Licensecart
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Never will that happen lol kids will be kids.
GreenValueHost / GVH and HostNun banned for operating shill ring
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drmike
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Now the next question is how long until he goes offering no dollar VPS on some lowly shit hardware? I thought the industry was going to get a longer vacation from his insanity. Oh well.
k0nsl
Bad Goy
Well, I suppose this ain't news to most: GreenValueHost to relaunch VPS and dedicated hosting services.
PS:
Who writes that gobbledygook for him? :wacko:
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Who writes that gobbledygook for him? :wacko:
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
The specifics are both Dujke and Jonny are bullshit artists extraordinare and less than 24 hours after Duke made that statement a press release was issued announcing GreenValueHost Inc is back in the VPS business. The only question is who actually controls GVH now: my bets are that CC acquired a controlling interest in GVH Inc a couple of months ago in exchange for forgiveness of debts and brought in Duke to do clean up work.
The entire "Duke to the rescue" story appears to have been just another in the long line of GVH publicity stunts (the "rescue" story was laughable even before today's press release when you consider that already under XFuse Solution's inept management customers had their data breached when a former employee KSubedi/Nexim took the current SolusVM database in February, and customers were spammed by both KSubedi and XFuse Solutions).
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Wow, so Duke puts on a show here for us while working on helping GVH relaunch their services. It's sad that Duke has stooped this low as to work for Johnny (I would have at least expected there be a partnership involved but now it's apparent that Johnny calls the shots here, good luck XFuse clients for becoming GVH customers instead of the other way around).
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Well, to be fair, he did the same thing on WHT to the mods and in under 24 hours logs/etc were put up saying he was pending a buy and that he had been planning such for a while. I'm surprised the mods didn't smite him on the spot but hey, one doesn't question the gods. He's been a nice person to talk and his head isn't securely lodged in his ass so I'm trying my best to not throw him under a burning bus (though he did that to himself already).
Anyway, anyone remember Jonny's I get the feeling that Biloh & Co were simply 'delaying' the invoices and now the day of reckoning has come and they're $XX,XXX in the hole.
I just can't make sense of why Duke would invite the devil back into his home after he's presumably spent so much time/energy trying to fix the brand.
I mean, to this date there's still no official 'buy' of the old customers announcement, it's currently coming off as a 'partnership' of sorts more than a 'buy'.
Lets not forget this isn't the first time GVH has dumped their clientbase because they completely fucked their pricing and had to quickly dump whole product lines to try to right the ship. He did it to his shared clients early last year and he'll do it again if things slow down.
I'm all for people building businesses (though I have warned many that hosting is way too volatile to just randomly jump into), but you should know when to put the dog down and stop making it suffer.
Francisco
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Dylan
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Nice, perhaps, but let's be honest here: a smart businessperson would not have entangled their company with GVH in the first place.
At this point the puppet show isn't even entertaining, it's just making me sick to my stomach and it's not from all of the popcorn. I bet a lot of people who donated to Duke to help get him back on his feet are really regretting it now.
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drmike
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Damn!
That will teach me to go sleep at night and not stay glued to the intertubes like usual.
April 15th:
"Now the next question is how long until he goes offering no dollar VPS on some lowly shit hardware? I thought the industry was going to get a longer vacation from his insanity. Oh well."
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Well it came to be again.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]In case no one noticed, Lowendtalk let Jonny back on and re-activated his account in past two weeks. So that certainly has something to do with all of this. You don't have major issue resolve tight time line like this just magically and be unrelated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]I'd throw his "press release" into content analysis, but Freud and other mind shrinks would laugh in their grave and cause a global catastrophe.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Xen, bahaha, he's going to bring Xen to market. Don't know about that being so viable. Must be some new kid sidekick he found who wants to work for free VPS or something and has a hankering for Xen.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]This press release sounds like shitola concoted by a high schooler.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]8 we, 1 I. The press release is all about Jonny.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Soo....[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]What is all this about? Being Biloh's sock puppet. Surely GVH had a bundle of cash owed to Biloh at least indirectly (via HVH). How will Biloh ever get that money? Won't get it by GVH banned, unable to sell on LET, and offering craptastic shared hosting. So reinstate GVH on LET (hello Mr. Kossen how are you liking that?) and allow Jonny to go back to selling VPS (something he never perfected prior and mass horror).[/SIZE]
That will teach me to go sleep at night and not stay glued to the intertubes like usual.
April 15th:
"Now the next question is how long until he goes offering no dollar VPS on some lowly shit hardware? I thought the industry was going to get a longer vacation from his insanity. Oh well."
