Colocrossing IP charges

Discussion in 'The Pub (Off topic discussion)' started by drmike, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    Providers hosting with Colocrossing:

    What are you currently seeing for IPv4 charges on per IP basis?
     
  2. Zach

    Zach New Member Verified Provider

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    They probably pay you
     
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  3. Damian

    Damian New Member Verified Provider

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    Everyone gets different pricing. (edit, thanks vpsboard for interpreting my pressing enter as posting for whatever reason....)

    Comparing what we get with what other people get, there's definitely some variation in pricing. Therefore, i'm not sure people will want to post their pricing in a public setting.
     
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  4. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    I have one company at 50 cents per IP.

    Someone else have numbers, no one needs to claim they are their own :)
     
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  5. concerto49

    concerto49 New Member Verified Provider

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    You don't know until you see the invoice. That's what happened to us. They charge $x.
     
  6. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    @concerto49, saying per IP basis for you is $1 or more?
     
  7. KuJoe

    KuJoe Well-Known Member Verified Provider

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    This. There was one person on IRC that said they were quoted one thing and then were invoiced for a lot more so they had to pull out.
     
  8. Francisco

    Francisco Company Lube Verified Provider

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    Jon made comments in a chat with me a while back about IP prices "will have to go up over time".

    I can understand that but it seems kind of dickish to get everyone hooked on it at < $0.30/ip for some providers and then look at bumping them to probably $1.00/m, which is the market standard.

    Francisco
     
  9. Nick_A

    Nick_A Provider of the year (2014)

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    I remember when they were free back at MCLayer...
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Active Member

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    $0.25 - $0.50 for Lowend hosts and $1 for standard price.
     
  11. Francisco

    Francisco Company Lube Verified Provider

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    Right, for now.

    CC's sold out or damn well close (< 10 servers spare or whatever). Who knows if the Buffalo DC has more cabs he can buy w/o commiting to something far bigger than he's ready for?

    Francisco
     
  12. prometeus

    prometeus New Member Verified Provider

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    I think some providers in US are assigning more ip in these day so that they can justify more allocations before the last /8...

    Prices are kept artificially low and will increase after the last phase will be in place.... Isn't it?
     
  13. MannDude

    MannDude Just a dude vpsBoard Founder Moderator

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    Someone was on LEB, it was a month, maybe two months ago. Stupid plans with like 6 IPv4's included. Can't recall the provider or who their DC was.
     
  14. Francisco

    Francisco Company Lube Verified Provider

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    That's my take on it, yes.

    If colocrossing was charging a buck per IP they wouldn't be where they are now. There are countless providers that couldn't afford if the price suddenly hit $1/IP/m without some sort of OVH like 'ramp up'.

    Honestly I'm not sure how that doesn't scare a provider... Your business is based off a month-to-month contract for IP space that is a finite resource. When that last /8 lands no one is getting more than a /22 unless they go buy some legacy space off the black markets.

    Do these companies have fallback plans incase CC (or whomever, Burst also does very cheap space) decide the costs are too low?

    I'm not trying to pick a fight here or slag any one provider. There is more than a few providers that will allocate IP's cheap and some of them doing it for obviously bad reasons. There's at least a few hosts I know that willingly persue spammers & SEO farms.

    Francisco
     
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  15. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    I am really concerned by the IP shortage and inevitable exploitation by providers.

    You look at IPs allocated to a company like this and masses of idle one and the recent issuances, it's clear they aren't going to lengths to get these based on actual need.

    Range of free to $1.00 an IP is way too wide considering the IPs are a fixed commodity.    I understand bulk discounting tiers, but it doesn't appear that is what is going on with any uniformity.

    Prices go up on per IP basis and most of the low end suddenly have blown business model and unsustainable pricing.

    That offer was from my new friends over at ServerHub :)  2GB plan with 110GB disk + 3TB transit + 6 IPv4 = $6.99/month.  That offer is being made out of Phoenix.   ServerHub has their own ASN. Parent company Eonix has 290k IPv4 IPs originated:

    http://bgp.he.net/AS30693
     
  16. KuJoe

    KuJoe Well-Known Member Verified Provider

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    Keep in mind that ARIN just lowered the prices for IPv4 in July so these $0.10/month IPs are still profitable. We're a small provider compared to a lot of other companies on this board and we're paying less than $0.03/month per IP, if we expand any more we'll be looking at $0.02/month per IP.
     
  17. prometeus

    prometeus New Member Verified Provider

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    You can do this consideration because you're can still request more allocations. One (not so distant) day ARIN will say: no more.

    Then each ip must be considered as an asset you need to build some revenew on top. You can still make a buck for IP but if you use it to generate more income (and you're able to do it) then I suppose you will prefer to do so until IPv6 will not take over...

    One year ago, when RIPE sent out the notice we were in the last /8 I was shocked even if I knew we were close to the end... :)
     
  18. Damian

    Damian New Member Verified Provider

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    I'm preparing to renumber and give back 1,536 addresses. Knowing the hell that involves renumbering addresses on VM servers should speak for itself.
     
  19. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    Less pain to boot CC's IPs and get another range ehh?   Porting them over from San Diego?

    Good time to develop relationship with providers who are responsive, have IPs and can do the network adjustments as needed.
     
  20. Damian

    Damian New Member Verified Provider

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    I wouldn't say "less pain", but paramount to our continued operation.
     
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