[Confirmed] GreenValueHost being sold to XFuseSolutions
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THE TWISTS IN THE STORY LINE. SO DELICIOUS.OMG, if what I am reading is correct that means @drmike has to be in bed with CC, I knew it. He has been playing us all for so long now.
Just wanted to add in extra drama there. Might as well get some extra story lines in the mix.
Alright guys. For one, I have no direct or indirect connection with ColoCrossing and I am not taking over the brand just to give it to CC in any way shape or form. I have a lot of great connections with a lot of people here and a lot of them that I've talked to said it would be a good thing to try and get Jonathan out. Ernie as well as Jon both agree with the move, however, they were nervous about losing the 200+ servers that GVH has with CC.
Again, the personal issues with my wreck and such shouldn't keep getting brought up. The money that is being used to fund any of this has nothing to do with any donations. Yes, a long time ago I had servers with ColoCrossing and yes, I did help out a few other companies that were hit in the hacks and such, however, I did it because that's who I am and how I am. I don't care if your a competitor or not. If I know you and we're alright with eachother, then I'll do anything I can to help you out.
@~Lee~ I do not believe that Mike is in bed with CC at all. This deal was doing as a business proposition between me and him. He has more knowledge on things like this, however, he knows a lot of stuff about these things. Mike is a really good dude and it is an honor to have him helping me with this.
@TheLinuxBug None of the money donated went to this. Actually, that paid off like a month or 2 of my bills.
To settle the issues with how I got money to do this... I've made some really good deals lately, great sales and large local contracts. This gives me the ability to do a few things that I wouldn't normally be able to do. What most of you guys do not know is that GreenValueHost is semi profitable. The money management just wasn't there and too much money was spent on things that it shouldn't have been.
So to recap.
Again, the personal issues with my wreck and such shouldn't keep getting brought up. The money that is being used to fund any of this has nothing to do with any donations. Yes, a long time ago I had servers with ColoCrossing and yes, I did help out a few other companies that were hit in the hacks and such, however, I did it because that's who I am and how I am. I don't care if your a competitor or not. If I know you and we're alright with eachother, then I'll do anything I can to help you out.
@~Lee~ I do not believe that Mike is in bed with CC at all. This deal was doing as a business proposition between me and him. He has more knowledge on things like this, however, he knows a lot of stuff about these things. Mike is a really good dude and it is an honor to have him helping me with this.
@TheLinuxBug None of the money donated went to this. Actually, that paid off like a month or 2 of my bills.
To settle the issues with how I got money to do this... I've made some really good deals lately, great sales and large local contracts. This gives me the ability to do a few things that I wouldn't normally be able to do. What most of you guys do not know is that GreenValueHost is semi profitable. The money management just wasn't there and too much money was spent on things that it shouldn't have been.
So to recap.
- I am not employed directly or indirectly by ColoCrossing or any other brands owned or controlled by them.
- Nobody from ColoCrossing or any other brands owned by them or any employees of ColoCrossing or any other brands asked me to do this.
- I did not use any money that was donated to me to fund this or any part of my business. I keep personal and business funding separate.
- GreenValueHost, Inc. will still be owned by Lance Jesserun but all assets are being transferred to full ownership of XFuse Solutions, LLC and will be ran under a separate brand.
- Mike is helping me with the paperwork and everything that needs to be signed.
- Mike does NOT have anything to do with ColoCrossing, he is one of their biggest hater. Our conversations show that very clearly. We've made the decision that it wouldn't fair or right to move all those customers to new servers in other locations. However, other DC's may be contracted as well.
- As stated in the above bullet, migrations aren't necessary or liked by clients, so the servers will stay in CC unless they're unneeded.
- Migrations from node to node may happen, however, it'll be to bigger and better nodes.
- There will be NO crazy deals like Jonathan was putting everywhere prior.
- The customers pricing will not change. However, new orders may get a small price hike, but not too high to price it out of the industry.
- GreenValueHost, Inc. done properly could have been profitable, however, under it's current leadership it just wasn't possible.
@XFS_Duke you understand why this seems so odd though yes?, I listed my main 'erm what....' thoughts below
But OK, sometimes things really are just what they are despite what every one expects and despite that fact it makes very little sense, not that it matters much in the scheme of things I suppose but personally I am prepared to take your word for it despite my reservations.
Maybe I am putting to much in to this, perhaps a month worth of money from your local contracts can buy GVH and the 200 oversold servers 'currently' running at a loss, I don't see how but for all I know perhaps what you bought was client access only for $500 because they knew it was on the verge of folding anyway.
If this is a nervous cover though I would have much more respect if you just said, I am taking over GVH clients because GVH is failing I know it wont be a popular move but I am going to do my best with it anyway.
If this does turn out to be another CC shill/stealth move then I doubt there will be a corner of the internet left for you to show your face, but you probably know that.
So best of luck.
- We all see GVH past prices most of us are not stupid and you are inheriting all of them.
- GVH WHMCS was dumped in public so we can back up my first point and my next.
- GVH stated it was not sustainable publicly and we knew that anyway.
- You yourself had financial issues, granted they were personal however unless you also work a day job your business is your source of personal income.
- Saying you got a few good local contracts honestly sounds like the dog ate my homework.
- In order to make it sustainable you could not afford the external customer lease price to kick in and I don't see why you would get the at cost CC/HVH price.
- You have a lot of respect around here so mixing your good name with GVH in any way shape or form makes no sense.
But OK, sometimes things really are just what they are despite what every one expects and despite that fact it makes very little sense, not that it matters much in the scheme of things I suppose but personally I am prepared to take your word for it despite my reservations.
