Jonny Nguyen - GreenValueHost - Raided by Police.
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Hxxx
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^ and this is why the community should really evolve and ignore this kind of bullshit. This forum is more drama than Jerry Springer. Keep it technology centered. Better for your ads, your SEO, your revenue and better for the community.
Back when I was in High School many many moons ago, part of the computer usage agreement we had to sign (yeah, a real signature to use any computer, crazy thought right?) was a list of allowed protocols we could use on the network. I can't remember exactly what it said but at the time I didn't even know what SMTP was so I was like "Don't care, I just want to play browser games during lunch." and signed it. I'm sure current agreements are much different, but I'm interested in what they say these days.
On a side note, if you're really computer savvy and/or tech smart you should really make friends with any network administrator on the networks you utilize (be it work or school). It really pays off.
On a side note, if you're really computer savvy and/or tech smart you should really make friends with any network administrator on the networks you utilize (be it work or school). It really pays off.
Unsure if you know who Mother Theresa was, but I don't think she spent her life helping rich kids from the Hamptons (or wherever he lives) to say the least.
This thread is more like Dr. Phil mode if anything.
I remember 'circumventing the network' back in HS so that I could play multiplayer Doom with a friend. We only got kicked out of class for the day, though.
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It's been a few years since I've had to sign such a form or use a school network, but from what I know from family members and past experience, the school district I went through requires students (and the parents) to sign a form acknowledging what you cannot do on the network. SSH is/was on the list of 'illegal' uses.
The current state of the public school district I have knowledge of, is that student are free to use basically any device (BYOD) over the student WiFi network and for the most part teachers have no control over students using laptops and tablets in class for 'note taking'. In theory, I think it's a good idea, but theory is rarely reality in my experience, and the devices become distractions because if a student wants to get on facebook/twitter/etc they will find a way.
Are you kidding me? You the the biggest drama queen in hosting!and your point? Mine is if youths like you weren't creating dramas there wouldn't be many
I expected at least a golf clap for Jonny - from you - considering your prior alleged conduct hacking at things... Just saying...
Amitz
New Member
Robert, just shut up. Forever. Thank you.
Turned out you could circumvent group policy restrictions by unplugging the ethernet cable right after login (while it was loading your profile), waiting for it to give up and boot into local admin, and plugging the cable back in. Reimaged on every boot.I remember 'circumventing the network' back in HS so that I could play multiplayer Doom with a friend. We only got kicked out of class for the day, though.
Good times were had on the fiber uplink of the school.
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I just read the entire thread up to this point.
I would like to point out that much information has not been made public and the investigation is ongoing. It may be a long time before additional information is disclosed, and some facts may never be known. In other words, we do not know much. The Internet can be a cold, cruel place, and I have seen a lot of it in this thread. We should keep in mind that this is a high school student in serious trouble. He may be innocent, he may get off lightly; he may get what he deserves, or he may get far more than he deserves, due to authorities who are overzealous or may not grasp the technical intricacies of whatever happened.
He may be showing bravado on the outside, but he and his family are anxious and fearful on the inside. The Internet is full of people who do not care what pain they cause, or even relish it. I encourage all of us here to remember our own past follies, and remember how difficult it was for us to learn from our mistakes and from the wisdom of others at that age.
I would like to point out that much information has not been made public and the investigation is ongoing. It may be a long time before additional information is disclosed, and some facts may never be known. In other words, we do not know much. The Internet can be a cold, cruel place, and I have seen a lot of it in this thread. We should keep in mind that this is a high school student in serious trouble. He may be innocent, he may get off lightly; he may get what he deserves, or he may get far more than he deserves, due to authorities who are overzealous or may not grasp the technical intricacies of whatever happened.
He may be showing bravado on the outside, but he and his family are anxious and fearful on the inside. The Internet is full of people who do not care what pain they cause, or even relish it. I encourage all of us here to remember our own past follies, and remember how difficult it was for us to learn from our mistakes and from the wisdom of others at that age.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
I was a soldier at that age. A worker since his sister's age. If, after all of his mistakes and chances and advice given to him, *THIS* is what it takes for the child to have a wake-up call, then he's earned every bit of whatever happens to him.
Ha ha!!! I remember being able to do that. Was on Windows 98 I believe, or maybe 2000?
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Sorry fact is the kid post-warrant-raid is back on the net commenting elsewhere. If his family and him are fearful, they aren't exhibiting that or any common sense. The internet is no place for a soon-to-possibly-be-indicted person to be discussing anything. This family must know such, not like they just immigrated here last year.
Like I said earlier in friendlier terms, if fncking juvenile delinquents like yourself were NOT 1. pissing in the wind at customers while flipping the middle finger to other legitimate companies; or 2. Playing skids love packet therapy / let's cause hack destruction; or 3. Engaging in straight up theft / deception; or 4. Playing peek-a-boo in customers containers to tickle your ADD boredom --- THEN --- I would be mostly out of material to document. It's drama not because I did the such or juiced it up, it is drama because folks like you do this stuff and it's horrendous.
See whole industry media side elsewhere is about ignoring the bullshit. It is corporate ape shit - promotional positives, sales offers and no depth technical for cover. They think that if we sing happy songs, act delusional and just ignore reality that somehow the criminal activity / fraud / customer abuse will manifest into rainbows, unicorns and glitter. Just cause they delusion-style willed it with gross ignorance.
