The truth about Mao and BuyVM

[Aldryic C'boas]

I did. Did you? As far as I can tell, is was your boss that pulled him in around Dec 15.

Who's making up stuff now? I don't know Mao outside of his alias(es); I wouldn't even know how to bandroll his "campaign". I also said nothing in regards to your battle. I only said something about Salvatore, who was treated unjustly IMHO.

Also, I have every right to post here whenever I want to. It is not yours to judge that. I have an opinion on many things that were said here, but the way you guys treated Sal crossed the line for me.

Apologies, I should've done that post in the purple colour (for sarcasm).  I've got nothing against you mate;  I was pointing out how I could pick a couple of coincidences with a loose connection (you admin LET, which is owned by CC, who also dislikes us - a tinfoil hatter could make the assumption that since you posted in this thread, CC was backing Mao).  100% untrue, which is why I added the "making this up as we go" lines.  It was a very silly example to demonstrate to Mao that simply 'making connections' does not make a truth.  Honestly, you're one of the more level-headed ones;  this place would benefit from more of your participation.

Now back to that story... A guy walks into a bar and there is a Romanian and  a Russian...

Now if that Romo happens to be Vlad, we'll drain that bar in a hurry

 

[raidz]

For everyone complaining about this thread: just don't open it.

I am lurker and find this all pretty entertaining. Mao, I have a feeling that only a few people read your novels. You should consider condensing your posts a bit.

 

[drmike]

He says he never had a say in how Joel was running things yet he admits he brought Joel into this, for which purpose I can only guess

Since we are digging up useless stinking corpses, Joel will do.

Who selected Joel to inherit LET/LEB on the community's behalf?   Who made that decision????   Was LEAdmin consulting other folks on this?  I know KuJoe was involved back then and so was Fran.  Shall we claim KuJoe is mister sinister.  Oh no!

 

[drmike]

" I make a comment about TOR being used for child pornography (a fact you cannot dispute), and you launch into a smear campaign that lasts well over a year. "

TOR is a shit network.  No doubt about it.  Same stuff is on the plain vanilla internet too.

Ald's propensity to labeling it a child porn method is factual, but far short of everything it is.

Now BuyVM can/will/should allow / disallow whatever they want on their network, for whatever reason they want.  Someone took a hating to Ald's repetitive assertion about porn.  

Can we rest the TOR portion ?

 

[ChrisM]

What Fran and Aldryic are thinking right now:

 

[Magiobiwan]

On a somewhat related note, there needs to be a sarcasm button on the editor toolbar that automatically applies the purple color for sarcasm.

 

[maounique]

As everyone saw, for a long time I wasnt diging them up on their insults lies and attacks. When Francisco decided to attack Salvatore because I work for him and he thought that he can fire me by blackmailing him, that crossed the line.

So here we are again.

BuyVM is sinking without my help. When they started this trying to prove their network is stellar and there is only the moral motivation they call people names for, they were at their height, the zenith, 90% of LET firmly believed they have a legendary quality, every second thread was hijacked for praising BuyVM, were out of stock permanently.

Then Aldryic decided to go in a shit throwing campaign... The rest is history. They are now out of 2 more datacenters (not that they had none before EGI, every DC was rotten), Joel screwed them up big time (but, again who is to blame, who handed him the keys to give an air of legitimity to their shilling ?).

They are now attacking their competition trying blackmail with hacking threats. While everyone considers that is a legitimate course of action in revenge to my proofs that their network sucks, it is not so and many people will realise that after he will put it in practice. I am sure Prometeus will not press charges for the blackmail, but after he will do the actual damage, we will have another chapter in this saga.

Everyone should note I offered an elegant exit, they will appologise to the third party and do a service to the community by disclosing the exploit. They want to go on and use it, fine, even if we will suffer, that guy must be stopped somehow so he can no longer threaten anyone. He doesnt have anything to gain from it, the people hurt by the exploit wont run to BuyVM, nor will Salvatore fire me, he will do it just to prove he can be an ass which we already know by now.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Still waiting on that proof.  Not that you actually have anything to back your claims up with.

 

[MannDude]

Everyone should note I offered an elegant exit, they will appologise to the third party and do a service to the community by disclosing the exploit. They want to go on and use it, fine, even if we will suffer, that guy must be stopped somehow so he can no longer threaten anyone. He doesnt have anything to gain from it, the people hurt by the exploit wont run to BuyVM, nor will Salvatore fire me, he will do it just to prove he can be an ass which we already know by now.

What exploit?

 

[maounique]

What exploit?

Since he threatens to hack Prometeus's Solus, there must be one he knows. He has been illegally decoding solus and using parts of it in the past so he must have a deep knowledge of it. Anyone remembers how the localhost.re guy appeared when they were launching stallion 2 ?

