mpkossen
New Member
The mysterious "Stephanie Jourgen"?
Even I never found out who that was, but I think we can all put 1 and 1 together.
LowEndTalk/LowEndBox Gets a New Manager
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Even I never found out who that was, but I think we can all put 1 and 1 together.
jarland
The ocean is digital
Thanks brother! I'm really excited and already getting my feet wet for what becomes official January 01
That's kind of sad to read and not really true. What you see in me today is a greater appreciation for my life. I don't get as angry about things that I can't change as I used to. It's not healthy, it accomplishes nothing, it only burns bridges and it builds none. I made a conscious decision to be a more positive person, and it has been beneficial to me in both my career and in my relationships (family and friends).
It's easy to hold grudges about the past, far too easy. I'm tired of taking the easy way out in life. It's much harder to forgive when no one asked you for forgiveness, and to let anger go when no one tried to make peace with you. I reached out, I made peace, I forgave, and I asked for forgiveness for my anger. For once, I took the more difficult road. I have no regrets.
The community at LowEndTalk gave me a chance to learn the industry, Catalyst was completely supported by LET in those days. That knowledge led me to gain employment at HostGator, taking me from making $24,000/year and barely being able to make ends meet. They gave us health insurance. That paid for my beautiful baby girl to be born. The knowledge I gained at HostGator led me to a job at DigitalOcean, with people I love so much I would call them family. Because of LowEndTalk, I went from having no real direction and no one wanting to pay me enough to live, to having what I call a dream job and a daughter that lights up every day for me. I'm not going to lie, I can't even say this without tearing up a bit. This is what the hosting community has meant to me, this is the real and direct impact it has had on my life and my family.
To have an opportunity to give back to the community where this started for me... that's huge. I'm so honored. I have no idea what "the crap over there" even is anymore. I mean if we're still talking about 2+ year old grudges, I'm just done with that... I'll deal with new challenges when they come my way but I can't let someone have the power over me to dictate my anger forever.
This really doesn't relate to DigitalOcean or MXroute. DigitalOcean is obviously my first priority, but it doesn't conflict in any way with what I'm doing. MXroute doesn't need a new host, services are spread across Incero, DO, and OVH. I'm very happy with that arrangement. I've already talked to Ryan a bit about growing it further under Incero...while drinking and playing Halo of course (some things never change).
Give me a month, tutorial quality will improve. They may still be simple, but they'll a little less copy/paste and have a little personality. My first tutorial is scheduled for January 04 post. I may move that up.
Anyway, just wanted to stop by and have a chat. I <3 you guys, and I'm sorry if the new me these days disappoints, but I'm really happy with my life and I hope you'll be happy for me. I'll do my best to make you guys proud
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
That's kind of sad to read and not really true. What you see in me today is a greater appreciation for my life. I don't get as angry about things that I can't change as I used to. It's not healthy, it accomplishes nothing, it only burns bridges and it builds none. I made a conscious decision to be a more positive person, and it has been beneficial to me in both my career and in my relationships (family and friends).
It's easy to hold grudges about the past, far too easy. I'm tired of taking the easy way out in life. It's much harder to forgive when no one asked you for forgiveness, and to let anger go when no one tried to make peace with you. I reached out, I made peace, I forgave, and I asked for forgiveness for my anger. For once, I took the more difficult road. I have no regrets.
The community at LowEndTalk gave me a chance to learn the industry, Catalyst was completely supported by LET in those days. That knowledge led me to gain employment at HostGator, taking me from making $24,000/year and barely being able to make ends meet. They gave us health insurance. That paid for my beautiful baby girl to be born. The knowledge I gained at HostGator led me to a job at DigitalOcean, with people I love so much I would call them family. Because of LowEndTalk, I went from having no real direction and no one wanting to pay me enough to live, to having what I call a dream job and a daughter that lights up every day for me. I'm not going to lie, I can't even say this without tearing up a bit. This is what the hosting community has meant to me, this is the real and direct impact it has had on my life and my family.
To have an opportunity to give back to the community where this started for me... that's huge. I'm so honored. I have no idea what "the crap over there" even is anymore. I mean if we're still talking about 2+ year old grudges, I'm just done with that... I'll deal with new challenges when they come my way but I can't let someone have the power over me to dictate my anger forever.
This really doesn't relate to DigitalOcean or MXroute. DigitalOcean is obviously my first priority, but it doesn't conflict in any way with what I'm doing. MXroute doesn't need a new host, services are spread across Incero, DO, and OVH. I'm very happy with that arrangement. I've already talked to Ryan a bit about growing it further under Incero...while drinking and playing Halo of course (some things never change).