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Well it came to be again.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]In case no one noticed, Lowendtalk let Jonny back on and re-activated his account in past two weeks. So that certainly has something to do with all of this. You don't have major issue resolve tight time line like this just magically and be unrelated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]I'd throw his "press release" into content analysis, but Freud and other mind shrinks would laugh in their grave and cause a global catastrophe.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Xen, bahaha, he's going to bring Xen to market. Don't know about that being so viable. Must be some new kid sidekick he found who wants to work for free VPS or something and has a hankering for Xen.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]This press release sounds like shitola concoted by a high schooler.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]8 we, 1 I. The press release is all about Jonny.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Soo....[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]What is all this about? Being Biloh's sock puppet. Surely GVH had a bundle of cash owed to Biloh at least indirectly (via HVH). How will Biloh ever get that money? Won't get it by GVH banned, unable to sell on LET, and offering craptastic shared hosting. So reinstate GVH on LET (hello Mr. Kossen how are you liking that?) and allow Jonny to go back to selling VPS (something he never perfected prior and mass horror).[/SIZE]
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
I can see such a thing happening, but informally.
CC/HVH has been gracious and allows some companies to run up invoices. They don't want to deal with implications of a direct hostile takeover, nor do they want to deal with thousands of customers put offline due to payment shortfall. So it's frog in water slow boiling approach. But someone seems to have turned up fire on the burner this week
I am looking forward to GVH's first Lowendbox offer, cause methods of mass money making for that brand are doing the swirl post-flush.
Hello Guys,
Alright, so if you read the "press release" (lol) you'd know that Jonny wants to start selling VPS and Dedicateds. I allowed it for 2 reasons.1) Jonny owes me money. 2) He is buying servers from me. The fact that he is buying servers from me is very simple. If he buys them from me, he's paying for them monthly. If he doesn't, he gets suspended. VPS and Dedicated Pricing won't be that cheap shit you've seen in the past.
Regarding the "partnership" claims and stuff, it wasn't the plan and still isn't. Basically I took over all the client base at this point. All the dedicated, shared and VPS customers. Jonny started fresh and he picked up a few clients here and there. I was asked about allowing him to sell VPS and Dedicateds and I didn't want to because he'd be competing with me which would go against our agreement. He wants to start a "premium" side of GVH so we discussed it and the agreements are simple. He's selling Xen VPS at a reasonable price and DDoS protected Dedicated Servers at a premium. If he doesn't sell, he doesn't sell. Doesn't really make a difference to me.
Jonny's VPS and Dedicated line pricing will be under my thumb so to speak. We aren't seeing the stupid shit he was doing previously. There will be no stupidly priced plans. Do I run GVH? LOL No. Do I want to run GVH? No. Why did I do this? Well, he owes me money and this is just a simple way of getting that money paid.
Jonathan has NO contact or login details or anything for the previous customers. They are completely XFuse Solutions, LLC. Jonny doesn't work for XFuse, I wouldn't be that stupid. Jonny and Lance, yes Lance is a real person, want to continue GVH and basically I am giving them the opportunity to try again. I believe with my help, Jonny can not be the spazzz he was before. If he is, then he'll go to shit again quickly and that'll be it.
Calling for a ban for me is stupid. It's just speculation from some of you that makes people upset without knowing all of the facts. I guess that's what these communities are.
Fact is, plans change on a daily basis. If Jonny doesn't do things right, he'll go away again. Since I took over the older clients, he wasn't really doing many stupid things (with the exception of his 1 Year Money Back Guarantee) and I've discussed things with him. Hopefully he sticks to his words and does right. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But the fact is I will get paid and if I don't, he goes under again. No worries on my part. But I can tell you this for a fact, GVH isn't anything that I want to run, I just want to make as much money as possible... Wahahaha... Hopefully you guys caught that joke, if not, lighten up.
Alright, so if you read the "press release" (lol) you'd know that Jonny wants to start selling VPS and Dedicateds. I allowed it for 2 reasons.1) Jonny owes me money. 2) He is buying servers from me. The fact that he is buying servers from me is very simple. If he buys them from me, he's paying for them monthly. If he doesn't, he gets suspended. VPS and Dedicated Pricing won't be that cheap shit you've seen in the past.
Regarding the "partnership" claims and stuff, it wasn't the plan and still isn't. Basically I took over all the client base at this point. All the dedicated, shared and VPS customers. Jonny started fresh and he picked up a few clients here and there. I was asked about allowing him to sell VPS and Dedicateds and I didn't want to because he'd be competing with me which would go against our agreement. He wants to start a "premium" side of GVH so we discussed it and the agreements are simple. He's selling Xen VPS at a reasonable price and DDoS protected Dedicated Servers at a premium. If he doesn't sell, he doesn't sell. Doesn't really make a difference to me.
Jonny's VPS and Dedicated line pricing will be under my thumb so to speak. We aren't seeing the stupid shit he was doing previously. There will be no stupidly priced plans. Do I run GVH? LOL No. Do I want to run GVH? No. Why did I do this? Well, he owes me money and this is just a simple way of getting that money paid.
