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Reserving Disk Space you Purchased from the Oversold VPS providers

jarland

The ocean is digital
The invention of E5 made many host generous of ram. is ram cheap for e5?
ECC memory is crazy expensive. A lot of server vendors seem to get better deals on them and pass it along if you build a full system with them. I may not be looking at the best places since we don't colo anything at the moment though, but everything I see is pretty outrageous if you were to compare to the cost of desktop memory.
 

Marc M.

Phoenix VPS
Verified Provider
Overselling disk space is also possible with KVM by thin provisioning your storage arrays. Of course, providers here are not doing it, as all of us are simply using traditional LVMs. However one company that does it is Digital Ocean. So I think that this tutorial would apply to them as well.
 

jcaleb

New Member
ECC memory is crazy expensive. A lot of server vendors seem to get better deals on them and pass it along if you build a full system with them. I may not be looking at the best places since we don't colo anything at the moment though, but everything I see is pretty outrageous if you were to compare to the cost of desktop memory.
How much would a dual e5 with 128gb cost?
 

jcaleb

New Member
That depends on a lot of factors. I would say starting from 500 Eur and going up. Ours cost some 1000 but are supermicro blades. With disks, raid with bbu and all, would be about 2 k.
I thought it's something like 6,000 USD.
 

wdq

Quade
Last I checked the E5's start at around $500 a piece. A motherboard for the dual processors is another $500. Sixteen 8GB sticks of registered ECC memory would be $70/stick.

Put all that together and you're looking at about $2600 excluding the hard drives, extension cards, and chassis.
 

Marc M.

Phoenix VPS
Verified Provider
Put all that together and you're looking at about $2600 excluding the hard drives, extension cards, and chassis.
@wdq not that long ago I was looking into building SSD cached servers running KVM for the low end market. The builds were based on a single Core i7 3820, Supermicro or ASUS motherboard, 64GB non-registered DDR3, 6 x 2TB drives, 2 x 256GB SSDs, LSI RAID card, CacheCade Pro 2.0 and so on. Each build would have been around $3200. When we're talking a proper dual Xeon E5, registered DDR3 and so on, the price can climb really fast to $5000/$6000 per node. Of course if build properly a single E5 server is much better value than two of those i7 3820 servers, which isn't even 100% server grade hardware. Needless to say that I've killed the idea pretty fast.
 

maounique

Active Member
You can buy them second hand for as low as 500 Eur.

But you can also get good deals on new ones if you buy special blades in a 3u case, without disks, for the FC setups. Only the board and cpus are some 1000+ eur, added some fc card, redundant psu and all that add to each blade, for some 6 of them in a 3u you end up paying close to 2000 Eur per piece.

Special price for old customer. No raid cards, no drives at all. Without taxes too :p
 

NodeBytes

Dedi Addict
I've been buying my servers second hand for a while now. Since they're just for my own use I don't need the best hardware, I just need stable hardware. I am currently in the process of buying an older Dell server as well.
 

maounique

Active Member
Actually, if it worked for a while it is unlikely to fail, you have more failures in newer ones than in 2-3 years old.

Hidden defects or bad design will be ruled out after a while.
 

jcaleb

New Member
based on above, owning hardware is very steep. may costing 3k-6k.

maybe thats reason hosts just sign up with quickpacket for 50 bucks a month and 16GB ram. you can be host in no time.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
maybe thats reason hosts just sign up with quickpacket for 50 bucks a month and 16GB ram. you can be host in no time.
 

Well, no offense to QPS, but the L5420's are out there for a song these days.  $150-300 depending.  Might need to put the harddrive on top of that and still in the $200-400 range, maximum.   ROI on a $50 plan could be 6 months on the low side. 

That's why the 5420's and similar series are so darn popular.  Nothing wrong with them.  I buy them myself.

I question why folks go the $50/mo route when  buying this isn't much.

When it comes to $2k+ servers, yeah, renting dedicated units is all the rage.
 

Magiobiwan

Insert Witty Statement Here
Verified Provider
L5420's are still pretty decent machines. I have 1 at WSI for my MC server. I also have a dual X5355 server doing media encoding and it handles it pretty darn well.
 

Kruno

New Member
Verified Provider
Code:
#!/bin/sh
currentdisk=$(df -h | tail -n 2 | head -n 1 | awk '{print $4}' |  awk -F"G" '{print $1}')


if (( $(echo $currentdisk) < 10 )); then
/bin/echo "$(hostname) is almost out of disk space" | /bin/mail -s "$(hostname) CHECK DISK SPACE" [email protected]
fi

 

Above script will email server admin when a Node has less than 10GB of available disk space left. Put it to hourly cron and that's it, will definitely come handy if you are overselling disk space. 
 
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