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LET Q1 2014 Top Provider Poll Results

mpkossen

New Member
Has the 'official' results still not been made yet at LET? Regardless of privating voting, I don't think it's going to impact the top 10 in anyway. They should just copy Dr. Mike's results at this point.
If "DrMike" (nothing personal, you're just not the real one) would get the count right, I could have :) Don't get me wrong, he got it fairly right, though he miscounted on some votes.

I've made disqualified votes public while counting by putting a remark in them with the reason.

They took a few WEEKS last time didn't they?
Skylar, please stop saying things like this. I've told you before, you could regret some of these things later. It may make you feel "cool" right now, but really, it isn't.

It took 11 days from the votes before I published it. It wasn't weeks and you know it because I contacted you for an offer.

What people need to realize is that the votes need to be counted after voting has finished (and checked by other staff), providers need to be contacted for special offers, and the post has to be scheduled and written. These things take time and I have a day job to pay my morgage. Don't me to hard on us. It's supposed to be a fun thing. No hostility :)
 

SkylarM

Well-Known Member
Verified Provider
Skylar, please stop saying things like this. I've told you before, you could regret some of these things later. It may make you feel "cool" right now, but really, it isn't.
Woah woah slow down there. "Feel cool"? That's a joke right? I had just commented on the fact that it took a while last time, I wasn't trying to be hostile or act "cool" or whatever you seem to think my intent was. Was just an observation that it took quite a while last time around (this time it was considerably faster, so kudos to you for keeping up with it).

Don't take the comment the wrong way, as it wasn't intended to be taken as such. At any rate, 11 days is almost 2 weeks so my comment was off by a few days to count as weeks so I'm sorry for not double checking the facts and stating it exactly how long it took.

If my intent was harsh criticism against you or the staff at LET, it most certainly wouldn't be about how long a provider poll took to get tallied up. So please don't take it like I was taking a jab at you.
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
If "DrMike" (nothing personal, you're just not the real one) would get the count right, I could have :) Don't get me wrong, he got it fairly right, though he miscounted on some votes.
Yeah, my team may have fat fingered a vote or two.  Not like we have a Top 3 accounting firm guaranteeing the results in sunny Buffalo.

As far as being the "real one", it's the internet cousin.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22dr.+mike%22 

900k like matches there alone.

http://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+mike&hl=en&gbv=2&oq=dr.+mike

459 million matches that way.

Not like I claim to be some Kevin Hillstrand character and lie for years across multiple websites to circumvent bans on industry sites.  Funny how you slap people about commenting this week about CVPS_Adam = Kevin and tell people to grow up, but here you are going derp derp derp...  You Easter peep.

I've made disqualified votes public while counting by putting a remark in them with the reason.
Are these remarks on the original LET thread now?  I don't EVER recall this being public and documented prior.   I am interested in seeing who and what got tossed.  If you intend or have made such public, CON-FUCKING-GRATULATIONS.   You win a bottle of Windex to help you increase LET/LEB transparency.

Skylar, please stop saying things like this. I've told you before, you could regret some of these things later. It may make you feel "cool" right now, but really, it isn't.
Yeah Skylar, don't bust Kossen's chops.  They don't pay him enough to be prompt.  He works on union time, when he feels like it, after 3 months of Euro vacation.

WTF is this "REGRET" stuff?  I'd hate to think you'd swing your limp pole and pull to punish people making true and harmless comments.   Let's pretend like that comment never happened about "regret" before I fill in the blanks and slap a stamp on a love letter that can make you "regret" some of these things.

It took 11 days from the votes before I published it. It wasn't weeks and you know it because I contacted you for an offer.
All seriousness, 11 days... Meh.  Better than last time.  Whole thing should be automated/developed.   This shoe-horning crap into a forum is el retardo.  But hey, just my opinion and I am professional asshole.

What people need to realize is that the votes need to be counted after voting has finished (and checked by other staff), providers need to be contacted for special offers, and the post has to be scheduled and written. These things take time and I have a day job to pay my morgage. Don't me to hard on us. It's supposed to be a fun thing. No hostility :)
Checked by what other staff?   Does checking involve people manually pulling all the votes together and tabulating them a second or third time?   Sorry but I've been a committee person in LEGAL voting processes.   Whole process and WAY WAY WAY more votes happens within hours of voting.

