Sounds like AR-15 assault rifles, I saw 3 flash bangs it looked like - not an explosive expert or anything, just observation.What the hell was I watching there?
Definitely some flash bang devices... I swear real ammo there too ... and from big long arms, not toy handguns.
The hostages shot, I'd expect them and other injuries due to that crazy volume of firing by police.
Holy farking PTSD from the PD bumrush there. That's some craziness.
Hostages Taken in Sydney
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drmike
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40 virgins....
Unsure what sort of religion induces folks with a lure of extreme numbers of virgins. That sounds like a f'n horror film to me. All that nagging emotional baggage. Bad trip through hell. Show me the path to the experienced ladies...
ISIS is just more government sponsored horrors. Which little po-dunk state over in the Middle East is behind their funding in conjunction with intelligence apparatus?
All those alleged 9-11 hijackers and how many were Arabians living under the Saud family rule? Most.
We ought to upset the bizarre carts in the market and kick the Saud's asses. Time for regime change there. Oh but the mighty toolbag of the US won't dare cause that would be energy war and dropping of the bullshit practice of buying oil by everyone in the reserve currency - the US dollar. That would most certainly sound the end to US reign, drive inflation to unseen levels even in Zimbabwe.
Yeah, but this moron formerly holding hostages, doubt he had any affiliation with anyone. Just another loose canon misfiring.
"I must warn you Americans, the gun's and ammunition you supply us, will one day be used against you"
A famous terrorist said something along those lines, can you guess who?
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Would've been a lot of supressive fire just to make that coward inside hide while it gave the police a chance to get inside and get people out as fast as possible.What the hell was I watching there
Definitely some flash bang devices... I swear real ammo there too ... and from big long arms, not toy handguns.
The hostages shot, I'd expect them and other injuries due to that crazy volume of firing by police.
Holy farking PTSD from the PD bumrush there. That's some craziness.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Would that have been CIA operative Tim Ossman (sp? Osman).... or as I prefer, Osama Bin Lyin'g? The man who allegedly rests with fishies.
vRozenSch00n
Active Member
ISIS is only a tool for divide et impera it looks like it represent a specific religion, but if you do your research well from the time of Saud al Faisal, Gamal Naser, Menachem Begin and the like, or from Sayyid Qutb to Osama, Osama to Hillary, or from Kabul to Beirut between the 70's and 80's, you will see a larger issue involving a single course:
Oil, Monetary, Power
Oil, Monetary, Power
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
@vRozenSch00n
Oil + Monetary Policy = Power.
... and only because it goes back to the Nixon Whitehouse when that clown unhinged / unbacked the US Dollar from precious metals and struck up deal with make the US dollar the petrol exchange dollar - the currency in white all oil deals had to be done from 1972(?) until folks like Saddam Hussein and other more recently began transacting deals in other currencies and notably, gold.
Look at the gang up job currently ongoing with plummeting oil price per barrel. Great relief years overdue for say end consumers in the US - who protects the Saud oil fields. Serious money gasoline costs have been inflicting on average US household and part of why people are traveling less, not moving, etc.
How to kill a Russian economy with a pipe dream? Have Saud turn up the drilling rate, dump cheaper oil onto market, make Russian oil interests less valuable.
At the same time it drives shale drilling companies down the drain and whole natural gas exploration business suddenly non viable. Which drives out domestic energy independence.
Which perplexes the gas out of me... Because the Bush Whitehouse was all about Texas money + refinieries while bolstering their family/friends in the Sauds to fill the tankers with Saud crude.
The Obama-sam-alama Whitehouse is all about, well, killing domestic coal, domestic oil, etc. If it isn't green, they are about composting that economy. But they went back to their friends the Sauds for a #2 dump of crude. Which is taking out "enemies" on both sides - domestic energy producers and Rusky.
