Full Article: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
My only response to this is: lol.
Seagate faces class-action lawsuit over 3TB hard drive failure rates
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Full Article: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
My only response to this is: lol.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Seagate has been lots of fails back to at least 1TB days.
I won't buy any Seagate drive and haven't in past 3 years. Last few I bought all failed way prematurely.
Might be a flawed legal basis (i.e. Backblaze usage data) but the point stands and the bad press Seagate will get, will slump their sales. That's all bastard companies like that understand... Usually only way to correct mess.
I won't buy any Seagate drive and haven't in past 3 years. Last few I bought all failed way prematurely.
Might be a flawed legal basis (i.e. Backblaze usage data) but the point stands and the bad press Seagate will get, will slump their sales. That's all bastard companies like that understand... Usually only way to correct mess.
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IANAL, so honestly my guesses are the same as bullshit so don't really mind me.
But I would speculate they could potentially make a case that (as this was during the Thailand flood and drive crisis) Seagate knew they were selling bad drives.
This however would require a proper investigation and probably would require a fair amount of resources. Also IANAL so that might not actually be an argument, but who knows.
But I would speculate they could potentially make a case that (as this was during the Thailand flood and drive crisis) Seagate knew they were selling bad drives.
This however would require a proper investigation and probably would require a fair amount of resources. Also IANAL so that might not actually be an argument, but who knows.
Anyone remember the ST3500320AS and other related drives? It was another epic fail from Seagate. We had to spend some significant $$$$ on data recovery on one of those drives. I think they also had another bad model in the generation of drives between these two.
Their enterprise drives are a bit better, but we still see quite a few failures with those too.
I will say that Seagate's RMA process is the best of all of the drive manufacturers, but that's about all they have going for them lately.
Their enterprise drives are a bit better, but we still see quite a few failures with those too.
I will say that Seagate's RMA process is the best of all of the drive manufacturers, but that's about all they have going for them lately.
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Jared Newman | PCWorld | Feb 2, 2016
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The story behind the story: As we’ve noted in the past, Backblaze’s data may not represent the average consumer experience. The company puts its drives through rigorous use, which may in turn put greater wear on drives that are designed to spin down and save power when they’re not needed. That’s not to say Seagate isn’t at fault, but the case isn’t so cut-and-dry given the many variables that can factor into hard drive failure.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028981/storage/seagate-slapped-with-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-hard-drive-failure-rates.html
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The story behind the story: As we’ve noted in the past, Backblaze’s data may not represent the average consumer experience. The company puts its drives through rigorous use, which may in turn put greater wear on drives that are designed to spin down and save power when they’re not needed. That’s not to say Seagate isn’t at fault, but the case isn’t so cut-and-dry given the many variables that can factor into hard drive failure.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028981/storage/seagate-slapped-with-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-hard-drive-failure-rates.html
Darwin
Member
Not a lawyer too, but most customer and contract law have rules that can be used to sue when one part deliberated omitted or falsified information. It won't be easy, but I bet the MTBF of these disks can be proved to be worse then what was announced.
As you, I too bet that these are the grounds for that suit
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
Where does the line form for the class action on the 1.5TB ST31500341AS? (<--word of warning, if you see a 1.5TB drive on Hetzner's serverbidding.com run the other way because it's probably one of these). NewEgg reviews: 3 stars, 2741 reviews
Once upon a time (the 1990's) I bought Seagate almost exclusively, but now...nope.
DomainBop said in the LET CestPit years ago:
Hetzner's ServerBidding is serving up barbecued hard drives today: 51°C-55 °C temperature, 22,000+ hours, 3 of the drives had errors, and drive #4 with 5500 reallocated sectors was toast according to smartctl. ST31500341AS=Crap drives. Server returned within an hour of receiving it.
Once upon a time (the 1990's) I bought Seagate almost exclusively, but now...nope.
It looks as though the case is based on:
1) Higher failure rate than advertised
2) A high proportion of replacements were also defective
https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/seagate/pressrelease/seagate-hard-drives-consumers-file-national-class-action-lawsuit-against-seagate-for-defective-hard-drives
1) Higher failure rate than advertised
2) A high proportion of replacements were also defective
https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/seagate/pressrelease/seagate-hard-drives-consumers-file-national-class-action-lawsuit-against-seagate-for-defective-hard-drives
I have 4 of the Seagate 3tb drives. Two were returned under warranty after dying in less than a year. Right now, 3 of the 4 are dead (including the replacements). No longer under warranty. The 4th is on it's last leg.
The warranty return process was really easy, but now they're out of warranty.
It would be nice if the suit could get Seagate to replace out of warranty drives, preferably with a different model.
The warranty return process was really easy, but now they're out of warranty.
It would be nice if the suit could get Seagate to replace out of warranty drives, preferably with a different model.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Let us hope. I've been stung by Seagate so many times that I won't take a free drive at this point.
They need to get held accountable.
They have to last a certain while before they fail. They are having a majority of them failing prematurely which is not good.
- Daniel
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Just guessing, but I think they shipped R&D out of the States / severely decreased their presence in the States.
Like most tech, there is this swirling of the drain to bring costs down while selling insane volumes / dollars... Two uneven sides subject to cause a break in the middle of the see saw... That's what I feel we continue to see with Seagate.
Seagates 8TB drive already has some spectacularly crap reviews. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XS423SC
"Seagate providing 8TB of data storage for the week long life of your drive."
"Seagate providing 8TB of data storage for the week long life of your drive."
Non-standard mounting screw holes would make that drive difficult to use in many applications.