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Failure rate on harddrives

nunim

VPS Junkie
My favorites come with 5 year warranties, HDDs are about the only thing that I actually care how long the warranty is and use that as one of my main shopping points.
 

Jonathan

Woohoo
Verified Provider
Western Digital and Hitachi as well as Samsung drives have always been the best for me.  Had a terrible track record with Seagate drives so I avoid them like the plague.

As numim mentioned, a 5-year warranty will say a lot about a drive and the ones with a 5-yr warranty will generally be of slightly better quality than one with a 1-3 year warranty.
 
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notFound

Don't take me seriously!
Verified Provider
100% is the failure rate, eventually. ;-)

Personal favourite are the Seagate Constellations and Cheetahs, personally don't like WD much and haven't really seen good deals on Samsung HDD's here. Hitachi well, it's a hit and miss for me, got a few dozen of them, most are solid but have seen a few fail, more than Segate at least.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Seagate use to make good drives.  The BackBlaze piece shows the massive failure rates though.  Yet BackBlaze buys into the Seagate 4TB models?!?>!?!

Sorry I had two drives at home go with very low hours, both Seagates (local retail availability).

I love the Hitachi drives (although probably going extinct since acquired).  WD I am blah about.

So Samsung it is.  Hitachi + Samsung.
 

rds100

New Member
Verified Provider
This is an interesting study. It would be even more interesting to see similar statistics for enterprise drives and compare.

Too bad BackBlaze doesn't seem to use any enterprise drives. They should have probably bought some, just to test.
 

TruvisT

Server Management Specialist
Verified Provider
Personally, we use a lot of WDs. I've seen better left spans from WD drives then any other drives.

Just this month alone I've had to replace a ton of hard drives for a school's laptops. None of them were WD's but we replaced them with WD's.
 
Funny, my 2TB Seagate drive at home started dying last week, and it's only 7 months old. It's still dying, and I'm using CentOS LiveDVD on that computer now. Way to go, Seagate! I'll call you Maxtor from now on.
 

Magiobiwan

Insert Witty Statement Here
Verified Provider
My personal experience (consumer grade stuff) has been mainly with Seagate. Other than one failure due to a dropped laptop (it was an ACCIDENT!!!), I've never had an issue with any Seagate stuff. Heck, the computer I'm using right now had a 100GB Seagate 2.5" drive in it which has been going strong since 2007 almost 24/7 powered on. I upgraded to a 500GB WD 2.5" Scorpio Black from a different dead laptop though. 100GB just isn't enough. My experience with Seagate desktop drives has been good too. Haven't had the opportunity to toy with any Enterprise Grade ones though.
 

dano

New Member
Hitachi Sata drives take the "most failed" prize with me, replacing one about once a quarter on 3 year old machines I admin. Had good experience with WD black sata disks in zfs arrays, with pretty good IO and no failures. One day recently we decided to upgrade that array to 3tb Seagate disks and saw nothing but IO issues, ending up in panics/crash of the host system(bad idea). I have some Seagate SAS disks that have been quite reliable, only replacing one in the last 3 years. Have also had good success with Samsung SSD drives with no failures on non-enterprise grade disks in servers and laptops, but the Intel ssd drives I have are too new to tell anything, but no failures there either.
 

NodeBytes

Dedi Addict
I have had the best life with WD drives. I keep a few WD Caviar Blue 500gb around for every day use. 

I have also had good life on the Seagate Pipeline HD in my server. I had a couple Seagate drives fail in a Macbook Pro. I took my Macbook into Apple and they replaced it with a Toshiba. It's been great ever since.

Oh, I should mention, I did drop in an SSD as well as the spinning drive in my Macbook Pro.
 

qps

Active Member
Verified Provider
For the most part, the drive failure rates between manufacturers are equal over time.  Every manufacturer has a bad model, bad batch, bad firmware, or something else along the way.

In terms of RMA, we've found that Seagate is the easiest to get replacement drives from.  They consistently send the same model or better back.  We had a few 500 GB drives that we sent in with 32 MB cache, and they sent back a newer model with 16 MB cache, but it was a significantly newer drive, so it was about a wash.

HGST is absolutely terrible with RMAs since they were purchased by Western Digital.  We sent in several 30-day-old drives and got back drives that were a different model and were at least 8 years old (with about 50% of the I/O speed).  We've pretty much stopped buying HGST as a result.

Western Digital is only slightly better than HGST with RMAs.  They rarely have the right model drive in stock.  They often send Blue drives as replacements for Black or REs.  We've pretty much stopped buying Western Digital as a result.

We haven't had much experience with Toshiba yet, as they are still pretty new.  For a while, they were just selling rebranded HGST.  I think they're finally starting to develop their own drives, so we'll probably mix in a few if they start selling at attractive price points.
 

qps

Active Member
Verified Provider
Oh, two others I'll mention in the SSD department -

Samsung was very good with a bad 840 Pro that we had.  After receiving the bad SSD, they shipped out a new one the same day by overnight shipping.  

Kingston took a long time to ship out a replacement SSD after receiving the bad one, but they did ship the next generation drive from what we sent in, and it was brand new (in retail packaging).  
 

NodeBytes

Dedi Addict
Western Digital is only slightly better than HGST with RMAs.  They rarely have the right model drive in stock.  They often send Blue drives as replacements for Black or REs.  We've pretty much stopped buying Western Digital as a result.
Yeah, I was working at an MSP for a while and we frequently sent in blacks and got blues back. But often if we sent in an outdated 500gb we would get a terabyte drive back.
 
Funny, my 2TB Seagate drive at home started dying last week, and it's only 7 months old. It's still dying, and I'm using CentOS LiveDVD on that computer now. Way to go, Seagate! I'll call you Maxtor from now on.
...Aaaaaand using LiveDVD killed my DVD writer. Gah! Damn you Seagate! :shakefist:
 

JPC-Sabrina

New Member
While Western Digital has the best reputation across the web hositng industry in particular, Seagate drives again and again continue to be ranked as some of the worst drives on the market.
 

shovenose

New Member
Verified Provider
While Western Digital has the best reputation across the web hositng industry in particular, Seagate drives again and again continue to be ranked as some of the worst drives on the market.
Interesting to see Landis here... but agree upon WD>Seagate!
 
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