ColoCrossing Makes List of Largest ARIN Free Pool IP Acquirers in 2013
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Hahahahahahaha god this thread is an utter joke. The OP, the post by Manndude and Dustin is beyond laughable
What did I even post? I think I simply asked a question in here, didn't make any claims.
The question you "asked" was purposly asked knowing that the answer was wrong and to let people believe what you said was correct.
This?
I'm not for sure if it's true or not, which is why it was presented in the form of a question.
EDIT: I mean, I suppose we could all ping ARIN and have them look into it, if you want. They would know better than myself or anyone else here if everything is up to par.
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drmike
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This thread isn't a joke. It's just the facts, ma'am. Don't start squirming in your Speedos cause someone is looking at your man's stash.
Oh hey, I looked it up.
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four24So by your response I take it that CC doesn't utilize anywhere near that much of their allocation? Hmm. I suppose we should all ping ARIN to investigate further: https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/ // https://www.arin.net/public/fraud/index.xhtml
ARIN can:
Wow. Well, I know what I'm doing now after my pizza is out of the oven. Thanks.
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
I feel bad for CC + CVPS. They are capable, but this IP collection schema. Crap, the trolls online sniffed it and some academic at a prestigious university smacked lips about it...
ColoCrossing Makes List of Largest ARIN Free Pool IP Acquirers in 2013 is nearly an exact title taken from the professor's paper.
The joke is ARIN allows this behavior and large issuance of IPs to companies that aren't utilizing prior issued ranges and that ARIN isn't reclaiming IPs when those justifying the allocation move out / on / away from CC and similar hoarding companies.
If you read the paper you will see the whole IPV6 avoidance and even some cost/value numbers when shortage hits.
ColoCrossing Makes List of Largest ARIN Free Pool IP Acquirers in 2013 is nearly an exact title taken from the professor's paper.
The joke is ARIN allows this behavior and large issuance of IPs to companies that aren't utilizing prior issued ranges and that ARIN isn't reclaiming IPs when those justifying the allocation move out / on / away from CC and similar hoarding companies.
If you read the paper you will see the whole IPV6 avoidance and even some cost/value numbers when shortage hits.
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We are in phase 3 of the countdown process and under current nrpm an ISP can only request up to 3 month supply now days.
jarland
The ocean is digital
ARIN has so much to deal with they probably overlook some key details. They've learned how to work the system is all.
drmike
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Hell, I'll gladly audit CC's issuance and justification applications for FREE.
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We've discussed this IPv6 avoidance on nanog and arin lists.
ARIN does a good job for what they have to work with. However, its not perfect. Each member of ARIN is expected to be good stewards of the space they are assigned.
ARIN does a good job for what they have to work with. However, its not perfect. Each member of ARIN is expected to be good stewards of the space they are assigned.
Also, if you can show at least 80% assigned for all previous assignements either through SWIP or rWHOIS they will usually approve you once they do some vetting.
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Hosting providers do fall under the ISP guidelines, yes. End-user is totally different than what webhosts are providing.
Plenty of time to criticize posts relating to your "upstream" that you "share office space with", but not enough regarding your UGVPS company I see. Merry Christmas.
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Only have to provide information related to your last IP allocation from ARIN. Your older allocations are assumed to be no different than the information you provided for it when you applied for your new block (or at least very minimal changes in allocations assigned). They ask you to give a % of utilization of all prior blocks, but no other documentation.
As an example:
Once I had my very first /22 at requirement, I had to provide information for for a /21 to be approved
Once my /21 was at-requirement and I needed to apply for a /20, I had to provide information relating to ONLY my last block (being the /21) -- the /22 is assumed unchanged.
Once my /20 was at-requirement, I applied for a /19 and provided information relating to ONLY my last block (being the /20) - the /21 and /22 is assumed unchanged.
Unfortunately ARIN is a relatively small team with regular requests for IP space from a very large amount of providers. They DO have a policy to investigate IP requests in great detail, but these are typically reserved for some of the very-largest allocations. The entire system operates under an honor system, which it should be able to use without much incident. Some people just feel the need to abuse every situation for whatever gain they can, unfortunately.
I'd imagine when stage 4 is nearly exhausted, or sometime during stage 4, they will have more time to investigate companies they feel are cheating the system and react accordingly. Companies don't technically OWN any of the IPs ARIN gives us. We pay a membership fee to gain access to the resources. ARIN is well within their rights to take back any allocation at any time as they see fit. Unless, of course, you have legacy IP space.
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Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Perhaps he got tired of being the princess of the pair, and wanted to try being the shining knight for a change. Except in this case, instead of a dramatic rescue of his lover it was more of a tragic stumble on dismount, then trying to have drunken sex with the horse.
