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Hostress, LLC has acquired GreenValueHost v2 Clients and domain.

telephone

New Member
I would make a Worst of the Web-Hosting Industry video but I do like LET and their community even though half of them are pricks and live in 3rd world countries.. they are still some very smart people leftover there. GIANT_CRAB for example.


Plus, the video would be about CVPS/CC not LET anyways. I'm just scared I'd miss a lot of facts since I just found about this. Someone else needs to do it..
I'll leave all videos to Duke and yourself. Now if you wish to make an infographic, then I'll definitely check it out! But I'm not going to watch a 15min+ video about <insert 2-3 letter acronym>. 
 

Dillybob

New Member
I'll leave all videos to Duke and yourself. Now if you wish to make an infographic, then I'll definitely check it out! But I'm not going to watch a 15min+ video about <insert 2-3 letter acronym>.
Yes, I know it was a bit long but I had to touch on each WHT scam benefit. I probably could of done it faster without me rambling you're right. I just don't make videos that was my first time. I just downloaded ShareX and started to record, piece stuff together
 
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AnthonySmith

New Member
Verified Provider
Sorry Duke but your full of shit, you were used willingly or not (if not you should have known better) as a CC/HVH Shill and I believe you knew that.

I called it months ago and gave you the benefit of the doubt, you proved me right, you knowingly take the brunt for a few months then passed the clients to a CC backed company, exactly what you said was not going to happen.

Scum.

@mods Is there any plan to Ban them all?
 
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Vega

New Member
That holy grail of all psychological disorders; 'DID'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
 
This is how it started:



This is a more recent recap / wrap of situations:
Out of boredom, I did read through that and it was quite interesting. Between GVH(which I've heard about on WHT ad naseum) and ColoCrossing, not to mention the EIG drama you hear about and Godaddy, it makes it so difficult for me as a customer with none of the experience and knowledge you guys here, WHT and LET have because we don't know the inside scoop. It's why I am making it a mission to be more active on these forusm so I can learn about this host or that host...

It is what has made me a bit wary about joining up with this host Psychz Network(PhotonVPS/YardVPS) just because of some stuff I heard despite them seeming very cool.

It's quite scary as a customer knowing we're giving our data and trusting our sites with people who are nefarious :D

However the psychology major in me was definitely intrigued and entertained by the threads ;)
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Sorry Duke but your full of shit, you were used willingly or not (if not you should have known better) as a CC/HVH Shill and I believe you knew that.

I called it months ago and gave you the benefit of the doubt, you proved me right, you knowingly take the brunt for a few months then passed the clients to a CC backed company, exactly what you said was not going to happen.

Scum.
Actually, I think both him and Thomas are clowns and should apply for jobs at Ringling Brothers.  Duke/XFuse Solutions supposedly took ownership of the domain greenvaluehost.com earlier this week and then sold it to Hostress a few days later but the WHOIS doesn't reflect that.  The nameservers on the WHOIS were changed yesterday to HVH's nameservers but that is the only change that has occured with the WHOIS this week.  If somebody had access to the registrar account to change the nameservers why didn't they change the ownership info on the domain?


whois greenvaluehost.com

 

Whois Server Version 2.0

 

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered

with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net

for detailed information.

 

   Domain Name: GREENVALUEHOST.COM

   Registrar: ENOM, INC.

   Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 48

   Whois Server: whois.enom.com

   Referral URL: http://www.enom.com

   Name Server: NS1.HUDSONVALLEYHOST.COM

   Name Server: NS2.HUDSONVALLEYHOST.COM

   Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#OK

   Updated Date: 18-jun-2015

   Creation Date: 16-jul-2012

   Expiration Date: 16-jul-2016

 

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:51:49 GMT <<<

 

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currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration 

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Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for 

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Registrars.

 

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Domain Name: GREENVALUEHOST.COM

Registry Domain ID: 1734158253_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com

Registrar URL: www.enom.com

Updated Date: 2015-03-09T12:05:06.00Z

Creation Date: 2012-07-16T18:13:00.00Z

Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-07-16T18:13:00.00Z

Registrar: ENOM, INC.

