The truth about Mao and BuyVM

[maounique]

If youa re going to make up stories, at least get your facts straight. You used to be better at fabrications lost your touch ?

Francisco blackmailed me kindergarden style (I am going to tell on you to your daddy) threatening to hack Prometeus (my) SolusVm because he wanted me jobless. Just re-read his PMs above he sent in the 15th of december. The post you are quoting is from the 29th. So, again I brought Prometeus into this, or was Francisco 2 weeks earlier ?

That was part (the decisive part) of the reason why I came here on his home soil where he has the most supporters (though, sadly, much less today than 18 months ago on LET) so I can call his bluff and make it public, when he will indeed hack it, everyone will know who did it. I said it loud and clear with a time stamp, so this can serve as evidence. It should be enough blackmail is a felony even if nothing bad happened, but I am sure he will go lower and will actually do it, nothing much to lose, it seems, he must be desperate to go this low.

 

[scv]

This thread:



Enough already, guys. If you want to continue spinning your wheels do it in PM. We don't need 11 pages of the same circular reasoning.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

While we've got the tinfoil hats out and are making things up... let's all congratulate @mkpossen, who doesn't participate in the community outside of defending himself in certain threads, for helping confirm an earlier theory:

Guess we've got confirmation now on who's bankrolling Mao's twisted little campaign

On a more serious note - see how easy it is to twist coincidence and fabricate a possible story?  This is exactly what you've been doing the past two years, Mao.  I make a comment about TOR being used for child pornography (a fact you cannot dispute), and you launch into a smear campaign that lasts well over a year.  Francisco trolls you to try and give you a taste of your own medicine; to show you what you're doing to others - and you use it as an excuse to drag your employer into a petty squabble.  Worse off, if your claims of "Sal considered Fran a friend" are true, then you are the direct reason for that tie to be severed.

And still, we have absolutely zero proof to any of your claims.  But by all means, go ahead and continue your little storytime - at this point all you do is discredit yourself.

Enough already, guys. If you want to continue spinning your wheels do it in PM. We don't need 11 pages of the same circular reasoning.

Alas, if only it were so simple.  This isn't WHT where we can flag a thread, and mods will demand proof of accusation or shut it down.  He's going to keep spinning his lies, so the only real choice is to keep countering them.

 

[maounique]

And still, we have absolutely zero proof to any of your claims.

Indeed.

 Do you really think everyone here is one of your TL;DR proud backers ? Some people know how to read, you know, dont get intimidated when the proof is a bit long I even "highlighted the highlights" of the proof. No to mention that Francisco is the one making baseless wild claims that everyone backed my ban on LET even tho the same day there was a thread asking why I was banned and voicing opinions against it. Poor TL;DR crowd had to start scratching their heads since they had no idea because they never read what I was posting ahd started to make wild guesses or launching bluffs that people which read immediately called, so they had to say the proof has been deleted. perhaps the banned people can delete stuff hehe

They had to make up an excuse that the ban was for 48 hours to stop the peaople from asking more questions. It wasnt so and we have even an explanation here.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Some people know how to read, you know

Sure, until they have to deal with your rambling.  I understand the ESL barrier, but I've seen children with better forumulation.

At the end of the day, your only "proof" is stories you tell.  You have no hard evidence backing your claims, and no amount of illiterate textwalling will change that.  But don't worry... I'm sure somebody out there believes you.  Maybe.  Until they realize that you conveniently ignore every logical counter-post, and immediately cry about something else to distract attention away.

Offer's stll open:

When you're ready to discuss matters like an adult, I'll be more than happy to sit down with you and provide clarification on your misunderstandings.

 

[maounique]

Sure, until they have to deal with your rambling. 

Actually they only needed to read Francisco's PMs, even without my replies, they are still backing up what everyone which knows how to read was aware of for a long time. The others will never be convinced, you will always have your backing.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Have you even read the replies and commentary on this thread? O_ô

Or, as usually, are you simply ignoring everything that doesn't suit your interests?  It's pretty obvious you're just clapping your hands over your eyes/ears and going straight to your happy place at this point.  Be careful Mao, this is how religion and superstition starts.

