Q4 2013 Lowendtalk Top Provider Poll Results

[drmike]

Hmm, interesting guess that means Cloudshards + Fliphost votes will combine

If the counting folks are being consistent, yes.

I am wondering if they count ChicagoVPS (CVPS) + GreenValueHost (GVH) since this intricate financial interest by the house in both. 

 

[MannDude]

Meh, oh well. That's why that place is... that place.

 

[Awmusic12635]

If the counting folks are being consistent, yes.

I am wondering if they count ChicagoVPS (CVPS) + GreenValueHost (GVH) since this intricate financial interest by the house in both. 

Just curious, would you happen to have the CS numbers?

 

[drmike]

Hmm, interesting guess that means Cloudshards + Fliphost votes will combine

So under the logic applied in Liam's post = yes = combo happy meal for Cloudshards + Fliphost.


Provider Points Votes
Cloudshards 10 4
Fliphost 21 13
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31 17


By themselves CloudShards ranked 28th and Fliphost 10th.

Combined = 31 points.  Same amount as-is for Digital Ocean which is 7th. 

So combo company = 7th (absent comboing votes for other companies).

 

[Awmusic12635]

So under the logic applied in Liam's post = yes = combo happy meal for Cloudshards + Fliphost.


Provider Points Votes
Cloudshards 10 4
Fliphost 21 13
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31 17


By themselves CloudShards ranked 28th and Fliphost 10th.

Combined = 31 points.  Same amount as-is for Digital Ocean which is 7th. 

So combo company = 7th (absent comboing votes for other companies).

Awesome thanks

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

I still can't read that name without thinking 'Cloudsharts'

 

[drmike]

Now one of my big points with this is....

LET combines votes for a provider's many shell company / fronts.

LEB treats the offers / entities as separate / different.   Mostly to circumvent the time between posting offers nagging rule for their friends.

 

[mikho]

In all fairness, each brand should be calculated one by one.


If I have a backupsy for backups I wouldn't want my vote to be counted towards winity since I've never used it.


Doesn't feel right.

 

[perennate]

In all fairness, each brand should be calculated one by one.


If I have a backupsy for backups I wouldn't want my vote to be counted towards winity since I've never used it.


Doesn't feel right.

Yes it could just as well be the same company offering two different product lines. It wouldn't make sense to combine these companies in LEB posts and then separate them out in voting.

 

[mikho]

Yes it could just as well be the same company offering two different product lines. It wouldn't make sense to combine these companies in LEB posts and then separate them out in voting.

In one way it makes sense, there is one person who represents multiple brands who sends in a bunch of offers to LEB.


But you as a customer often only sign up with one product.


If you combine all votes, you actually vote for the people who owns the brands, not the brand itself.


This is my point of view, not saying it is the right way to do it.


I could also go as far as suggest posting offers from completly different companys in the same post. Perhaps as a common denominator of the week/month?

 

[drmike]

So from the unaudited totals:

551 total votes cast.

218 different voters.

So LET Q4 2013 poll results were decided by a mere maximum of 218 people.

RamNode the top vote getter received 101 votes or 1-in-every-5.5 votes...

Prometeus (just that brand) received 50 votes or 1-in-every-11 votes....

Iniz received 36 votes or 1-in-every-15.27 votes...

 

[mikho]

So from the unaudited totals:


551 total votes cast.


218 different voters.


So LET Q4 2013 poll results were decided by a mere maximum of 218 people.


RamNode the top vote getter received 101 votes or 1-in-every-5.5 votes...


Prometeus (just that brand) received 50 votes or 1-in-every-11 votes....


Iniz received 36 votes or 1-in-every-15.27 votes...

Care to count the number of votes in previous polls? If you have nothing better to do.

 

[drmike]

Care to count the number of votes in previous polls? If you have nothing better to do.

Oh, I have plenty better to do.    Counting the priors will probably happen in due time.

This quarterly got attention/love cause of the new vote inflation racket and my prediction that it was to inflate the totals for the Top 3 vote getters to make them look more in-line / consistent with prior contests.  I was right   Big drop off in voters and total votes to the top 3:

Q4 2012 - 148 + 138 + 99 = 385


Q1 2013 - 235 + 180 + 154 = 567


Q2 2013 - 187 + 132 + 57 = 376


Q3 2013 - 150 + 126 + 60 = 336

Q4 2013 - 101 + 50 + 36 = 187 (counting pure votes cast like prior)

Q4 2013 Top 3 total will obviously be increased as they lump #2 Prometeus votes from their shell companies.

50 (Prometeus) + 6 (iwStack) + 2 (IperWeb) + ??? = 58 total Prometeus votes...  or as they now count it:

146 (Prometeus) + 12 (iwStack) + 2 (IperWeb) + ??? = 160 total Prometeus votes ---

Q4 2013 = 244 (RamNode) + 160 (Prometeus) + 74 (Iniz) = 478  (new counting schema)

 

[drmike]

My favorite vote, and there were several contending, had to be GreenValueHost voting for HudsonValleyHost (their special "partner" / upstream / who deals with them).

