I never said he hired me. Again twisting my words, making issues worse than they are.
LET Hacked Again
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WelltodoInformalCattle
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Methinks it's not about people not speaking out against CC. A significant number of customers in that location would bitch and moan about another move.
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Right.
Yes, the network changed but I'm a realist in this. There was no way Jon would be able to provide me a full gig unmetered of pure Level3, with rack/power, & the admin time he includes for the whopping $1000/m he charges us.
From the stand point of raw numbers Jon's probably breaking even on us or making a little bit. That'll be because we rarely use even a single admin hour. We used a few when we moved in and recently I had Alex do some network adjustments but prior to that the last time I even talked to support was in January when they forgot to add our subnets to their new network.
WireSix was originally going to be our pick for the east coast but Jon insisted he could match the offer and threw in some admin time.
We've been lucky in Buffalo since we've not been caught in any of the generator issues they've had (2 I think) nor has our power strip suffered any software faults. Unless CC's actions directly affects our customers in Buffalo (Jon drops our transit to 100mbit/sec, ratelimits us, favours our routes over a T1 line, etc) then I'm not going to put our clients through the headache.
From the stand point of PR? I know countless hosts that signed up in Buffalo on the basis that "Well BuyVM is there", so that has landed them tons of business.
We decided a while back that it's unlikely we'll put anything more in Buffalo and will simply open a 3rd location elsewhere when we all have the twitch.
It's likely we'll have to start pushing out lots of POP's all over the place, especially if the feature set Stallion 2's planned to get come true.
Francisco
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I await that day (Europe please!!)
drmike
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Thanks as always Fran.
$1k a month, so it is about that dolla dolla ya'll. Crazy low price there, but I am not privy to your details and I am not grilling you. Sweetheart loss leader there to lure the pack animals. Grrr...
3rd location === are we considering another US location currently? Know Europe has been a teaser, but think the spread between Buffalo and Vegas is a bit 'wide'. US central, or US Southeast maybe?
Stallion2 looks superb. Can see the need to diversify locations.
I have my fingers crossed you folks don't end up being served in the meat section due to the insurrection. You know horses = meat in today's economy.
Wiredsix offered us the exact same deal, that's where Jon got the idea of the offer. Wiresix/Ryan have been doing gig + a rack for $99/m. The hours Jon included were a really nice touch but I've honestly not used enough to say it was a deciding factor at this point. I think since we've racked up we've used < 10 hours total of the included time.
Jon has been smart to make sure he has enough IP's to float him through any deal he wants. At this point he's into the /16+ 'total' crowed meaning his prices won't go up until he has like a /14 or something. Given IP's are billed yearly he's well into the position that he can simply include ip's for free to nail down a deal. Before he noticed we had our own blocks he was fine allocating us whatever IP space we needed.
The reason I bring up IP's is because there aren't many "VPS friendly" providers in the US and pretty much none in Europe. There are a few providers in the US that will still allocate you decent sized blocks but usually the blocks are quite dirty or the actual server costs are too much.
He's done well to protect one of his core markets.
Francisco
GVH-Jon
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Maybe that's because they didn't create Vanilla Forums.And Colocrossing whom own numerous companies/brands etc don't have a clue about patching there shit...
So much for security from your "data center" I do wonder what other holes do lay open currently within there network.. when they can't even keep there main source for false adverising secure.
I've been browsing LET for some time, joined and now I'd like to leave
Jon Biloh did not hire Chris. Chris was never a ColoCrossing employee. CC is a great company, there's lots of companies who have owned property and kept silent about it. It's not a big deal, everyone just needs to move on.
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drmike
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I'll accept that as an answer @Francisco
WIresix right? Been on my radar too.
They use Colo@ locations and I like RyanD. Straight shooters.
They do have Clifton, NJ, a good local instead of Buffalo
IP allocation games need smashed with IPV6 and the market changes. Getting out of control with both idle IPs and surcharges for IPs.
I'll give CC credit for being ahead of the curve on this and carving out a market on that point.
WIresix right? Been on my radar too.
They use Colo@ locations and I like RyanD. Straight shooters.
They do have Clifton, NJ, a good local instead of Buffalo
IP allocation games need smashed with IPV6 and the market changes. Getting out of control with both idle IPs and surcharges for IPs.
I'll give CC credit for being ahead of the curve on this and carving out a market on that point.
Colo@ is RyanI'll accept that as an answer @Francisco
WIresix right? Been on my radar too.
They use Colo@ locations and I like RyanD. Straight shooters.
They do have Clifton, NJ, a good local instead of Buffalo
IP allocation games need smashed with IPV6 and the market changes. Getting out of control with both idle IPs and surcharges for IPs.
I'll give CC credit for being ahead of the curve on this and carving out a market on that point.
Wiresix was his first company and colo@ was created later on. He also has ...Total Server Solutions? For fully managed dedicated servers/colocation.Francisco
drmike
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Now how in the heck do you know this? Cause Chris said so?
Yeah.
So you trust Chris but call CC a liar?
But either way, whoever you subscribe to Biloh and CC own it in Buffalo....
So you trust your company with a company who manufactures employees, makes fake stories, lies about involvement, etc. Oh to be young.
drmike
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Atlanta has been their stomping grounds for a long time.I'm pretty sure his NJ spot is just a POP and not something he pushes all that heavy.
His big spots are going to be Atlanta & LA. His LA spot is where CC has a cage/few cabs. They have/had a Dallas cage as well I think.
Francisco
I am sure they'll grow out and ride the pony wave when you start exploding in growth.
jarland
The ocean is digital
Wait, so you're telling me that it's better that he simply did it to completely lie and didn't even bother with the actual employment papers to make it a half lie? How is that not worse than what I stated? I wonder what the IRS has on file.
Whatever though, not my problem
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Ryan doesn't target the budget market. Wiresix has always been his playground to get into the budget game. It likely makes a very small hunk of his bottom line and is more so for trolling I feel
I've had service with him in the past. Back when I ran a decent sized torrent site and DAIRC full time I had 2 dedi's with him. Service was solid, as was the network considering it was just Telia + Old-Cogent.
Francisco
drmike
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Don't even bring up the tax authorities. Buffalos hate taxes. Shh.Wait, so you're telling me that it's better that he simply did it to completely lie and didn't even bother with the actual employment papers to make it a half lie? How is that not worse than what I stated? I wonder what the IRS has on file.
Whatever though, not my problem
I like this:
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drmike
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I know who that managing partner is...Waiting for the answer. First name begins with N.
Never mind the masturbation job on Jere. Telling him he had equity. Stripping him of that. Word is bird that when CC "rescued" after the hack that jonBi took that other portion of the company. Doubt your LLC has shares and paperwork indicating other ownership.
Wasn't BuffaloVPS ran by Jere? Right after that other Adam fellow disappeared into the dark of night.
The old lowendadmin was up your asses. You know why. Quack quack.
Never mind the masturbation job on Jere. Telling him he had equity. Stripping him of that. Word is bird that when CC "rescued" after the hack that jonBi took that other portion of the company. Doubt your LLC has shares and paperwork indicating other ownership.
Wasn't BuffaloVPS ran by Jere? Right after that other Adam fellow disappeared into the dark of night.
The old lowendadmin was up your asses. You know why. Quack quack.
