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ColoCrossing's own fraud and issues notwithstanding - there's nothing wrong with doing business with them.  What a lot of us are taking issue with, are GVH-Jon's blatant lies about not being affiliated with CC.  All of the "look at me, pay attention to me" crap he's pulling with the ridiculous...

That's how you know the whole thing is a sham to begin with... he's "paying for expansion" with "an influx of new sales", rather than money already available.  That is, if you believe his story about not being a CC bankroll.

It's also worth clarifying what those numbers actually mean, for folks that aren't familiar with actual accounting. That image is for an income forecast report - not actual revenue, but what he potentially could make in one year on the assumption that every plan was renewed with no...

Don't worry, he'll very shortly claim that those were "old numbers" from before "the massive growth in sales".  Once he figures out how to rig WHMCS reports, and tries to convince us that he doesn't have an 80% overhead, we can probably expect a new screenshot showing millions :P

All the prior times were Liam, from what I recall.  There never really was any reason to doubt his word - LE* hasn't seen honesty like his since Scott.

I love it when people makes claims they can't prove :3

I'll add to the tinfoil.  The amount of fraud and abuse I've had to deal with on a daily basis dropped drastically once we left those slums.  I couldn't begin to tell you how many stolen CCs we had pushed at us from Velocity IPs.

That's what Spamhaus is for.

...so, here you have someone genuinely willing to listen to what you have to say, and ready to be given examples of unfair treatment - but instead you just give a cop out?  You do nothing but undermine what you tried to achieve with that. C'mon Mun, at least stand by your convictions.  You were...

An open group would probably be what you're after.  Haven't messed with Facebook in ages.

Mind clarifying that?  I'm still waiting to see if you're just stating the obvious (that quite a few people on this board are friends with the owner and his staff), or if you're implying that they treat things unfairly.  And if so, an example of this unfairness would be great, as I've seen...

Of course people like us.  Despite my very abrasive nature, Fran is a very outgoing and helpful guy - quite a few other providers never would've kept their heads above water without his help.  Which he not only gave for free, but never bragged about or rubbed noses over. Or maybe it's the fact...

That's the exact point I've been making.  You're not as big as you claim, or seem to think you are.  You can take a number like... 20, and triple it to express your "rapid growth".. but at the end of the day, 60 is still less than 100.  Far less than 1000, 5k, and so on. Trying to be like Chris...

Funny, I would've assumed that the very definition of popularity would stem from client opinion; not your fabricated figures. Putting that aside - why are you even assuming you're in the same market as us?  You're not our competition - people come to us for quality and performance, not the...

Hi Fabozzi, almost didn't recognize you there without your trademark bellend behavior. On a more serious note - I'm expressing why I don't believe you.  You want to compare popularity?  Explain why we kept coming up either in the top 3 or as the runner up for the provider poll over there with...

I love the logical disconnect.  You seriously think that LET represents even a fraction of a market that existed long before Biloh started using his daddy's chequebook to launch his schemes? You can have 50 nodes and be one of the largest providers there.  Popularity is easily purchased for...

That line of BS may work on clients with no experience on the selling side of this industry, but trying to pass lies like that to people that actually know how the market works?  Just insulting. If you were actually getting even a quarter of the numbers that you would need to account for the...

XD  Your fault for clicking my links :3

I would love to start sending Verizon invoices.  Especially for all of the spam that originates from their network.

Well, there is a difference between bragging about imaginary dollars, and doing something productive with real ones :P