List of VPS/Dedi providers using Colo Crossing

[DomainBop]

Damn it man!

Look, selling 4GB of RAM + 8GB of burst + +++++ = not sustainable.

Are you rolling out large RAM (i.e. 128GB+) servers?   I doubt it.   Probably the 16/32GB house E3's.   I am betting to save cash, 16GB of RAM.   So you are allocating 1/4 of the entire server RAM per container or could be utilized.   Yeah, customers don't use it.  So you are running the oversell ratio massively and hoping no one bursts and hoping your SSD cache smooths things when such does happen.

He said they were E3's with 1 Gbps ports on LET so...

4 VPS's on node = $20 revenues= "Burstable RAM" 100% sold

8 VPS's on node =$40 revenues= "Guaranteed RAM" 100% sold

10 VPS's on node = $50 revenues= maximum monthly bandwidth that a 1Gbps port can physically transport 100% sold

turn a profit on that node = pray that nobody  actually tries to use what they're paying for

TL;DR the child's Big RAM/Big Traffic plans are similar to the "unlimited" plans that shared hosting providers sell: Snake Oil

 

[Francisco]

With a plan like that I'd assume he'll burn his port way before he runs out of RAM.

You'll have people renaming their TOR clients to evading detection and or straight up booter shells.

Francisco

 

[Virtovo]

Actually, not worth the storm.  

 

[SkylarM]

To be fair, our storage plans have had the 30TB bandwidth for quite some time and it isn't really an issue.

You operate under a 95% commit based bandwidth model (correct me if I am wrong), so I'd assume you're offsetting the total amount in your other services. In most cases, Outbound bandwidth is higher on your 95% than Inbound, so almost all inbound bandwidth ends up being "free" as a result. If you can off-set the inbound bandwidth with your typical outbound-based VPS users then you're in a safe spot. CC doesn't sell servers to GVH on a 95% commit billable, they just chuck BW at them in TB, which counts both inbound AND outbound.

There's a line between logical business model and "we're sinking, best do something drastic!"

 

[DomainBop]

High school snakeoil salesman at work. : advertising resources and penalizing the customers if they even try to use 50% of the advertised resources, changing the terms of service after the sale.

This little kiddie host likes to abuse FraudRecord by filing bogus complaints about customers who complain about his unethical behavior so his customers should turn the table on this little shit and file complaints on every highly indexed consumer complaint site (especially ones that won't remove reports like ripoffreport) so that the first thing any prospective employer sees when they do a search is this little shit's name on the first page of google results .

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Looks like things are turning personal now.

 

[drmike]

^--- you know Fabozzi use to own the domain snakeoilsalesman.com.  True story.

4 cores allocated, but you can only use 2.  Hmmm...

So I can use 2 full cores 100% 24/7 then.   That's reasonable.

I take it whatever fundraising goals GVH had are quickly becoming a horror story in-house.   LET thread seems to have too many folks with bans, abuse complaints, etc.  Far from over.   Just a mere week in for the early buyers.

 

[drmike]

That LET thread about GVH - review ---> GreenValueHost VPS Review (New Years Special)

It makes me lol... They are experiencing the reality of people buying and actually using some of their resources, unlike most others.

This is the hazard of crazy pricing, huge disk and insane transit.

I don't think we are going to see an offer this silly any time soon.

 

[DomainBop]

The Flying Cloud Nun summed up one of the problems.  Overload a server to an extreme level, and any activity will cause a CPU spike (HostSlim was famous for this type of overloading...the servers, both CPU and I/O, were so overloaded that just accessing a page in Webmin or logging in via SSH would cause a load spike to 2-5 many days)
 

It almost seems like 'entrapment' to oversell a server to the point where overcrowding makes an influx of 'abusive' CPU usage inevitable for a large majority of people--who would not have been considered resource hogs on a less oversold server--and then to exploit that inevitability with a $10 re-activation fee... or do I have that wrong?

 

[drmike]

Funny watching the crazy "Nun" attack GVH.  Strange bedfellows in the lowend...  then they go to squabbling about who gets to be on top this time.

I won't even guess how many containers GVH is rolling out on a node with this special.   Considering the crazy 4GB+ of RAM per container and general consensus to buy it and use it, they are in for a hell of a time.  My money is on those plans getting pulled and mass eviction notices.

 

[Virtovo]

Funny watching the crazy "Nun" attack GVH.  Strange bedfellows in the lowend...  then they go to squabbling about who gets to be on top this time.

I won't even guess how many containers GVH is rolling out on a node with this special.   Considering the crazy 4GB+ of RAM per container and general consensus to buy it and use it, they are in for a hell of a time.  My money is on those plans getting pulled and mass eviction notices.

I wonder if they were sold the business model in a box?

 

[AuroraZero]

I wonder if they were sold the business model in a box?

Which one?

 

[mikho]

@drmike : I have good reasons to compile that list and a lot of people will already know why

Have I missed the reason why one would list all these providers? For me you could as well list all people shopping at WalMart, it would be just as exciting to read that list.


Anyone care to explain the purpose?

 

[joepie91]

Have I missed the reason why one would list all these providers? For me you could as well list all people shopping at WalMart, it would be just as exciting to read that list.


Anyone care to explain the purpose?

This has been explained in various posts throughout the thread.

 

[mikho]

This has been explained in various posts throughout the thread.

Then I missed it, will have to read 'em again and find the reason.

 

[mikho]

@XFS_Duke : I ensure you that humble hosts like you will not be affected through this. I will categorize them through my own experience - I have been using VPS now over 4 years approximately and I have watched hosts come and go through years. But now it feels like that CC is growing hosting brands like mushrooms and LET is being used to market them up in a manner that has been unfair to other hosts, There have been many posts regarding it. Most of the CC based hosts are having oversold offers, very harsh attitude towards customers and bad oversold services.


I will suggest you slowly move away from CC, in case you feel you can not find a great Dedi - just message me - I have quite a knowhow for Dedi offers - might just get u better. I know it might not be possible for you to move at the moment - I assure you however this list will make sure not to affect exceptional cases like yours.

Found it, I'll go away now ...

 

[DomainBop]

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[GoodHosting]

We're segregating our CC relations to the brand "HardCloud" only.

All of our "GoodHosting" and related features, as well as the Enterprise Cloud are hosted at SingleHOP and not ColoCrossing, for numerous reasons.

 

[MartinD]

So... 'HardCloud' and 'GoodHosting' are one in the same?

 

[GoodHosting]

So... 'HardCloud' and 'GoodHosting' are one in the same?

I (regrettably) purchased HardCloud, the old owner went amuck on LET with false claims and standard idiocracy, etc.  (long story made very very short.)  That and someone already registered the name "HardCloud" here, (not me or the old owner, by the looks.)

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HardCloud is a "budget" provider with 80% abusive / fraudulent clients from what I can tell, and 20% real clients that I've procured since the purchase. [most of the servers in ColoCrossing]

GodoHosting is an Enterprise solution provider I am getting off the ground soon, which will provide HIGH AVAILABILITY Enterprise cloud instances through OpenNebula+Sunstone, as well as real dedicated services. [all servers in SingleHOP]

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There is a clear distinction there.