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Another movie shooting

TruvisT

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For those who do not know yet, there was a shooting in a movie theater near the SolidShellSecurity, LLC offices today midday. Very high-end place. Same place I go to see movies.

Basically, a young father was texting his child, and he and his wife were shot for being a disturbance. He died but she will be ok.

It's a sad day that society has gone this bad which no maturity. And with the talk of now adding air port level security, going to see the movies may soon be a thing of the past.

The worst part was the guy was a retired cop. ;/

It's been a pretty major day here around where we work.
 
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NickM

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Definitely a sad event.  Based on the reports that are available right now, it sounds to me as if the retired cop may have had some kind of psychological issue that caused him to over-react.  Maybe PTSD from being on the force?  He obviously shouldn't not have been carrying.

The guy shouldn't have been texting in the theater in the first place, but the guy who shot him should have let the theater staff handle it, and if they didn't, he should have left and requested a refund.  One of the first things that a CCW holder is taught (or should be, at least), is that you have to have the self-restraint to "lose" and walk away in conflict situations.
 

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Wow, that's awful and it seems to be happening way to frequently.  

One of the restaurants I go to frequently had a carjacking and robbery from gunpoint at 11:00 pm as they were closing up.  One of the owners was tied up, robbed, and stole his brand new 2014 BMW.  Thankfully they only hit him with the gun and didn't shoot it, but nonetheless, another example of a terrible event. 
 

drmike

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So a retired cop shot another movie goer? WTF?

I tell you police are damn dangerous.    More people die from police than the other direction by quite a large factor.

I wonder if we can get a 10 mile traffic jam, have a mass funeral procession, shut down business in your metro for the fallen civilian.  I mean, that's what they do when a cop goes down for the count.

(yeah there are good cops, but not enough of them these days)
 

MannDude

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Crazy stuff indeed, as a second amendment supporter and having a lifetime license to carry these things disturb me. Some old ex-tactical response officer gets in an argument and attempts to end it with his gun. I wonder who was more of a nusiance in that theater, the couple who was rudely texting or the asshole getting too worked up over it to ignore it. :(

Anyhow, glad it was resolved quickly. That Florida sun, man, it drives people crazy.
 

BBGN-Doug

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So a retired cop shot another movie goer? WTF?

I tell you police are damn dangerous.    More people die from police than the other direction by quite a large factor.

I wonder if we can get a 10 mile traffic jam, have a mass funeral procession, shut down business in your metro for the fallen civilian.  I mean, that's what they do when a cop goes down for the count.

(yeah there are good cops, but not enough of them these days)
Well if you think about the statistics of it cops kill more people because those are the situations they're put in because it's their job.  I'm not saying all kills are justified, but if your job is to protect & serve then you're going to be in situations where bad outcomes happen more often than your everyday Joe's.
 

MannDude

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Well if you think about the statistics of it cops kill more people because those are the situations they're put in because it's their job.  I'm not saying all kills are justified, but if your job is to protect & serve then you're going to be in situations where bad outcomes happen more often than your everyday Joe's.
Yeah, exactly. I'm sure this old retired cop saw some stuff in his life that has him on edge. If you're 75 and you'll pull a gun out and use in an argument then you're clearly not stable, and it makes me wonder how he's not already done this before. Can you imagine getting in a minor fender bender with someone like that? You think he pulled out in front of you, to him, you were driving too damn close. No thanks.
 

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Yeah, exactly. I'm sure this old retired cop saw some stuff in his life that has him on edge. If you're 75 and you'll pull a gun out and use in an argument then you're clearly not stable, and it makes me wonder how he's not already done this before. Can you imagine getting in a minor fender bender with someone like that? You think he pulled out in front of you, to him, you were driving too damn close. No thanks.
It's sad that we're going to be living in a world where this is a legitimate concern.  Seems like we're moving  backwards not forwards in society. 
 

MannDude

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It's sad that we're going to be living in a world where this is a legitimate concern.  Seems like we're moving  backwards not forwards in society. 
Well, statistically speaking America is much safer today than it was in the 1980's.

Crime has dropped a lot nationwide. We just hear about the bad crimes on national outlets more than we would have back then. Something like this would have been localized back then likely, and someone in Atlanta, Georgia probably wouldn't have heard about it.
 
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blergh

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I'd still rather be shot then stabbed. :p
I've tried to understand the logic behind the pro-gun people in the US as well as the opposition and I have only come to the conclusion that both sides use equally retarded logic and arguments.

Fuck that, and fuck this.
 

MannDude

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...and then we wonder why we have so many shootings. That is borderline child abuse.
I'd like to believe they're unloaded. The fact the kids are not putting their finger on the trigger which would be the instinct of anyone who doesn't own firearms would be shows me someone knows better and is instructing them against it. I'd like to think it's just a proud papa showing off his little collection and taking a picture of his daughters for his redneck Christmas card or something. Don't worry, these aren't the people with guns you need to worry about. Head to the bad side of any city sometime after dark. You won't be seeing these 8 year olds putting a gun to your temple. I don't think they're robbing candy stores. :p

You have to remember that most of the USA is rural, and outside of the cities everyone owns guns. In that picture I see two practical guns, a shotgun and an AR that shoots a popular hunting rounds and a less than practical, but fun high capacity pistol that would be great out at the shooting range.

I could be wrong, and for all I know this is the new Michigan Militia and those children are threats to our national security. I've been wrong before. :p
 
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blergh

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I feel as if there is too little praising of guns and mentions of god in here. We need more NRA-approved comments and flawed logic!
 

tonyg

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Don't worry, these aren't the people with guns you need to worry about. Head to the bad side of any city sometime after dark. You won't be seeing these 8 year olds putting a gun to your temple. I don't think they're robbing candy stores. :p
Are you saying that because they are white? By the way, one of those girls is probably 3 years old.

I would like your opinion if that photo were of some black girls.

As far as the proud Papa comment...well right now I would be worrying about "proud Papa" and getting into traffic argument with someone like that.
 
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MannDude

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I feel as if there is too little praising of guns and mentions of god in here. We need more NRA-approved comments and flawed logic!
I do agree that the world would be much better off without guns, period. No guns for you, no guns for me, no guns for the junkie across the street who is a felon who got his illegally, no guns for cops, no guns for anyone, anywhere. Whats a gun? if that was a possible reality, I'd be all for it. :)

Wars would be settled with words and diplomacy, disagreements between individuals would be settled with mutual understandings of the other, etc. Sadly we don't live in that world, at least not here in America.
 
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