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Red Hat, Inc Aquires CentOS

GIANT_CRAB

GIANT_CRAB

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SrsX said:
So, how long till we hear how much they'll be charging us to use CentOS?
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RHEL owns/sponsors Fedora project and rips off some of its code.

Fedoraproject is still free, I don't see why CentOS would become a product.

Also, RHEL better fix the upgrade path for CentOS 5 to 6 and make sure there's a path for 6 -> 7 too.
 
TruvisT

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GIANT_CRAB said:
RHEL owns/sponsors Fedora project and rips off some of its code.

Fedoraproject is still free, I don't see why CentOS would become a product.

Also, RHEL better fix the upgrade path for CentOS 5 to 6 and make sure there's a path for 6 -> 7 too.
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Isn't Fedora more their like testing ground since it is always bleeding edge then they port the stability to their EL side that most businesses and government agencies tend to use?
 
wlanboy

wlanboy

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Hey it is open source. So it will end well.

If Redhat is doing something wrong a new fork will appear.

Like:

  • Mambo -> Joomla
  • Hudson -> Jenkins
  • MySQL -> MariaDB
  • RHEL -> CentOS
 
eva2000

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Interesting to see how things pan out now. Luckily, latest Centmin Mod release now supports Oracle Linux too - just in case CentOS side makes a turn for the worst :)
 
GIANT_CRAB

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TruvisT said:
Isn't Fedora more their like testing ground since it is always bleeding edge then they port the stability to their EL side that most businesses and government agencies tend to use?
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Fedora Project is bleeding edge but isn't broken as hell, unlike Archlinux.

Its actually safe to say that Fedora can be used for production purposes, you just need to keep updating your OS. (Upgrades are safe on Fedora)

Moreover, you get free ksplice when you use Fedora. (https://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-fedora)

Its meant for Desktop but with a few tricks, you can get it to work without gnome.

wlanboy said:
Hey it is open source. So it will end well.

If Redhat is doing something wrong a new fork will appear.

Like:

  • Mambo -> Joomla
  • Hudson -> Jenkins
  • MySQL -> MariaDB
  • RHEL -> CentOS
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Wait a minute, so Debian is doing something wrong?
 
DomainBop

DomainBop

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Moreover, you get free ksplice when you use Fedora. (https://www.ksplice....download-fedora)

Its meant for Desktop but with a few tricks, you can get it to work without gnome.
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Fedora enjoyed a brief period of popularity during 2003/4 as a server OS  after Red Hat went to RHEL and before CentOS became established.

flashback: WHT discussion on CPanel+Fedora :)

As a CPanel distributor, we find that most company's today are using Fedora when they signup for a license.
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lbft

lbft

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I assume we'll see Centos 7 released closer to RHEL7 than Centos 6 was to RHEL6.

I don't see why Red Hat would go to all this trouble to shut it down or start charging for it. The obvious profit opportunity is to keep companies in their ecosystem, even if they're not paying money now they may be able to sell them support contracts in the future - and they're keeping them away from Oracle, and keeping them away from learning other systems.

But even if RH did decide to pointlessly be assholes the worst case scenario is that people switch to Scientific.
 
dano

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I am skeptical of this deal and the future of Centos. Just last month, I was thinking to myself "is centos still moving forward or are they on the edge of dying"(this deal answered that question). I myself will most likely start to move more(40% centos now) towards Debian based distro's and also BSD(freebsd). 
 
Magiobiwan

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One thing that might come from this is that it becomes even easier to switch your CentOS install to a RHEL install if you decide you want the support. Right now, if you purchase a RHEL subscription it's very easy to make your CentOS install a RHEL Install (just install a package from RHEL). Likewise to go from RHEL to CentOS. I think CentOS will remain free, as it does bring people to RedHat.
 
Magiobiwan

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RHEL and CentOS are the same (effectively) though. All RHEL has is the support. What gain would RedHat get for making CentOS non-free?
 
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maounique

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I also think they do not want to make it non-free.

CentOS gained a lot of market share that RHEL lost, it is normal to gather them together again, I dont see an issue there, however I did see CentOS going worse as of late, it is better than going belly-up IMO, RH now has Fedora for the up-to-date stuff and CentOS for stability.

I think their removal of the Xen support was a mistake they regret, for one thing, then they didnt have a testbed which the corporate sector used, it does make a lot of sense.

About the future in general, well, I see it as a good move, it is not like RHEL clone people wont have an alternative if things go south, or nobody can do the same trick again.

As a Debian fan I consider Debian has enough following, we do not need a giant here that will crush everything. It is already too big for my taste, though havent seen anything bad technically yet. It is inevitable it will start to go (even more) dogmatic or lagging behind with no real compatition in the free world. Competition is good, even against your own pet project.
 
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