said:
Pinned threads are going to go up in price for sure.


Francisco
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Francisco

Francisco

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tmzVPS-Daniel said:
After monitoring our VPS sticky for 3-4 months, the ROI is much lower than it used to be. I don't think a lot of them will keep it if the prices do go up...
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You aren't the first I've heard say that.

There's more than a few i've talked to that were pretty sure that regular Corporate membership postings would've done the same amount of business but were afraid to cancel their thread out of fear of being wrong and not having a way to get it again.

I know someone who had a pinned thread in the shared/reseller area that had literally 0 signups in the week they ran their ad, even though their pricing was very budget.

I think fully managed plans ($30/month range stuff) is about the only thing that can make those pins do OK. You'd have to move some serious inventory as an unmanaged VPS brand to make up what the rumored costs of thread ownership are.

Francisco
 
HalfEatenPie

HalfEatenPie

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rds100 said:
I don't know about you guys, but if i go to WHT to browse the offers section i always skip the pinned threads and only look at the normal non-pinned ones.
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I agree.

Honestly the most appealing to me are the numbers.  I've stopped really reading the letters.  Also the bigger font sizes are probably the most effective part of their advertising thing.  Pinned threads do absolutely nothing for me. 
 
drmike

drmike

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rds100 said:
I don't know about you guys, but if i go to WHT to browse the offers section i always skip the pinned threads and only look at the normal non-pinned ones.
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(raises hand for inclusion)


Too many of the brands stuck to top of categories have been lingering there forever :)


I don't buy managed anything.... and I don't buy cPanel....  so it's at least in VPS offers, entirely ignored by me.


... and that damn LiquidWeb VPS section ad:

Liquid Web: Storm SSD | Xeon E3-1240 SSD $269/mo; Dual AMD Opteron 6128 $499/mo


Why doesn't someone prune that?  Wrong title for that category.

Does someone have a current rate chart for the stickies?
 
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Steven F

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drmike said:
(raises hand for inclusion)


Too many of the brands stuck to top of categories have been lingering there forever :)


I don't buy managed anything.... and I don't buy cPanel....  so it's at least in VPS offers, entirely ignored by me.


... and that damn LiquidWeb VPS section ad:

Liquid Web: Storm SSD | Xeon E3-1240 SSD $269/mo; Dual AMD Opteron 6128 $499/mo


Why doesn't someone prune that?  Wrong title for that category.

Does someone have a current rate chart for the stickies?
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It ranges from $300 for the shared section to $999 a month for the dedicated section (weekly). It might be cheaper in a few other sections, but those are what I recall.
 
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DomainBop

DomainBop

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Steven F said:
That's actually very affordable if it brings in one or two clients a week.
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A customer acquisition cost of $500-$999 per new client isn't really what I would call a good deal

I'm assuming the budget dedicated hosts like i3d who have stickies are pulling in more than 1-2 new clients per week from their sticky which is why they continue to renew the ads, otherwise that $500-$999 per new customer would be the equivalent of the revenues they'd receive from a new customer for an entire year's server rental.
 
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blergh

blergh

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Steven F said:
That's actually very affordable if it brings in one or two clients a week.
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Except it doesn´t. I would love to know how many hits they get, as most people skip the paid (often more expensive) stickies.
 
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tmzVPS-Daniel

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Francisco said:
You aren't the first I've heard say that.


There's more than a few i've talked to that were pretty sure that regular Corporate membership postings would've done the same amount of business but were afraid to cancel their thread out of fear of being wrong and not having a way to get it again.


I know someone who had a pinned thread in the shared/reseller area that had literally 0 signups in the week they ran their ad, even though their pricing was very budget.


I think fully managed plans ($30/month range stuff) is about the only thing that can make those pins do OK. You'd have to move some serious inventory as an unmanaged VPS brand to make up what the rumored costs of thread ownership are.


Francisco
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As suspected, prices are going up for corp members. I see them going up for  stickies also fairly soon.

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gordonrp

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Increasing prices might get rid of some of the fly by night hosts, and I'm a-ok with that. Bring it on.
 
MannDude

MannDude

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gordonrp said:
Increasing prices might get rid of some of the fly by night hosts, and I'm a-ok with that. Bring it on.
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It'd be better if the restricted the ability to post offers to only providers who are capable of providing valid legal documentation that would suggest they're a legitimate business or proof that they've been operating/trading for X number of years. It's what we do here for the VPS offers. Of course, there are the non-verified offers forum but that's not indexed by Google and not seen to guests.

That'd get rid of the plethora of resellers who are trying to sound like they own a DC and have tons of servers when in fact they have 12 clients on a $20/mo reseller account, and if they don't make two more sales that month they'll have to go out of business...
 
robbyhicks

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I've been in almost constant contact with the inet guys so I'm guessing this is going to be a very gradual transition.

I've found the 1yr corp membership to be the most bang for the buck so to speak.
 
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