Registrar IANA ID: 48

Domain Status: ok https://www.icann.org/epp#ok

Registry Registrant ID: 

Registrant Name: LANCE JESSURUN

Registrant Organization: GREEN VALUE HOSTING, INC.

Registrant Street: 200 W NORTH ST PO BOX 972

Registrant City: NORMAL

Registrant State/Province: IL

Registrant Postal Code: 61761

Registrant Country: US

Registrant Phone: +1.8557869288

Registrant Phone Ext: 

Registrant Fax: 

Registrant Fax Ext:

Registrant Email: [email protected]

Registry Admin ID: 

Admin Name: JONATHAN NGUYEN

Admin Organization: GREEN VALUE HOSTING, INC.

Admin Street: 200 W NORTH ST PO BOX 972

Admin City: NORMAL

Admin State/Province: IL

Admin Postal Code: 61761

Admin Country: US

Admin Phone: +1.8557869288

Admin Phone Ext: 

Admin Fax: 

Admin Fax Ext:

Admin Email: [email protected]

Registry Tech ID: 

Tech Name: JONATHAN NGUYEN

Tech Organization: GREEN VALUE HOSTING, INC.

Tech Street: 200 W NORTH ST PO BOX 972

Tech City: NORMAL

Tech State/Province: IL

Tech Postal Code: 61761

Tech Country: US

Tech Phone: +1.8557869288

Tech Phone Ext: 

Tech Fax: 

Tech Fax Ext: 

Tech Email: [email protected]

Name Server: NS1.HUDSONVALLEYHOST.COM

Name Server: NS2.HUDSONVALLEYHOST.COM

DNSSEC: unSigned

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]

Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646

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Version 6.3 4/3/2002

 

Same story on the gvhclientarea.com domain name: no change to the WHOIS data this week (last change was back in April)


whois gvhclientarea.com

 

Whois Server Version 2.0

 

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered

with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net

for detailed information.

 

   Domain Name: GVHCLIENTAREA.COM

   Registrar: NAMESILO, LLC

   Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1479

   Whois Server: whois.namesilo.com

   Referral URL: http://www.namesilo.com

   Name Server: NS1.GVHCLIENTAREA.COM

   Name Server: NS2.GVHCLIENTAREA.COM

   Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited

   Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited

   Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

   Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited

   Updated Date: 08-apr-2015

   Creation Date: 01-mar-2015

   Expiration Date: 01-mar-2016

 

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:06:10 GMT <<<

 

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the 

registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is 

currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration 

date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring 

registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to 

view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

 

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database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and 

automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or 

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Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for 

information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information 

about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not 

guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide 

by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only 

for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data 

to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass 

unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, 

or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes 

that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation, 

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prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to 

use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or 

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domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right 

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Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign 

reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. 

 

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and

Registrars.

 

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit 

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Domain Name: gvhclientarea.com

Registry Domain ID: 1906352672_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com

Registrar URL: https://www.namesilo.com/

Updated Date: 2015-06-13

Creation Date: 2015-03-01

Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-03-01

Registrar: NameSilo, LLC

Registrar IANA ID: 1479

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]

Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6024928198

Reseller: GreenValueHost

Status: clientUpdateProhibited

Status: clientRenewProhibited

Status: clientDeleteProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registry Registrant ID: 

Registrant Name: Jonathan Nguyen

Registrant Organization: Green Value Hosting, Inc.

Registrant Street: 200 W North St PO Box 972 

Registrant City: Normal

Registrant State/Province: IL

Registrant Postal Code: 61761

Registrant Country: US

Registrant Phone: +1.3124362204

Registrant Phone Ext: 

Registrant Fax: 

Registrant Fax Ext: 

Registrant Email: [email protected]

Registry Admin ID: 

Admin Name: Jonathan Nguyen

Admin Organization: Green Value Hosting, Inc.