Maybe I am putting to much in to this, perhaps a month worth of money from your local contracts can buy GVH and the 200 oversold servers 'currently' running at a loss, I don't see how but for all I know perhaps what you bought was client access only for $500 because they knew it was on the verge of folding anyway.
If this is a nervous cover though I would have much more respect if you just said, I am taking over GVH clients because GVH is failing I know it wont be a popular move but I am going to do my best with it anyway.
If this does turn out to be another CC shill/stealth move then I doubt there will be a corner of the internet left for you to show your face, but you probably know that.
So best of luck.
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AnthonySmith, to be honest, I knew it wasn't going to be popular. However, my concern isn't to be popular among you guys, nor is it to be popular at all. The customers need something better and I believe that I can provide that. I will do my best with it to make sure that everything works out.
Also, yes, I had a day job. I've been unable to work at it lately and developed a lot more IT field contacts and contracts for other things locally. This is what I do and love. That's why I am able to do this. I'm full time on the computer now. Why not take a swing at this? Lol. And you do not have to worry, this isn't a shell/shill or anything else. It is me doing what I think is best. Simply put.
Also, all services are under my control to an extent right now. Once everything is fully completed, most of you won't hear from Jonathan Nguyen or any of his alter egos again.
Also, yes, I had a day job. I've been unable to work at it lately and developed a lot more IT field contacts and contracts for other things locally. This is what I do and love. That's why I am able to do this. I'm full time on the computer now. Why not take a swing at this? Lol. And you do not have to worry, this isn't a shell/shill or anything else. It is me doing what I think is best. Simply put.
Also, all services are under my control to an extent right now. Once everything is fully completed, most of you won't hear from Jonathan Nguyen or any of his alter egos again.
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I'd have to agree 100% with @AnthonySmith. However, because you're actually much more of a reasonable individual than Johnny, I'll accept it as so. It's just hard to actually accept it.AnthonySmith, to be honest, I knew it wasn't going to be popular. However, my concern isn't to be popular among you guys, nor is it to be popular at all. The customers need something better and I believe that I can provide that. I will do my best with it to make sure that everything works out.
Also, yes, I had a day job. I've been unable to work at it lately and developed a lot more IT field contacts and contracts for other things locally. This is what I do and love. That's why I am able to do this. I'm full time on the computer now. Why not take a swing at this? Lol. And you do not have to worry, this isn't a shell/shill or anything else. It is me doing what I think is best. Simply put.
Also, all services are under my control to an extent right now. Once everything is fully completed, most of you won't hear from Jonathan Nguyen or any of his alter egos again.
drmike
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This surely has these sites abuzz
I numbered things to keep responses on point.1. Brand, very tarnished. Public, and back side. CC doesn't want the headaches of dealing with GVH mess and any roll in. Believe me, they were probably asked directly directly months ago. I don't speak directly to them, so I didn't do any asking.
2. Crap brand. GVH and the related domain will remain Lance / Jonny ownership. Whatever they do over there and with it is their business, but at last check, they won't be back in 100TB for $7 a month or any other direct to end customer VPS sales.
3. Duke jumped in where others just wouldn't. Mind you there are a pile of customers regardless of price points, mishandling prior, lack of perceived loyalty / retention.
4. This isn't my company. I have no interest in being a provider. I just offer professional services to companies in this and related markets (i.e. non technical, non ownership).
As far as putting coffin nails in GVH, this is the best option to stop the GVH insanity, stop wrecking of the market, kill a big chunk of dramaramas, etc.
Relating to CC and as mentioned Incero, neither is a party to the deal, not financing it, not directly involved. They are indirectly involved though as both are companies Duke has relationship with as a customer (i.e. he rents servers from both).
drmike
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Like Ecatel I think ColoCrossing wants to get out of the seedy side of hosting. It's part of the life cycle from a small business to a real business. Hard process and a hard decision since in effect you are cutting off some chunk of your cashflow. Going backwards in essence to go forward.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
I thought this drama and all wasn't spilling over to LET @[SIZE=11.8181819915771px]~Lee~ [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]?[/SIZE]OMG, if what I am reading is correct that means @drmike has to be in bed with CC, I knew it. He has been playing us all for so long now.
Just wanted to add in extra drama there. Might as well get some extra story lines in the mix.
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Everyone needs to admit (well most folks) we like our dramas
[/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]Yeah I am definitely not in dealing with or within CC. It's a long term issue with them and neither side would be receptive to such. Mutual no f'n way feeling.[/SIZE]
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
If that were true I'd have bird shit in my eyes big time. Cause whole thing would be back behind folks in this deal (i.e. Jonny and Duke).
Honestly, one can never be entirely sure, as I often say.
Deal is low risk though. Buying VPS companies like this involves no physical assets, no leases, no employees, no regulatory paperwork, really very little of anything. Just processes and staffing and getting ratios right to deal with influx of people.
Whole disclosure by Jonny that made this thread necessary, meh, stuff like that is why GVH was a big top circus and irritated me often.
It will get better Hxxx. Sorry it isn't a warmer feeling. Feel free to PM me to discuss anything.
If Duke actually payed a single dollar for these customers, he was ripped off.
What percentage will still be his customers 6 months from now? 10%? The crazy deals were the only reason they came...
And I suspect a couple months from now we'll see GVH offering new crazy deals and then customers can go back to them...
What percentage will still be his customers 6 months from now? 10%? The crazy deals were the only reason they came...
And I suspect a couple months from now we'll see GVH offering new crazy deals and then customers can go back to them...
Yea.... no, if you want to read what Ecatel really does and how it works send me a pm or hit me up on IRC/Jabber, it's not much interesting but i rather don't put the data public.
I made sure it was controlled drama at LET