As far as your day job and all, meh, that's nice.  Cut you slack because you draw double income and slack at the later?  No chance pal.  Pull the cart you lazy ox. FASTER!

This fun part....  Where did that come from?  I never saw the memo about LET's for-fucks-and-giggles-sake provider voting.   Last time I checked, people are running businesses.  Most are working long to endless hours.   This isn't hobby hosting.  You make it sound like a FreeVPS competition or something.
 

mpkossen

New Member
Yeah, my team may have fat fingered a vote or two.  Not like we have a Top 3 accounting firm guaranteeing the results in sunny Buffalo.

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Are these remarks on the original LET thread now?  I don't EVER recall this being public and documented prior.   I am interested in seeing who and what got tossed.  If you intend or have made such public, CON-FUCKING-GRATULATIONS.   You win a bottle of Windex to help you increase LET/LEB transparency.
I've done it this time to see how it suited me. I'll do it again next time. There is no reason not to do this other than it's extra work, I guess. I have no secrets when it comes to why we disqualify someone or some votes. We do remove some posts when people don't have enough posts to vote. That still means the thread as it is now should be good enough to get back to my count (or your count for that matter).

Yeah Skylar, don't bust Kossen's chops.  They don't pay him enough to be prompt.  He works on union time, when he feels like it, after 3 months of Euro vacation.

WTF is this "REGRET" stuff?  I'd hate to think you'd swing your limp pole and pull to punish people making true and harmless comments.   Let's pretend like that comment never happened about "regret" before I fill in the blanks and slap a stamp on a love letter that can make you "regret" some of these things.
A while back he was sending me a dozen PMs to get his offer posted. Meanwhile, he was saying in here what a bunch of crap LEB was (probably just because others said so). I confronted him with that and he apologized for his behavior. This is a nice flash-back to that. He's saying WEEKS while he very well knows it's not weeks and he knows that the results are going to be out soon, because I PM'd him for an offer.

I just don't like people smooth-talking me on one end saying how nice everything is, how much someone benefits from being posted on LEB, only to find some verbal diarrhea from that same person here.

Checked by what other staff?   Does checking involve people manually pulling all the votes together and tabulating them a second or third time?   Sorry but I've been a committee person in LEGAL voting processes.   Whole process and WAY WAY WAY more votes happens within hours of voting.

As far as your day job and all, meh, that's nice.  Cut you slack because you draw double income and slack at the later?  No chance pal.  Pull the cart you lazy ox. FASTER!

This fun part....  Where did that come from?  I never saw the memo about LET's for-fucks-and-giggles-sake provider voting.   Last time I checked, people are running businesses.  Most are working long to endless hours.   This isn't hobby hosting.  You make it sound like a FreeVPS competition or something.
No, there's not a full second count. Not yet, at least. May do that next time, but it seems overkill. The list is checked for discrepancies, double hosts, stuff like that.

It's not like the poll must counted directly after voting has closed. It's not an actual election. Like I said, it's a fun event (or it's supposed to be) where we show appreciation to those providers we consider top of the bill! I have to admit that due to being very busy, I wasn't able to start counting votes during the poll. This is something I am going to do next time. This will considerably speed up the process.

In this case it wouldn't have mattered, though, because I had to move a lot of things around to schedule the post in the queue. We've switched from a 48-hour to a 36-hour cycle (where possible) and we've had some offers being moved last-minute (because providers weren't ready), so the first slot I had was tomorrow. And that's still squeezing it in.
 

SkylarM

Well-Known Member
Verified Provider
They will be out at 7:30PM Eastern. HostHatch is up now and they deserve their air-time as well :)
I do believe it's actually auto-posting at 7:30am central not eastern (my post went up at 7:30am central). I'd suspect due to DST. Got all confused because the footer says times are UTC :). Dropped a feedback post, forgot about it until you mentioned Eastern. Was scratching my head when our post went up and had no idea what timezone it was actually posted in (always aim to be awake for the listing so got up at 7:30AM UTC to no good fortune :p)
 
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DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Curious how the count differed from the one Dr. Mike post here.
LET count vs DRMike (w/brand consolidation)