Jonathan has NO contact or login details or anything for the previous customers. They are completely XFuse Solutions, LLC. Jonny doesn't work for XFuse, I wouldn't be that stupid. Jonny and Lance, yes Lance is a real person, want to continue GVH and basically I am giving them the opportunity to try again. I believe with my help, Jonny can not be the spazzz he was before. If he is, then he'll go to shit again quickly and that'll be it.
Calling for a ban for me is stupid. It's just speculation from some of you that makes people upset without knowing all of the facts. I guess that's what these communities are.
Fact is, plans change on a daily basis. If Jonny doesn't do things right, he'll go away again. Since I took over the older clients, he wasn't really doing many stupid things (with the exception of his 1 Year Money Back Guarantee) and I've discussed things with him. Hopefully he sticks to his words and does right. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But the fact is I will get paid and if I don't, he goes under again. No worries on my part. But I can tell you this for a fact, GVH isn't anything that I want to run, I just want to make as much money as possible... Wahahaha... Hopefully you guys caught that joke, if not, lighten up.
From my understanding, he isn't allowed to post offers there either. I don't think we'll be seeing any posting there from him for services for a while. I think it'll only be WHT for now. Like I said, he's trying to go legit lolI can see such a thing happening, but informally.
CC/HVH has been gracious and allows some companies to run up invoices. They don't want to deal with implications of a direct hostile takeover, nor do they want to deal with thousands of customers put offline due to payment shortfall. So it's frog in water slow boiling approach. But someone seems to have turned up fire on the burner this week
I am looking forward to GVH's first Lowendbox offer, cause methods of mass money making for that brand are doing the swirl post-flush.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Jonny has never gone away. He did stop offering VPS, but just went taco loco on offering unsustainable shared hosting probably nested inside rented VPS instances.
He has gone away from vpsBoard (banned) and LET (banned until a week or two ago). Unsure why LET would let the littler pecker back on there considering Kossen prior was red-faced and deliberate about GVH-Jonny being gone. It's a strange turn of events to say the least - his being back on LET.
Now if WHT could make it a trio ban, then he may go away.
If he's not offering VPS on LET, bahaha, well, that's his only viable marketplace with sympathy buyers/anarchist haters - he's going to sell little.
Here's my MILLION DOLLAR question ----
With all the providers out there, cheap dedicated servers, diverse networks, etc. what has GVH remixing spit with Xfuse? Jonny has track record of buying the cheapest GARBAGE to string together an offering. Meaning price is solely his focus. So based on that, how can Xfuse dictate sustainable and non insane offers by GVH? I mean outside of calling his parents or something...
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Hxxx
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Lets just close the thread and put to rest the drama. I have to admit that publication/announcement was ridiculous if not embarrassing, that is the worst part of it.
The guy was banned
WHMCS hacked
DDosed
He even was about to be suicided.
Here it is kicking, trolling the whole community and/or communities. The guy is invincible. So lets not waste time on that.
The guy was banned
WHMCS hacked
DDosed
He even was about to be suicided.
Here it is kicking, trolling the whole community and/or communities. The guy is invincible. So lets not waste time on that.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Plenty of miles left on this beat down teenage hooptie.
and @Hxxx his list of legendary fubars is even longer. Almost suicided twice. Probably in Fraudrecord for stunts. Offered 100TB plans for crazy no money. Migrated locations like 15x. Had IPs revoked, probably multiple times. Midnight migrated customers across the the ocean. Combo'd folks into Avotons. ON and on and on.
Classic outcome where you offer services from sales - pure sales volume without knowing the capability of your hardware and comparing post sales cleared money vs. cost of your rented everything.
Jonny should stop offering hosting and get into content creation instead.
and @Hxxx his list of legendary fubars is even longer. Almost suicided twice. Probably in Fraudrecord for stunts. Offered 100TB plans for crazy no money. Migrated locations like 15x. Had IPs revoked, probably multiple times. Midnight migrated customers across the the ocean. Combo'd folks into Avotons. ON and on and on.
Classic outcome where you offer services from sales - pure sales volume without knowing the capability of your hardware and comparing post sales cleared money vs. cost of your rented everything.
Jonny should stop offering hosting and get into content creation instead.
Munzy
Active Member
@XFS_Duke, I requested the ban of you because you are nothing more then a lying sack of shit at this point. Isn't it convient that not a day ago you were saying we were not going to see GVH in the market for a long while, now look. Your words here should, and do mean nothing.
I do think a ban of you from this community is still reasonable and correct due to the fact that you are "acting" as a puppet master on GVH, thus affiliated with it. You may say you aren't in your post, but as you said you have your thumb on him, thus automatically saying you are involved.
In any case, I find what you did here today to be one of the lowest rungs of BS ever.
I do think a ban of you from this community is still reasonable and correct due to the fact that you are "acting" as a puppet master on GVH, thus affiliated with it. You may say you aren't in your post, but as you said you have your thumb on him, thus automatically saying you are involved.
In any case, I find what you did here today to be one of the lowest rungs of BS ever.