What is going to befall the US economy from all this price crash on oil? Well vast majority of those shale plays and companies were funded by funny financial instruments. There is no way those companies are going to be able to pay up. So if prices stay this low, whole bunch of risk funding is going insolvent and mass bankruptcies. Will spell end to shale industry. They will join the coal miners who are becoming darn near extinct as Appalachia lingers in extreme poverty.
Oil + Monetary Policy = Power.
... and only because it goes back to the Nixon Whitehouse when that clown unhinged / unbacked the US Dollar from precious metals and struck up deal with make the US dollar the petrol exchange dollar - the currency in white all oil deals had to be done from 1972(?) until folks like Saddam Hussein and other more recently began transacting deals in other currencies and notably, gold.
Look at the gang up job currently ongoing with plummeting oil price per barrel. Great relief years overdue for say end consumers in the US - who protects the Saud oil fields. Serious money gasoline costs have been inflicting on average US household and part of why people are traveling less, not moving, etc.
How to kill a Russian economy with a pipe dream? Have Saud turn up the drilling rate, dump cheaper oil onto market, make Russian oil interests less valuable.
At the same time it drives shale drilling companies down the drain and whole natural gas exploration business suddenly non viable. Which drives out domestic energy independence.
Which perplexes the gas out of me... Because the Bush Whitehouse was all about Texas money + refinieries while bolstering their family/friends in the Sauds to fill the tankers with Saud crude.
The Obama-sam-alama Whitehouse is all about, well, killing domestic coal, domestic oil, etc. If it isn't green, they are about composting that economy. But they went back to their friends the Sauds for a #2 dump of crude. Which is taking out "enemies" on both sides - domestic energy producers and Rusky.
What is going to befall the US economy from all this price crash on oil? Well vast majority of those shale plays and companies were funded by funny financial instruments. There is no way those companies are going to be able to pay up. So if prices stay this low, whole bunch of risk funding is going insolvent and mass bankruptcies. Will spell end to shale industry. They will join the coal miners who are becoming darn near extinct as Appalachia lingers in extreme poverty.
DomainBop
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Financial backing for ISIS is rumored to come mainly from a few of the gulf emirates including the Saudis....and yes most of the 9/11 hijackers (and Bin Laden, whose family were close friends of the Bushes and were safely whisked out of the US after 9/11) were Saudis. Article in the UK's Independent alleging Saudi backing for ISIS: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iraq-crisis-how-saudi-arabia-helped-isis-take-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html
I believe an energy war was already declared by the Saudis (with US backing/approval) around September: flood the market and drive down prices in an attempt to cripple the Russian and Iranian economies. Derivative traders on Wall Street are happy now and making mucho dollars but the collapse of oil prices could backfire on the US/Saudis and lead to another economic implosion. Smaller oil companies in the US are already having trouble getting financing as a result of the price collapse and a wave of bankruptcies that could have a domino effect on the economy is probably not far off.
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On another note, Australia blocked an attempt by Iran in 2000 to have the hostage taker Mans Haron Monis extradited to Iran to be tried on fraud charges.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/asia-pacific/2014/12/iran-extradition-sydney-attacker-refused-2014121752658394786.html
TekStorm - Walter
New Member
The attacked on the innocent are getting out of control, governments shouldnt talk or try to settle situation with words. People that take hostages should be hit hard and fast, those people only understand force and if we dont give them no wiggle room then they will be less likely to do it. Hit them hard and fast before they can blink and that will be the end of it.
vRozenSch00n
Active Member
I think is a little to late for US economy (or any IMF countries) to go back to metal based system as the "funny financial instruments" (I like that term
) has gone to deep in all aspect of life. When Gandalfi of Lyberia declared that he will only exchange their oil with gold or EUR, and he encouraged African countries to use a single African currency (just like what European countries did) then he became a major threat in the middle east to US and SA, and he must be eliminated
Several countries that uses metal based currencies (you know who they are) have become new threats and can cause a major problem to the US economy. In short the US government has to find other ways to spread the risk to prepare for the rainy days when the funny financial instruments collapse. In the past, this is the perfect time when Adnan Kasogi enters the stage and save the day.