Incero Review - AVOID

Discussion in 'Hosting Talk & Reviews' started by shovenose, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. drmike

    drmike 100% Tier-1 Gogent

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    So Corexchange house blend is stepping down some (i.e. Cogent + HE)...Growl.

    nLayer is just going through some odd sales phase.  Everyone is picking them up now :).  Zayo/Above is real good too interesting addition.

    Agree about the Corexchange blend being better when mostly Above.net.

    Thanks to @gordonrp for sticking around here and clarifying things.  Incero continues to get mentioned all the time for consideration, or folks using them already.  Nice to see busy providers like this gracing us with the presence.
     
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  2. RyanD

    RyanD New Member Verified Provider

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    nLayer uses standard IRR objects for prefix filters, so yes they do filter announcements.
     
  3. gordonrp

    gordonrp New Member Verified Provider

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    Considering you run some colo space, I would think you know better than to make all assuming comments? We're talking about sending traffic, not announcing spaces.

    EDIT: I see in my original post i put "for" instead of "against", I've updated that now.

    " In reality what I believe happened was nlayer doesn't filter any of their customer ports AGAINST permitted announcements (EDIT: OUTBOUND TRAFFIC/AKA SPOOFED TRAFFIC)."

    No filters in place by Nlayer for outbound traffic (we've since added rpf to each customer vlan)

    http://d.pr/i/rdmA/4IxEfyeX
     
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  4. gordonrp

    gordonrp New Member Verified Provider

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    Indeed, we've had a few battles with them behind the scenes, but ultimately things are "OK" when they used to be "GREAT" with their mix. Hence bringing in our own providers. In essence they buy at lower commits so once their "spare" bandwidth from their original operations ran out they started altering the mix with other carriers.
     
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  5. gordonrp

    gordonrp New Member Verified Provider

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    Thanks. Just wanted to set straight any misconceptions, as the Internet is always full of rumors (and very few people ever get in touch to clarify things, they'll just believe what they read on forums or through the grapevine).
     
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  6. imperio

    imperio New Member

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    Gordon,

    How about softlayer dallas and internap dallas upstream provider quality compares to yours ?
     
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  7. Patrick

    Patrick INIZ.COM Verified Provider

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    [26/10/2012 22:11:41] StormVZ Sales: Do you provide ipv6?

    [26/10/2012 22:11:52] Incero: we're about to roll it out next week

    [26/10/2012 22:11:56] Incero: our network is ready

     

     

    Got this up from last year yet or still telling fibs to your customers?
     
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  8. HalfEatenPie

    HalfEatenPie The Irrational One Retired Staff

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    Thanks gordonrp for all these awesome clarifications! 

    I mean besides for my Catalyst affiliations aside I do use Incero's network for a ton of my personal projects.  I believe Shovenose understood his mistakes later on.  He can't really comment right now though because he's banned (he requested it).  
     
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  9. gordonrp

    gordonrp New Member Verified Provider

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    Hi Iniz,

    Open a ticket and pay the $199 setup fee then you have your free/month IPV6, our network and IPV6 block has indeed been ready since our chat. I don't believe you ever got back in touch? If you want to wait for the self service free IPV6 rollout you may need to wait a little bit longer as it's just not a priority for our devs right now.

    Right now we see less than 8gbit/sec of ipv6 traffic on the AMSIX:

    http://d.pr/i/UcIc/4pk4IBqH

    Compared to 2,000gbit/second for IPV4:

    http://d.pr/i/hSHy/XgqMvMWW

    So when IPV6 accounts for more than 0.4% of Internet traffic, then I'll start spending more than 0.4% of my time thinking about automating it. Until then we can manually carve your allocation, to date no-one has taken us up on the offer.

    IPV6 has been ready since 8/14/2012.

    Cheers,

    Gordon
     
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  10. yolo

    yolo New Member

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    Maybe you should spend more of the 96.6% of the time actually knowing your facts about ipv6 adoption and not base all you 'knowledge' on one website.

    https://www.google.com/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption - 2.49% of the users accessing google.com use ipv6

    http://www.akamai.com/ipv6 - Over 300,000 hits per second on an ipv6 address

    http://6lab.cisco.com/stats/ - Over 6% of home users have ipv6 in Amerca

    I can get you many more links if you would like!
     
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  11. Awmusic12635

    Awmusic12635 Active Member Verified Provider

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    Little late on the reply especially when they are just about to offer IPV6....
     
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  12. Damian

    Damian New Member Verified Provider

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    Yes, please get me stats on how many end users have IPv6 only, with no possibility of IPv4 at all.
     
  13. jarland

    jarland The ocean is digital

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    You do realize that a lot can change between August and February right...
     
  14. DomainBop

    DomainBop Dormant VPSB Pathogen

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    Change is the only constant in life.  Thought to ponder: if something is a constant does that mean it never changes?
     
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  15. HostingAbove

    HostingAbove New Member Verified Provider

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    Thanks @gordonrp for stepping in.. Seems there was quite the gang in this thread from earlier on. Regardless, glad to see the client was refunded and the service was resold (i'm assuming from their aggressive WHT promotions). I have not used Incero personally, but from the response times I could see from Gordon himself and his team, they are quite happy to help where they can while still being classed as an "un-managed provider". OP, may I ask who the new provider is that you have joined?

    ^TG
     
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  16. blergh

    blergh New Member Verified Provider

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  17. Wintereise

    Wintereise New Member

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    Completely useless, WHT-style replies are probably not going to fly very well here. Most members try to actively avoid them, and I believe that was half the reason the board was even created.

    Just my 2c.
     
  18. Virtovo

    Virtovo New Member Verified Provider

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  19. Amitz

    Amitz New Member

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    Oh please. Not those useless WHT replies over here...
     
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  20. HostingAbove

    HostingAbove New Member Verified Provider

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    Oh wow, sorry folks.. I'll try to be less formal in my future replies.. Didn't realize it hurt some of my audience members. All GOOD!  :D

    I just giving the feedback to the OP that it looked like Gord and his team attempted to help him out.. especially with their swift response times.

    ^TG