Admin Street: 200 W North St PO Box 972 

Admin City: Normal

Admin State/Province: IL

Admin Postal Code: 61761

Admin Country: US

Admin Phone: +1.3124362204

Admin Phone Ext: 

Admin Fax: 

Admin Fax Ext: 

Admin Email: [email protected]

Registry Tech ID: 

Tech Name: Jonathan Nguyen

Tech Organization: Green Value Hosting, Inc.

Tech Street: 200 W North St PO Box 972 

Tech City: Normal

Tech State/Province: IL

Tech Postal Code: 61761

Tech Country: US

Tech Phone: +1.3124362204

Tech Phone Ext: 

Tech Fax: 

Tech Fax Ext: 

Tech Email: [email protected]

Name Server: ns1.gvhclientarea.com

Name Server: ns2.gvhclientarea.com

DNSSEC: unsigned

URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-06-19 07:06:16

 

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apply to us (or our computer systems). The compilation, repackaging,

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this policy. We reserve the right to modify these terms at any time.

 

 

 

Domain Registration Services provided by Green Value Hosting, Inc. (GreenValueHost)

 

Visit us today at www.greenvaluehost.com

 

...and the domain tacvps.com still has Duke/Xfuse's info...

I guess Thomas didn't learn his lesson about the importance of making sure WHOIS info is kept up to date even after his domain digthemine.com was temporarily suspended for invalid WHOIS info when an ICANN complaint was filed 2 years ago.  :rolleyes:

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edited to add: Toadyus  on LET posted:

You can't / won't be trusted by anyone at LET. Good Luck....you'll need it.
Good luck will definitely be needed if the people on LET aren't buying the BS since Hostress and GreenValueHost offers can't be posted on WHT by Thomas because WHT suspended both his previous IDs ugvps and digthemine in early 2014 for a multiple account violation.  
 
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toadyus

Article Submitter
hahaha the guy is a joke, this whole thing is a joke. How they think it's "OK" to just pass around people's personal information is shocking. I'm glad I never got on the GVH train I knew it was going to be a disaster from the start.
 

joepie91

New Member
Your information is sorta messed up.

Firstly, TacVPS was owned by Brian Oliver, never sold to anyone and he was my business partner in the beginning. I have had the domain since 2012 when it was transferred from Brian's registrar to the company owned one. 

Secondly, when I picked up the GVH clients, I wanted to put them under XFuse, it didn't pan out. There was too many issues resulting in my dev environment so I did not do it. I instead pushed it to a lingering domain name, TacVPS. I picked them up so they didn't get dumped like a bad habit. We all know that happens and I didn't want it to happen to them. I've also said this many times. When Jonny said he was killing GVH, I said I wanted the domain name. I never wanted the customers or website or any of that, just the domain name. I then spoke to Thomas Dale about it and he would take them. From there, that deal was done. 

Lastly, unfortunately, I was fed up with dealing with crap everyday from people who were supposed to be helping me. I made a lot of progress from where the GVH clients were prior to me taking over. Example, severely degraded servers were fixed or replaced, abusers were removed (which is some reason for some of the hate, some of them were LET and vpsB members), spammers were removed as well and the entire structure cleaned up over time. The debt, the debt, the debt. What more can I say? The debt was higher than I expected when I pulled this stuff in. I went from $12k in debt to CC because of Jonny's crap, to around $7k after making a ton of payments to HVH. Sadly, after they got Jonny and Lance to agree to paying around $5k back, they wouldn't remove the debt from the account, which would have left me with around $3k or so to pay back. I put every dollar I got back into HVH, licenses and so forth to make this work for the customers. I've dealt with all the stress, bills and talking from forum members who fail to remember me before this issue happened. People say I was a scammer the entire time and they obviously don't know me and only use this situation to jump to a conclusion that just shows some peoples short minds. I've NEVER scammed anyone. I've tried to help as many people as possible. That's what I do and that's how I am. Plain and simple. I came to an agreement with Thomas to take the clients after he consulted with Biloh and Ernie about it. Not really sure of his deal with CC, but that's not my business. Once I finish doing things I have to do, XFuse Solutions, LLC will have NO GVH/TacVPS/Hostress or whatever data anywhere on any property owned or used by me or any of my staff, past or present. I will not use the customer data unless the customer specifically asks me to move them over. That is all. There is nothing shady. Me and Thomas have a signed agreement regarding this transfer, but people insist otherwise, that's your prerogative if you want to think that way. I've been as open and honest with you guys as possible.
And I already pointed out that that is a lie.