Give me a month, tutorial quality will improve. They may still be simple, but they'll a little less copy/paste and have a little personality. My first tutorial is scheduled for January 04 post. I may move that up.
Anyway, just wanted to stop by and have a chat. I <3 you guys, and I'm sorry if the new me these days disappoints, but I'm really happy with my life and I hope you'll be happy for me. I'll do my best to make you guys proud
Before I start , let me say @jarland am glad you have moved forward in life and congrats on the little one and living up to the parental responsibility. In today's world, many fail to do such.
In fairness @jarland is your role in LE* one that is being compensated directly by monthly payment?
While LET was a part of your life for a few years, it was your own effort and the luck of life that lead you on a productive path. This was your own independent effort and learning. LET, namely the audience posting surely provided perspective and some education. It is said if you spend several thousands hours focusing on anything you will likely achieve a high level of knowledge and proficiency. That's what you did and you earned it as a self learner, which thrills me as I am similar approach in different disciplines.
So here's where our approaches and my refusal to whitewash or forget history conflicts.This is where we go different path. The ownership of the sites (LET and LEB), they were and remain the problem, namely ColoCrossing. There has been rampant fraud heaped upon the heads of customers by their many brands. We know they've stacked the offer deck and injected their own brands at whim just because they can. Pointing again to Black Friday...
None of this even goes over the whole year they ghost operated the sites pretending that Joel was involved while ski masking their direct involvement.
Why would anyone of earned integrity work to benefit those assets on their behalf? It only works to drive more unearned income to Biloh's personal net worth.
Back to what this comes around to:
Your participation + time = career opportunity
Career opportunity /= ColoCrossing
In fact, ColoCrossing if anything is siphoning money from other reputable companies and negatively impacting industry. These are companies in the US that we assume pay living wages, hire qualified guys and gals and operate with their big boy pants on. ColoCrossing in contrast, devalues product value, skews market expectations with 'do whatever to get sold' lack of accounting and then backs the mess and influx of customers up with curry flavored support out of India. Why? Because CC is into maximizing profit at the loss of jobs and respect for the country where they lay their heads.
Do I mind outsourcing? Often. Is it alright at times? Sure, I think hiring staff abroad to provide native language for customers there would be a great idea. There are some other limited and justified instances I can go swallow as meh, acceptable.
Fact is this, CC isn't some struggling startup or 2 person operation. They want to brag about their cash money making and about how much they roped in via Inc 5000 (purely an ego masturbation move). They neglect to mention that they hook the money, then take the jobs that should correlate in the formula and flat rate outsource them abroad, massively dumping a megaton of support for less than 1 competent US workers salary a month. Meaning for @jarland or the next up and coming young and interested guy, there aren't really opportunities in CCville either, only indirectly gleaned from the community, which CC destructively competes with.
For a company that long claimed to be the biggest provider on LE* (CVPS) they used the Indians and so do all of the other house VPS brands. Normally brands will have 2-3 guys contributing to support and many have more. Even if lowly paid by US standards, each company still has to bust open the wallet and compensate workers. This cost is not insignificant but is one afford all over the place by companies netting less annually in sales than CC.
My bottom line about why CC remains on my shit list is simple: They continue to conduct themselves without integrity.
When you have your fill of LE* @jarland be sure to recommend the Indians operate the community also. FYI, they are good hard working people, very honest, full of integrity, but straddled with the monstrosity of ColoCrossing. I pray they find relief, peace, and business/work that is less abusive.
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jarland
The ocean is digital
It is not. My compensation is primarily the in these points:
1. I get to network with more people in the industry directly.
2. I'll have more public facing, industry related content with my name on it.
3. The chance to give back to the community.
In terms of potential impact on my career I think the benefits are very positive. The industry at large mostly doesn't care about the past drama, but they do notice websites where they are frequently mentioned and LE* is definitely on the radar of many (if not most) of the major players to some degree.
I specifically told Jon and Alex that I'd like to see less money spent on LE* and more passion spent on it instead. LEB still has a pulse but it needs better traffic stats to move toward a positive trajectory, and that's my current mission to get it back up to it's potential.
And that's totally ok. You know I have nothing but complete respect for you, me and you have spent hours chatting. I'm just letting you know I'm still here, I'm not a corporate zombie, I'm just learning to better adapt to the world around me and take control of my surroundings. I've learned how to have a greater impact, how to have a more powerful voice. I don't want to merely exist in this industry, I want to be part of shaping it. You can sit outside of a dark room and complain about the darkness, or you can grab a flashlight and jump in. I chose the latter. You'll find me in the trenches, no longer on the sidelines
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Well, going at it for free, is ehh... I can respect that. I think you should take what Kossen was getting and donate it to your favorite charity. You win, the charity wins, we all get more feel good rainbow points.