 

[maounique]

Yes, people didnt read the proof. It is as recent as it can be (you are very lucky older threads on LET got truncated by the "clusterfuck"), no need even to start looking for older proof many people dont know about. It is enough to read Francisco's PMs and at least half of my story is checked 100%, the rest can be deducted.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Yes, people didnt read the proof. It is as recent as it can be (you are very lucky older threads on LET got truncated by the "clusterfuck"), no need even to start looking for older proof many people dont know about. It is enough to read Francisco's PMs and at least half of my story is checked 100%, the rest can be deducted.

Half?  You've made so many errant claims, that single PM is not even a 10th of it.  Again mate, you need to go actually read people's reactions to those screenshots - best case, harmless trolling; worst case - poor choice of words to someone bad with English.

You've proven nothing... and I take it from your last response that you aren't even going to try and find proof for your other claims.  So, after all of that, thank you for validating my continued statements that you're doing nothing but making up stories as you go.

 

[Francisco]

Why would I apologize to Sal? Because his worker has a grudge issue with the world? I did the favor of starting things in PM on LET since that's where he started things with UGVPS.

My 'friendship' to Sal has been long strained because he won't tell Mao to shove it. Any time I feel Aldryic's out of line or pissing on someone too hard I'll ask him to cool it and just let it be. He always does as I ask. Sal on the other hand fully backed all of Mao's comments, actions, etc, so it's a done deal.

Mao's child porn tantrum doesn't stop and Sal backs it with "Aldryic was mean to him (2 years ago)!!". Really? Come on now. If he wants an apology then he'll have to apologize for Mao. This won't happen, of course.

We've always been very transparent with everyone with how we operate, costs, contract lengths, upgrades, issues, etc. It isn't uncommon for a ticket reply to a customer to include 2 bodies of text. A TL;DR at the top and a full on nerd break down for the 2nd. If you even read the PM log you'll see an ifstat log showing our BW usage for the area. Mao can sit and dispute all he wants again, but that was from a late night run of it.

Anyway, I'm on some really terrible free internet at the hotel so could someone let me know if Mao said yes or no to them being hacked? Or did he skate the issue?

I'm off to head off to the DC, I'll check back through-out the day as I get time.

Francisco

 

[willie]

Slow motion train wreck... you WANT to stop watching, but can't... opcorn:

 

[wlanboy]

Francisco

Do you really think that the following statement is ok?

Do you realize how insane you look?


You somehow found a way to weave me into that all yet you sit and go on about how you think I'm a nice guy.


If you want to waltz, say so and I'll make sure Sal reconsiders your employment by the end of it.

 

[Francisco]

Do you really think that the following statement is ok?

It makes me out to be a dick but I've had him nipping at me for 2 years. As I said, I have no problem stirring their pot like he's doing to us for 2 years.

You realize that right? We left EGI a year this month and we made the agreement to leave them in the October prior to that. Prior to that we ordered switches that March and setup in CC in June. We knew where the problem was within the first week of being online at CC.

My only contact in SJC at the time was Matt, EGI's old worker, so I couldn't quite ask him how many uplinks they had in 1090. It's only once I was onsite to move did I go hunting around and found their 1090 switch and saw the fiber run.

Francisco

 

[wlanboy]

It makes me out to be a dick but I've had him nipping at me for 2 years. As I said, I have no problem stirring their pot like he's doing to us for 2 years.


You realize that right?


Francisco

Yup - I read through all the quotes (quite a lot of work).

It is like this statement:

No problem.

I'll go provision myself a new VM on your solus in a little bit.

I can understand both sides.

But I have to say that both sides could have handled the situation in a better way.

As far as I understood Mao - these two statements hit him hard.

I know that you did not want to get him laid off and that you did not want to do anything with their Solus instance.

You would not say the same things today, or?

So why not gird up your loins and say that you did not mean it like that?

@Mao

I will take you at your words that this will stop then.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

I know that you did not want to get him laid off and that you did not want to do anything with their Solus instance.

You would not say the same things today, or?

Knowing that it would be taken seriously and blown out of proportion... similar things, but not the same wording.  A better message would've been "We're really tired of having to constantly defend ourselves about the same claims over and over - you can either work this out with us directly, or we'll go over your head if necessary".

Though it's pretty clear now where Sal lies on the issue, so it's a moot point.