Tyler
Active Member
The network issues notwithstanding, his defrauding of his customers seems to also be problematic, to say the least:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1484708&page=6
elrooted on WHT did a really nice write up of what was advertised vs what was delivered
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1484708&page=6
elrooted on WHT did a really nice write up of what was advertised vs what was delivered
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http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1484708&page=5&p=9457942#post9457942
ahahaha yeah I was thinking the same thing earlier today. The amount of Grown Adult Men who are out for blood and viciously ganging up on a 17 year old teen is pretty hilarious. There's usually at least a sort of jokey/unserious feel to LET and vpsBoard's GVH threads, but with WHT the tone often seems legitimately demented and insane.
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http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1484708&page=2
A pitiful, predictable attempt at preemptive scapegoating and pseudo-absolution at best, lmao. (Okay, sorry, crawling back to bed now).
I love it when people try to blame 'the naive other' for their 'plain text password storage' upon or after ~the mysterious knowledge/discovery of it~, as if it weren't precisely (merely) the former's banal, meddling observer effects that had produced the problem. Suddenly the 'oblivious other' is to blame for the critic's Peeping Tomism and consumption of forbidden fruit!
A pitiful, predictable attempt at preemptive scapegoating and pseudo-absolution at best, lmao. (Okay, sorry, crawling back to bed now
).
Thanks @KMyers for posting that.
Since when has GVH been his company? I thought he was only the "General Manager" or whateverhechangedhistitlenametothisweek? I thought the real owner was some guy who knew nothing about technology?
From those of us who are familiar with him, note that this is an individual who would try bribing people (myself included) into letting them back on sites. This is a kid who screwed people over and had practically no respect for others.
I'm perfectly fine with people having the right to do things and people make mistakes. However, this doesn't excuse him from being criticized for being an absolute idiot and removed if he's a problem. Just because you're a little kid does not excuse you from being a dick. Yes it could be a reasoning behind it and if you've learned from your mistakes then that's the best outcome you can get. However, Johnny has clearly not learned his lessons over the several years we all had the misfortune of interacting with him.
I simply see it as the result of him doing what he does best. He's had problems, there have been people who have been critical and criticized him who have turned around and tried helping him out. Even with all that support it's obvious he's failed (I mean the investigation alone and his own statement that he's broken his student AUP shows it). A policy and an agreement are what it is. If you don't follow it, then you're bound to find trouble down the line. It's a two way street, and something he's pulled on several people (remember the 100 TB VPSes?) without any consequences really has finally bit him in the ass (in my opinion anyways).
My wish for him is for him to learn his lesson, maybe even learn a bit humility, and to come out of it with more knowledge and respect. However, knowing him, I highly doubt it.
Since when has GVH been his company? I thought he was only the "General Manager" or whateverhechangedhistitlenametothisweek? I thought the real owner was some guy who knew nothing about technology?
From those of us who are familiar with him, note that this is an individual who would try bribing people (myself included) into letting them back on sites. This is a kid who screwed people over and had practically no respect for others.
I'm perfectly fine with people having the right to do things and people make mistakes. However, this doesn't excuse him from being criticized for being an absolute idiot and removed if he's a problem. Just because you're a little kid does not excuse you from being a dick. Yes it could be a reasoning behind it and if you've learned from your mistakes then that's the best outcome you can get. However, Johnny has clearly not learned his lessons over the several years we all had the misfortune of interacting with him.
I simply see it as the result of him doing what he does best. He's had problems, there have been people who have been critical and criticized him who have turned around and tried helping him out. Even with all that support it's obvious he's failed (I mean the investigation alone and his own statement that he's broken his student AUP shows it). A policy and an agreement are what it is. If you don't follow it, then you're bound to find trouble down the line. It's a two way street, and something he's pulled on several people (remember the 100 TB VPSes?) without any consequences really has finally bit him in the ass (in my opinion anyways).
My wish for him is for him to learn his lesson, maybe even learn a bit humility, and to come out of it with more knowledge and respect. However, knowing him, I highly doubt it.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Shame that WHT allows GVH to continue to power sell on there. They do so even after customer steps up and points to blatant false advertising by GVH. Makes you wonder if WHT isn't running a racket with shady companies on kickback or something along those lines.
I really wonder how he along with many other sketchy companies who can't afford servers or even staff can afford that expensive WHT membership...
I really wonder how he along with many other sketchy companies who can't afford servers or even staff can afford that expensive WHT membership...
Yeah, not to mention every LET moderator appeared to be a beneficiary of free gratis services at GVH. Same routine and they bit at it.
He's old enough to be driving.. old enough to be swilling alcohol (albeit illegally).. old enough to dabble in medicinal herbs (albeit illegally)... Nothing little about him other than his actual human form.
I entirely agree. Same sentiments from my cat perch. I don't see this happening short of him rightly getting his head punted off. So many folks contributed so much time to him to listen and help him, freely.
To be honest I think if the school is only considering a 10 day suspension the seriousness of it is probably much lower than is being made out, probably just imposing rules for the sake of imposing them which is why they called the police maybe?
Perhaps in some way being cruel to be kind to help him?
Perhaps in some way being cruel to be kind to help him?
10 days is basically the default here in the US while they sort out the facts. I don't know why that is but basically every article I've read where students are arrested they get a 10 day suspension, even the ones planning mass shootings/bombings.
Do a search for "10 day suspension" (with quotes) on Google and you'll see how common it is even for felony charges.