1. RamNode 282 vs 280

2. Prometeus 147 vs 151 (prometeus 147 + iperweb 2 + iwStack 2)

3. Iniz 67 vs 70

4. Crissic 62 vs 68

5. Dewlance 59 vs 59

5. Backupsy 59 vs 58 (30 backupsy + 10 vpsdime + 8 winity +10 dotvps)

7. Inception 47 vs 42 (26 inception + 16 lowendspirit)

8. DigitalOcean 41 vs 41

9. Vultr 37 vs 37

10 DrServer 35 vs 35
 
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mpkossen

New Member
I do believe it's actually auto-posting at 7:30am central not eastern (my post went up at 7:30am central). I'd suspect due to DST. Got all confused because the footer says times are UTC :). Dropped a feedback post, forgot about it until you mentioned Eastern. Was scratching my head when our post went up and had no idea what timezone it was actually posted in (always aim to be awake for the listing so got up at 7:30AM UTC to no good fortune :p)
It's auto-posted, that is correct. It could be that the time is off, which would explain why the auto-posted tweet is live before the offer. I'll investigate.
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
Wow Dewlance actually got #5 on the list.... jesus...

Apparently it's because of the 'competing forum' (vpsBoard) promoting Dewlance to 'troll the poll'. At least according to: http://lowendbox.com/blog/top-provider-poll-2014-q1-the-results/#comment-154942 and http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/546049/#Comment_546049


I welcome everyone to go through and find where vpsBoard promoted this. While I thought it was somewhat comical I do not recall asking or encouraging anyone to vote for Dewlance. I would never do that, because I'd hate for someone to realistically think Dewlance was worth signing up for.
 
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coreyman

Active Member
Verified Provider
Apparently it's because of the 'competing forum' (vpsBoard) promoting Dewlance to 'troll the poll'. At least according to: http://lowendbox.com/blog/top-provider-poll-2014-q1-the-results/#comment-154942 and http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/546049/#Comment_546049


I welcome everyone to go through and find where vpsBoard promoted this. While I thought it was somewhat comical I do not recall asking or encouraging anyone to vote for Dewlance. I would never do that, because I'd hate for someone to realistically think Dewlance was worth signing up for.
Yea I just read that and thought the comment wasn't thought out very well.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Apparently it's because of the 'competing forum' (vpsBoard) promoting Dewlance to 'troll the poll'. At least according to: http://lowendbox.com/blog/top-provider-poll-2014-q1-the-results/#comment-154942 and http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/546049/#Comment_546049


I welcome everyone to go through and find where vpsBoard promoted this. While I thought it was somewhat comical I do not recall asking or encouraging anyone to vote for Dewlance. I would never do that, because I'd hate for someone to realistically think Dewlance was worth signing up for.
Steven F, a WHT community liason, was the main promoter of the 'Vote for Dewlance' movement on IRC. :)

http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/527265/#Comment_527265
 

MartinD

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
Why is this even a topic on here? This place isn't LET/LEB. It's VPSBoard. People would do well to remember that sometimes.


If you want LET go over there.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
LET count vs DRMike (w/brand consolidation)

1. RamNode 282 vs 280

2. Prometeus 147 vs 151 (prometeus 147 + iperweb 2 + iwStack 2)

3. Iniz 67 vs 70

4. Crissic 62 vs 68

5. Dewlance 59 vs 59

5. Backupsy 59 vs 58 (30 backupsy + 10 vpsdime + 8 winity +10 dotvps)

7. Inception 47 vs 42 (26 inception + 16 lowendspirit)

8. DigitalOcean 41 vs 41

9. Vultr 37 vs 37

10 DrServer 35 vs 35
Thank you for this :)

I'd like to know how in the fnck:

1. Backupsy gets to 59... maybe I failed to count something, by the I doubt it... If anything, Backupsy was look at a points loss (see Jack's 3 points to Oktay's brands).   Mind you nothing against them,  next go round let's all vote for ourselves, employers, interested companies, etc.  If they allow it, we shall.

2. Inception was 42, but LET totaled 47. Meh gap is kind of big and well like the above, I am kind of surprised no votes were pruned for voting abnormalities.  

3. Crissic got gut punched 6 points.   Big gap since their votes were mainly a 1-2 pointer.   Could have been a few votes tossed, maybe more.

Overall, these results are heads above prior contests on disclosure - once the private voting was put to bed.   Something I laughed about and never was discussed on vpsBoard or endorsed herein.

See Maarten, being transparent or moving in said direction isn't so terrible.  
 
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