East Coast DDOS Filtering

[drmike]

Haha Lets not let our ego's get out of control.

No, I was being sincere.  Of course, SecureDragon does similar low pricing and a great job too

You expect me to be lured into claiming best industry offer is some oversold gigabytes of RAM and disks in mass plan that doesn't exist  I think we've been down that trail.

Freaking horses, they can't take their compliments.

 

[Francisco]

I think Joe raised the cost of his filtering because he got tired of shitheads signing up.

At least that was what I heard last time, it's quite possible he never went through with that!

Francisco

 

[drmike]

I like Joe's services, just a little crammed on the transit for the dollar and in the past the locations weren't where I was looking/doing.

Abusers will be magnetic to any such type of service at the price point.  Fine balance of human time cycles to say what it should cost all depending.

 

[Jack]

I like Joe's services, just a little crammed on the transit for the dollar and in the past the locations weren't where I was looking/doing.

Abusers will be magnetic to any such type of service at the price point.  Fine balance of human time cycles to say what it should cost all depending.

Comparing SD to BuyVM again isn't really the same, Joe gave up with the GRE he had to Flordia from CN... and just put a box in CN... so really there is only one other person who has the same setup as BuyVM and well I wouldn't touch them with a large poll... 

 

[drmike]

Ahh so Joe is only running the DDoS protect directly from Portlan-dia now  Good idea.

See that now.  Yes, a slight different offering.

(as I go and shop and test SD's location in Portland)

 

[AlexBarakov]

It's great to see east coast DDoS protection on such a low price.

On the other side, I assume plenty of people will sooner or later get into this fields. It's funny, the amount of people that PM me, asking for help or for me to entirely set up the same setup we are utilizing for our protection, some of them members of this forum as well.

 

[fizzyjoe908]

Are there any known plans from anyone to offer filtering in the Midwest US (specifically Chicago)? I know of X4B however the staff there can be rude at times and they use SharkTech for their Chicago location anyway...sad. The only other viable option here is Black Lotus which is extremely out of LE budget. Right now, I have to GRE IPs from Portland to Chicago which adds at least 100ms ping.

 

[Jack]

Are there any known plans from anyone to offer filtering in the Midwest US (specifically Chicago)? I know of X4B however the staff there can be rude at times and they use SharkTech for their Chicago location anyway...sad. The only other viable option here is Black Lotus which is extremely out of LE budget. Right now, I have to GRE IPs from Portland to Chicago which adds at least 100ms ping.

You consider Sharktech as a DDoS Mitigation provider? 

You'd be better waiting for BuyVM in NY as it won't be as bad as 100ms more 10-25ms.

 

[Francisco]

Are there any known plans from anyone to offer filtering in the Midwest US (specifically Chicago)? I know of X4B however the staff there can be rude at times and they use SharkTech for their Chicago location anyway...sad. The only other viable option here is Black Lotus which is extremely out of LE budget. Right now, I have to GRE IPs from Portland to Chicago which adds at least 100ms ping.

Blacklotus backhauls to CHI, they don't actually have a filtering POP there.

Buffalo with us will be a pretty decent option for Chicago since a lot of traffic backhauls to CHI anyways.

Francisco

 

[fizzyjoe908]

You consider Sharktech as a DDoS Mitigation provider? 

No, hence the "sad" part.

 

[KuJoe]

I think Joe raised the cost of his filtering because he got tired of shitheads signing up.


At least that was what I heard last time, it's quite possible he never went through with that!


Francisco

You are correct. We raised our prices to keep the kids away which has helped a bit. We still get the occasional skid but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

 

[drmike]

Sharktech?  Where's my cardboard mini itx rack?

The long ass high latency backhauling, that stupidity needs to stop or folks need to find datacenters closeby / same network upstream / private fiber / whatever.

NY filtering = overdue east coast filtering, with low cost and low latency.  Thank GOD!

 

[Francisco]

I got Aldryic to keep the skids at bay.

They all went to Volumedrive instead <_<

Francisco

 

[drmike]

^^^ Uncle Fran with the slapshot.  +1.

 

[Magiobiwan]

I find it interesting that there are DDoS filtering companies in Portland, OR but NOT low-end VPS Hosts.

 

[drmike]

Me too @Magiobiwan.  Pacific Northwest is massively under represented in my opinion in this industry.

 

[KuJoe]

We used to sell LEBs in Portland but we stopped that quickly when we realized it was more headache than it was worth.

 

[drmike]

Went wrong with lowends in Portland @KuJoe?  Cost problem?

 

[Magiobiwan]

@KuJoe I'd have bought several. I live in Oregon, and while Seattle is close enough for me to be able to do what I need from it (primarily backups, but also potentially a Red5 instance) Portland would be MUCH better. The only companies selling VPSes in PDX aren't exactly low-end in price.

 

[KuJoe]

Went wrong with lowends in Portland @KuJoe?  Cost problem?

Nope, skid problem. They were selling like hotcakes but they were going to the wrong people who in turn resulted in a lot of abuse reports, drama, and overall wasted time. It's worth noting that we at Secure Dragon don't collect a paycheck so if I have to spend 3 hours dealing with legal requests for a single group of kids, it makes me not want to sell $1 VPSs anymore. A lot of people were pissed when we raised our prices, but it balanced out nicely. We have a fraction of the userbase in Portland now but those clients bring in more income and less than one abuse ticket per month.

I have no idea why but there are people on a certain forum that recommend us all of the time. I need to find out who they are and ask them to stop because the activities this forum is known for results in a lot of work for us because when people can't DDOS a site offline they resort to other tactics like writing bad reviews, blackmail, even posting DMCA notices. One kid posted CP on a client's website and called the FBI on us even though we have logs that the person who posted it and the person who opened the abuse ticket were the same IP. Now they've threatened to contact child advocate groups with "proof" that we host and support CP on our servers because their DDOS attacks can't take the site offline.