I've stayed mostly quiet on this matter, to give you a chance to fix things, because I don't like jumping to conclusions. But when you start making claims that obviously contradict other 'official' information and fail to disclose why there is a discrepancy, then that ends, and you just become yet another wagon hitched to the caravan of story-twisting, half-truth-telling, quietly-acquiring CC clowns.

You screwed it up yourself.
 
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ChrisM

Cocktail Enthusiast
Verified Provider
For the people saying Hostress is linked to Colocrossing.. Although the ones who run it may have once worked for them I don't believe they have any connections to them now.. 

I didn't really read the thread just my prediction from talking to them personally. 
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
For the people saying Hostress is linked to Colocrossing.. Although the ones who run it may have once worked for them I don't believe they have any connections to them now.. 


I didn't really read the thread just my prediction from talking to them personally.

Quotes from Duke Xfuse about  CC's involvement in the sale to Hostress

Duke said: "I came to an agreement with Thomas to take the clients after he consulted with Biloh and Ernie about it."

 

Duke said: "I believe Thomas has the full backing of ColoCrossing and HVH at this point and he's actually further along with them than I would have ever been I guess"
@raindog308 said

Domain Name: GREENVALUEHOST.COM
Probably the biggest news about the domains is that the ownership info hasn't been changed and Jonny and Lance are still listed as the owners, and their email addresses are still listed as the contacts.  I seem to remember UGVPS losing the UGVPS.com domain when they neglected to update the contact info.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Short on time and thanks for everyone looking.

The domain contacts better get updated in the next few days and not with the usual privacy masking hide it stuff.  It's a bad omen as-is, but this is all new just happened and I am sure @tdale has been drowned with the mess he just inherited (GVH customers are known for heavy ticket load).

I am outreaching to @tdale to see to it this gets done.   Guys are right to dig and distrust and Tdale is going to deal with time in the grill and if he's straight on this stuff he'll be all the better for the applied heat.  I don't  like the whole CC-tie-in at the end like any sensible person.  

I'll let the folks defend themselves and say their piece.
 

AnthonySmith

New Member
Verified Provider
Alright, those are the replies I felt were needed. I know a lot of you guys on here think I have no knowledge of how to run a business, I appreciate that. There are a few issues with that however. I've been store manager, assistant manager, supervisor and shift leaders for large companies such as Pep Boys Auto, Giles Nissan, Arvixe, LLC and my last job before my accident I was a Assistant Manager with Cycle Gear. I have learned a lot about what it takes to run a business from the entry level stuff to the higher up.
All that experience yet according to tdale 75% of all the loss/un-sustainability is due to abandoned dedicated servers that neither you or JN ever noticed but continued to pay the bills for yourselves during the point when it is only natural to be the most skeptical and thorough when going through things.

Honestly if that is true then your not fit to safely flip burgers never mind run a hosting business, if that is not true then one of you is not being honest. 
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
For all the daft cnnts smacking their lips on LET....  Paragraphs are your friends kids.   Part of the problem on LET in having a debate, taking up a matter is that things actually need to exceed 140 chars. 

Love that I am a flip flopper.  Yeah I endorse CC-associated companies, WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER.  Whole lot of delusional folks over on LET, as they play in ColoCrossing's sandbox.  If guys over there dislike ColoCrossing so much and don't trust ColoCrossing then why are they over there posting non stop and driving up ad views and income to ColoCrossing?  Do what the rest of us have done and LET detox.

Something I'll put out there that I've been told is that @tdale inherited GVH debt.  I don't have exact number but it is north of $10k.  Supposedly he's on the line to repay the incurred debt.  I'd like to see paperwork that confirms such or something.  But even that doesn't prove or disprove CC's puppet arm in the background.
 

msp - nick

Member
Verified Provider
For all the daft cnnts smacking their lips on LET....  Paragraphs are your friends kids.   Part of the problem on LET in having a debate, taking up a matter is that things actually need to exceed 140 chars. 