Seriously, I've only seen the sites MAKE MONEY --- investing in the sites is paying guy in your role, some idle virtualized instances on a dedi or maybe two, and some Fiverr gigs for those fake arse busted tutorials on LEB. Read, it costs them so very little. It's very profitable.
I haven't factored the income side lately, but if they haven't figure out how to make $20k a month off the sites they should go back to playing video games and get someone competent to manage things. Cause look, seriously, they didn't buy those sites as a charity. Heck they won't even sell the sites for real offer of 6-figures.
You aren't going to get passion out of money guys, unless that passion is about yachts and perping.
All that aside, we are the same people we were - on the sideline, in between the lines, etc. Don't forget the wallet you have been brought on to pad though.
The industry at large mostly doesn't care about the past drama --- Two schools to that:
1. The cheap and usually unrealistic customers - they buy crap and whine next month about it. But deal from the devil, got screwed, will sue after crying on site.
2. The autistics. To care would break their broken minds.
Everyone else cares and recognizes. Especially those competing for customers honestly on real merits and with real features / build cost / roll-out / etc. Today one has to be INSANE to think cheap is a good market segement to run after. Real businesses poking around LE*... Meh. Smoke and mirrors mostly or on two broken legs wobbling. I see plenty of upward price pressure. This stuff is business, not charity.
Lowend sites, people see because search placement is still happening for it. When that goes... and when folks like me just ignore CC and similar shit factories, the deafening lack of attention will start to reflect hard on bottom line. Just ask Jon and Alex how that skit with the Black Friday offers panned out. I'll tell you how, they are underwhelmed to state it nicely. Ask them how badly it burns their holes that all the CC brands and none can even place in the lowend provider pools.
I wish you the best @jarland and open door with you and me. Just pains me to see you in said role and benefitting them. The community died when CC was proven owner after a year plus of lying. Nothing has been the same there since, nor will it ever be. Being an old person I am fond of things long gone. At some point we all just move on and leave communities behind and onto other interests (even if the interests are the same generally).
InfinityDaniel
New Member
It's good in all but now I can't even sign into my account on lowendtalk .
What really is the reward for being a LET moderator?
Free ColoCrossing VPS in Buffalo?
Free ColoCrossing VPS in Buffalo?
Amitz
New Member
That would rather be a punishment than a reward...
texteditor
Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
jarland removed my ~14 month old ban
thanks jarland
thanks jarland
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
The owners - CC - removed a lot of old bans in the past few months.....
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
^^ VPSB needs to add a new category, "skid industry news", to post all of the news from LET, HackForum, WJunction, and all of the other sites where kiddies, skids, spammers,
^^ I knew there was a reason why I rarely visit LEB and haven't posted on LET since Dec 2013.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
...and I just remembered there was a reason for me posting on this thread: to say congrats to the new manager on the new job and for being willing to work for a site (LET/LEB) that is owned by a company (Velocity Servers Inc dba ColoCrossing) that is one of the worst hosts of cybercriminals (yes, they've moved up from just hosting spammers) and who regularly lies to Spamhaus about terminating the cybercriminals it hosts.
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Licensecart
Active Member
hear hear.. don't think Jarland and me got off on the right foot over there but I wish him luck.
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texteditor
Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
yeah i don't always see eye-to-eye with him, but i respect him far more than most people in tech communities
mpkossen
New Member
You don't know what a Cluster (TM) costs, but it's considerably more than it should, especially if you take advice on setting it up from people like GoodHosting.
You love LEB so much you're often one of the first ones to comment, Todd!
What, you were still banned? A simply PM here would have made me do that as well. That ban was solely based on Spirit's grudge against you and I totally forgot about it (sorry!).
texteditor
Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
yeah, he gave me a perma spite-ban and i just never bothered to challlenge him on it
Other than the rampant censorship, this is 'one of the reasons' why LET sucks imo: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1465697/#Comment_1465697
Just as a hilarious thread is starting to find its pace / rhythm / whatever after a few goofy warm-up pages... *blam* gets closed like a blue moon defying its own probability of reappearance! (Reoccurring phenomena on that forum in my memory). Reminded me of an excerpt from a writer I like.
Just as a hilarious thread is starting to find its pace / rhythm / whatever after a few goofy warm-up pages... *blam* gets closed like a blue moon defying its own probability of reappearance! (Reoccurring phenomena on that forum in my memory). Reminded me of an excerpt from a writer I like.
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