 

[mpkossen]

Perhaps you should pay a bit more attention to who dragged him into this in the first place.

I did. Did you? As far as I can tell, is was your boss that pulled him in around Dec 15.

While we've got the tinfoil hats out and are making things up... let's all congratulate @mkpossen, who doesn't participate in the community outside of defending himself in certain threads, for helping confirm an earlier theory:

Guess we've got confirmation now on who's bankrolling Mao's twisted little campaign

Who's making up stuff now? I don't know Mao outside of his alias(es); I wouldn't even know how to bandroll his "campaign". I also said nothing in regards to your battle. I only said something about Salvatore, who was treated unjustly IMHO.

Also, I have every right to post here whenever I want to. It is not yours to judge that. I have an opinion on many things that were said here, but the way you guys treated Sal crossed the line for me.

"Friendly VPS forum" my ass. "Friendly" is selective, I guess.

Why would I apologize to Sal? Because his worker has a grudge issue with the world? I did the favor of starting things in PM on LET since that's where he started things with UGVPS.


My 'friendship' to Sal has been long strained because he won't tell Mao to shove it. Any time I feel Aldryic's out of line or pissing on someone too hard I'll ask him to cool it and just let it be. He always does as I ask. Sal on the other hand fully backed all of Mao's comments, actions, etc, so it's a done deal.


Mao's child porn tantrum doesn't stop and Sal backs it with "Aldryic was mean to him (2 years ago)!!". Really? Come on now. If he wants an apology then he'll have to apologize for Mao. This won't happen, of course.

You need to apologize to him because you dragged him in to a fued between you guys/BuyVM and Mao (as a person). That wasn't right and I hope you know it.

Mao is not Sal's to command. They're independent from each other. I don't know how it works for you, but as soon as my boss tries to tell me to shove it when I'm representing my personal opinion (and stating such), he or she will have definitely crossed a line for me.

 

[mikho]

When airing your personal opinion it will cast a shadow over your workplace, no matter what you think of it. You can not decide what other people think or do depending on what you say/do. By these words I'm not pointing fingers at someone specific, it goes both ways.


And @mpkossen, the child porn part of the TOR discussion has been there since TOR was banned from Buyvm.


I think that one part of what got Mao so fired up was that he felt accused (spelling correct?) when Aldryic said they were removing TOR because of the potential child porn usage that comes with it.


Unfortunatly when there are things invented for a good cause, it will surely be abused by someone who doesn't have good intentions.

 

[MannDude]

"Friendly VPS forum" my ass. "Friendly" is selective, I guess.

Generally, friendly. Maybe it should be changed to 'Unbiased VPS forum' since it seems to attract some unfriendly characters on the rare occasion. (Not you or anyone in this thread). This thread is actually surprisingly civil, all things considered. I'd say this is a relatively 'friendly' disagreement these folks are having here.

11 pages and it hasn't been turned into a meme fest, slander-fest, no one has called anyone anything really bad. I'd say it's the friendliest, unfriendly disagreement I've seen on a VPS forum in a long damn time.

 

[drmike]

"11 pages and it hasn't been turned into a meme fest, slander-fest, no one has called anyone anything really bad. I'd say it's the friendliest, unfriendly disagreement I've seen on a VPS forum in a long damn time."

Yeah we don't do the meme thing here on every thread.  The level of retardation is much lower here than on that old site.  Might have something to do with a little bit mature and often older audience.

I can train the town hoodlums to be summer / holiday hosts and sick them on vpsB if you'd like

Now back to that story... A guy walks into a bar and there is a Romanian and  a Russian...

 

[drmike]

 I don't know how it works for you, but as soon as my boss tries to tell me to shove it when I'm representing my personal opinion (and stating such), he or she will have definitely crossed a line for me.

Glass house syndrome.   Here I threw one...

"my boss tries to tell me to shove it when I'm representing my personal opinion"

How did that go over with oh, say the UGVPS stuff?  Clearly corporate wasn't happy about their "investment" / "customer" being outed as a farce / ID theft / who knows what...

You know and I know there is Maarten the good guy who has a brain and sense and then there is the moderator who for some reason bends over and takes the shove from his superiors, minus the good lube.  Get to shoving back over there.