Love that I am a flip flopper.  Yeah I endorse CC-associated companies, WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER.  Whole lot of delusional folks over on LET, as they play in ColoCrossing's sandbox.  If guys over there dislike ColoCrossing so much and don't trust ColoCrossing then why are they over there posting non stop and driving up ad views and income to ColoCrossing?  Do what the rest of us have done and LET detox.

Something I'll put out there that I've been told is that @tdale inherited GVH debt.  I don't have exact number but it is north of $10k.  Supposedly he's on the line to repay the incurred debt.  I'd like to see paperwork that confirms such or something.  But even that doesn't prove or disprove CC's puppet arm in the background.
I like what you said there.

Also, I am pretty sure someone posted that it was only $5k of debt that GVH racked up.. Or did I miss-read something?
 

MartinD

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
Something I'll put out there that I've been told is that @tdale inherited GVH debt. I don't have exact number but it is north of $10k. Supposedly he's on the line to repay the incurred debt. I'd like to see paperwork that confirms such or something. But even that doesn't prove or disprove CC's puppet arm in the background.
see that last paragraph? That's where people find issues. It would be logical for them to come to the conclusion that you're involved given the amount of information you appear to have that has to come from 'inside' these outfits.


I'm not saying that's the case, but it certainly looks that way and explains why some people have the views they do.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I like what you said there.

Also, I am pretty sure someone posted that it was only $5k of debt that GVH racked up.. Or did I miss-read something?
The numbers vary. Nature of a reseller heavy business is that your owe amount isn't what it is until accounting is properly and completely done.  Setting people with floating due dates and billing on every day of the month and other bad business processes make such a shop an entire nightmare.

GVH allegedly owed $10k+ roughly at point that Duke inherited the mess.

The amount fluctuates month to month like I said based on what it is and how active the books are kept.

My understanding that this $10k amount remains.

$4-5k was a divided amount that Jonny GVH was to pay for his split of the debt originally.  Unsure if CC is letting GVH Jonny off with remained he owes unpaid (i.e. $4-5k MINUS any payments he may have made).
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Something I'll put out there that I've been told is that @tdale inherited GVH debt.  I don't have exact number but it is north of $10k.  Supposedly he's on the line to repay the incurred debt.  I'd like to see paperwork that confirms such or something.  But even that doesn't prove or disprove CC's puppet arm in the background.
Duke's version (page 5 of this thread) puts the current inherited debt for that account around $3K

The debt, the debt, the debt. What more can I say? The debt was higher than I expected when I pulled this stuff in. I went from $12k in debt to CC because of Jonny's crap, to around $7k after making a ton of payments to HVH. Sadly, after they got Jonny and Lance to agree to paying around $5k back, they wouldn't remove the debt from the account, which would have left me with around $3k or so to pay back.
If the remaining debt on that account really is only $3K and he had to "consult with Biloh and Ernie" about the acquisition (rather than just writing a check for the $3K and paying the debt off and getting CC off his back) then something tells me his LET claims that he is "here to stay this time" are a little bit premature...
 
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XFS_Duke

XFuse Solutions, LLC
Verified Provider
All that experience yet according to tdale 75% of all the loss/un-sustainability is due to abandoned dedicated servers that neither you or JN ever noticed but continued to pay the bills for yourselves during the point when it is only natural to be the most skeptical and thorough when going through things.

Honestly if that is true then your not fit to safely flip burgers never mind run a hosting business, if that is not true then one of you is not being honest. 

So, when I took over the clients. Jonny had a ton of "Bargain Bins". A large amount of them were unsold and I ended up cancelling them as I went. There were over 200 services on that account. I cancelled over 100 services over the past few months. The ones left were being reviewed and going to try and be sold. I appreciate your feedback though. I am also sorry if you feel the way you feel.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's great to see other providers jumping at the chance to talk crap about another provider without knowing the truth. 
 
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