ColoCrossing Datacenter in the Basement or in the Parking Garage?

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  1. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    So, ColoCrossing seems to be diversifying in Buffalo.  News the other day that they are getting more rack space from another provider in the same downtown large compound.  Seems like a hedge to me as they might have both fear of their current provider and perhaps limited on space in existing relationship.

    CC is fleeing their suburban mall neighborhood and going in the dark gritty hood of the city.  Even supposedly moving their desk-based office to downtown.

    As such, their just-opened new office building on Sheridan is up for lease on Loopnet:

    http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/18524773/8195-SHERIDAN-DRIVE-CLARENCE-NY/

    $14/sq ft. per year @ 3500 sq. ft.

    Then there is this, WTF....

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  2. GIANT_CRAB

    GIANT_CRAB New Member

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    It looks okay but that pricing though. 

    How old is the building?
     
  3. MannDude

    MannDude Just a dude vpsBoard Founder Moderator

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    It doesn't exist and the proposal is that it'd be built in the residential area next to their existing office from what I understand, pending approval from upset neighbors I am sure. The existing office was a house that was previously converted to their existing office space that is occupied by CC staff and CVPS Chris. This is 1/2 mile from the famous 'day care', which is just down a nearby street. Would be a 5-10 minute walk.

    Either way, big proposal but I doubt it'll ever exist just because it's an a residential area. Buffalo is full of empty building, seems silly to build something new when you can buy one of the decrepit existing buildings and remodel for less, but then you'd not be as close to home.
     
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  4. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    Unsure what they did there - if they modified existing home or built new.

    They just had grand opening there what? Last fall?

    If you compare the Loopnet photo to the blueprint, do you get vaguely what they were/are planning?
     
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  5. DomainBop

    DomainBop Dormant VPSB Pathogen

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    off topic for a few paragraphs because I just read an asinine comment by GVH on LET where he bragged his home based business is "massive"

    Some perspective on the giants of the low end industry ColoCrossing compared to other players in the hosting and datacenter industry.

    ColoCrossing said in a recent interview they expect revenues to grow to $12 million (OMFG!) in the fiscal year ending February 2015.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2014/04/11/data-company-seeking-sites-in-buffalo-as-business.html (<--article does tie in with this thread's topic of "CC expanding to a parking garage" because it mentions that they're looking for new office space)

    By contrast Iliad Group (parent of Online.net and Iliad Datacenters, along with ISP Free.fr and other things) had revenues of €3.7 billion/$5.2 billion in 2013.

    tl;dr ColoCrossing should be happy anyone on any forum even mentions their tiny suburban rent-space-in-someone-elses's-datacenter business and they should be really happy I'm even bothering to comment about them. :p

    Anyways...$14/sq ft per year... extremely cheap office rental rates is probably the only thing the metropolitan Buffalo area has going for it.
     
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  6. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    What that site blueprint shows is the 3500 sq. foot existing CC new headquarters to have the following:

    Grafted addon of over 2k sq. feet onto existing building.

    New 30k 3 story build with one story below ground.

    It also has another 60k sq. feet of office space that is to sit over a 2 story underground in part basement.

    Over 90k square feet of build out.

    The entire project is on 3 parcels of land owned by CC, that are residential currently and 3 single family homes.  Back behind the propery appropriately is a mall.  Unsure if it the plots legally are next to each other (CC's and the mall).

    Unsure what the outcome of this largess plan is - was proposed and some hearings on the proposal last fall and maybe early this year.  The site plan as drawn showed one tiny road into the plan which would be clogged and source of mass traffic backups.   Reason likely enough for the locals to say no.

    Clearly something happened that they are abandoning their new HQ's for the dirty city.  No one does a build out of a new HQs and abandons it in under a year.

    Do the math:

    90,000 square feet of building under roof @ $150 = $13.5 million... Add onto that all sorts of other build out costs.  This is a project north of $20 million, perhaps even higher with a DC in the basement.
     
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    VPSCorey New Member Verified Provider

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    Datacenter greenfield deployments of that size are WAAAY more than 20 million. 
     
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  9. GVH-Jon

    GVH-Jon Banned

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    There you go again taking my words and leaving things out. Shame on you, really, because I thought you'd be mature by now as an adult not to do things like that.


    Look back at the thread. I said that we were massive compared to most other hosts. Are you blind?
     
  10. Wintereise

    Wintereise New Member

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    Oh my god, does anyone really care?
     
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  11. Virtovo

    Virtovo New Member Verified Provider

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    Not quite.

    If you're going to act like an egotistical moron expect to be called out as such.
     
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  12. Epidrive

    Epidrive New Member Verified Provider

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    Look, if theres anyone to be immature its none other than you. Stop acting like a grown up professional, you wont get any respect from no one
     
  13. GVH-Jon

    GVH-Jon Banned

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    If I should "stop acting like a grown up professional", you should stop acting like you actually have customers.
     
  14. Epidrive

    Epidrive New Member Verified Provider

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    How can you brag about your customers that were all victims of your pathetic marketing bullshits.
     
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  15. GVH-Jon

    GVH-Jon Banned

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    What matters is that they're happy and they renew. The majority of our customers are happy and they do renew so therefore your opinion is irrelevant.
     
  16. MartinD

    MartinD Retired Staff Retired Staff Verified Provider

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    Soon enough, we'll start issuing gags to people that just want to cause drama. Some more than others it seems.
     
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