For those at home, raw data on votes cast (not the inflate fivver schema - pure votes):

rank	name	votes
1	RamNode	101
2	Prometeus	50
3	Iniz	36
4	BuyVM	29
5	Digital Ocean	25
6	Backupsy	23
7	Crissic	19
8	BlueVM	13
9	Fliphost	13
10	WeLoveServers	12
11	Hostigation	11
12	Inception Hosting	9
13	QuickPacket	9
14	EDIS	9
15	Lowendspirit	9
16	Torqhost	8
17	OVH	8
18	GreenValueHost	7
19	DotVPS	7
20	CatalystHost	7
21	ChicagoVPS	7
22	IPXCore	6
23	OpenITC	6
24	iwStack	6
25	Hosthatch	6
26	TacticalVPS	6
27	MyCustomHosting	5
28	VPSDime	5
29	FTPIt	5
30	drServer	4
31	Cloudive	4
32	HTTPZoom	4
33	BandwagonHost	4
34	CloudShards	4
35	Onepoundwebhosting	3
36	SecureDragon	3
37	MaximumVPS	3
38	FAPVPS	3
39	ProviderService	3
40	Castlegem	3
41	Fusioned.net	2
42	MiniVPS	2
43	RoseHosting	2
44	SupremeBytes	2
45	IperWeb	2
46	OneAsiaHost	2
47	Highspeedweb	2
48	FitVPS	2
49	StarryDNS	1
50	Universev	1
51	Gametown Projects	1
52	CloudAtCost	1
53	Swiftway	1
54	Colorhost.de	1
55	AlienLayer	1
56	Winity	1
57	AnyNode	1
58	Bitaccel	1
59	CDN77 	1
60	Hudson Valley Host	1
61	Increhost	1
62	Flipperhost	1
63	James Hadley	1
64	EndofReality	1
65	VolumeDrive	1
66	Leapswitch	1
67	Kazila	1
68	lkoula	1
69	Filemedia	1
70	Crowncloud	1
71	Errantweb	1
72	SouthBendVPS	1
73	KGOVPS	1
74	Terafire	1
75	cloud3k	1
76	KVMShell	1
77	Contabo	1
78	Ultimate Hosting	1
79	BuyMyVM	1
80	sshVM	1
81	PhoenixVPS	1
82	Burst.net	1
83	ServerCrate	1
84	AllSimple	1
85	Xensmart	1
86	GinerNet	1
87	DelimiterVPS	1
88	McMyHost	1

 

[jarland]

I believe the grapes are sorrow.

Lol love the username.

 

[maounique]

I am not sure what you mean @drmike.

If you say that before people were given fewer points you are wrong. It is now that the points are less.

The 1st ranked in the vote would get 3 points, the second 2 and the third 1, total of 6 points per voter.

Now they are given 5 points per voter but they can distribute as they please, one per provider (voting 5 providers which is quite common since many people have VPSes from many providers) or all for only one provider.

I didnt vote this time at all.

As for more geographically diverse getting more points, if that would be true, Edis would have won by default and last time when prometeus didnt have other locations would have lost by default. It is obviously not so. Also Ramnode doesnt have that many locations either.

Aggregating on brands is normal, you vote for provider, not for the web site.

While I agree on LEB the websites are listed, mostly, whether you have a cloud or storage VPS from a provider is irrelevant, if the product is good and your tickets were handled well, then you will vote the provider, not the product. There is no such thing as an independent product, it is only as good as the provider is.

 

[Spr]

Hey guys, take it easy All this should be taken more or less for fun. It's nice to say some nice words about hosts we use, express gratitude, but to take it as some serious race to death? Come on

There's a lot of "what if.." but does it really matters? Some of my personally favourite hosts does not make it even in top30 but who cares. Its still nice to name them there, to say something positive and this is it.

btw. drmike (damn I hate to use this nickname for you remembering good ole' doc) good work on analyzing data. It's really cool to see it. Thanks.

S.

 

[drmike]

The 1st ranked in the vote would get 3 points, the second 2 and the third 1, total of 6 points per voter.

Now they are given 5 points per voter but they can distribute as they please, one per provider (voting 5 providers which is quite common since many people have VPSes from many providers) or all for only one provider.

So, for how long has this been going on Mao ?  

1st = 3 points

2nd = 2 points

3rd = 1 point

BTW:  Glad to have you on board / still here.

Makes sense that some folks were allocation 6 points and others were saying WTF.   I NEVER realized this

This makes number far more troubling basically.  Because there has been a point inflation "issue" for quite a while, just done a tad differently.  Both though, inflate total points.

What I care about and everyone else kind of should is how many votes were cast, how many votes did each provider, what does the average vote point allocation end up looking like and ability to compare real numbers across providers vs. the end points.

 

[budi1413]

Congratulation Prometeus, Uncle Sal and Mao.

 

[maounique]

So, for how long has this been going on Mao ?  

.

I am not sure, but Liam started it, I would say an year or so.

TBH, it gives more flexibility and is adapted to the place.

Many people there (most ?) have VPSes from 3+ providers and it is fair to give them more chances to rank those. It also gives a chance for the new/smaller hosts to get some points. I am not sure here, but I would think this place has also people with multiple VPSes from different providers besides the "staple provider".