 

[jarland]

You know there's one thing I got from this entire thread.

Mao, you need to take up drinking. Seriously. Join us. This is called peer pressure. Also, bro, you need to realize just how much of what Francisco says to you is purely to watch you freak out, because it's so easy to make you lose it. I'm not entirely convinced it isn't cultural. I've never been to where you're from, but everyone I've ever met from there takes everything so seriously and personally. Over here, we literally kick each other in the balls and even the guy bent over crying has a laugh about it later.

 

[MannDude]

Since he threatens to hack Prometeus's Solus, there must be one he knows. He has been illegally decoding solus and using parts of it in the past so he must have a deep knowledge of it. Anyone remembers how the localhost.re guy appeared when they were launching stallion 2 ?

Ah, okay. The 'threat' being he said he could provision a VM on a node. I have to agree with others that I think it's likely him just (smuggly) saying, "Yeah, I can go spend a few dollars and have a VPS on your network." and not, "I'm gonna hax0r u"

While Fran and Aldy seem like talented individuals, they don't strike me as people who'd risk their reputation on something so silly.

 

[maounique]

you need to realize just how much of what Francisco says to you is purely to watch you freak out, because it's so easy to make you lose it.

I have been watching this for 18 months. If he does it just for laughs he is probably insane or wishes to close BuyVM and didnt have a better way to end it. He even wants to go visit jails for the laughs.

It could be I have seen many people from there doing absurd things so it could be a cultural thing, you guys are so bored you ick the wasp nest or dance around the bear just for the thrills.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

So apparently now I'm the localhost.re guy, too?

Still waiting on proof of all your lies.

 

[maounique]

Ah, okay. The 'threat' being he said he could provision a VM on a node. I have to agree with others that I think it's likely him just (smuggly) saying, "Yeah, I can go spend a few dollars and have a VPS on your network." and not, "I'm gonna hax0r u"

While Fran and Aldy seem like talented individuals, they don't strike me as people who'd risk their reputation on something so silly.

You havent been reading, it seems, I already disproved that theory. I will do it again for the TL;DR people:

1. We do not have automatic provisioning, so even with the forced conclusion that is a technical matter, it will not work;

2. Does someone hope to make me lose my job by buying more products from my boss ? He would work towards getting me a bonus in this case, after 18 months I finally managed to get this customer... And, sure, peace of mind is mentioned just for the heck of it.

And about their reputation... What reputation ? That they bully everyone ? That all the DCs they were in have a horror story to tell ? That they were abusing LET for shilling ? What's blackmail, blackhat hacking to add, small change for the thrills.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Right, well, this has gone on quite long enough.  Everyone's had a chance to voice their.. opinions on the matter.  At this point it's nothing more than someone with apparently no life wasting our time.  Quite a few times I've asked for proof of any of his claims.  Yet to see anything delivered.

I have a proposal for the moderators.  Since it's quite obvious that he won't end this willingly - call the bluff.  Ask him to provide evidence of his claims.  If you feel his claims are accurate, we'll withdraw from the thread and let him say whatever he likes.  If you feel his claims are baseless, remind him about "keep it civil", and put an end to this mess.  We've all had plenty of time to speak, so this seems like a rather fair way to close it out.

 

[maounique]

OK, call the mods. It worked in the past should work now. I am also interested to see if they will do it.

You should have continued calling names and abusing me, that would have been indeed a reason to close the thread and ban me. It worked on LET.

 

[MannDude]

This is going to continue endlessly until one of you stops replying.

I like Fran and BuyVM, I'm trying not be biased but in our past discussions I've never seen Fran say anything that'd compare to what he said to you Mao. I'll admit that he sounded like a smug asshole in his response to you from those screenshots. (Sorry Fran, ha) I've not seen either of these guys mention anything, even slyly or covertly that would hint to anything like you describe with anyone else or any company. This all sounds like a case of you not personally liking them, and they personally not being super fond of you. There are a lot of us, me including, who have that relationship with other people as well.

You all seem like good guys who just don't like each other but can't let the other one have the last word, if I'm being honest.

 

[MannDude]

OK, call the mods. It worked in the past should work now. I am also interested to see if they will do it.

You should have continued calling names and abusing me, that would have been indeed a reason to close the thread and ban me. It worked on LET.

As I said earlier, the only power Fran and Aldy have over vpsBoard is suspending my VPS for abuse or non-payment. The same as Nick from RamNode where I host things for vpsBoard and DSD, Tim from Hostigation, etc. This site is powered by many providers who I chose because they're ran by people with a good reputation in the industry and who I deem trustworthy. None of them encourage the content on here and are as open to ridicule as anyone else.

Why do you think I'd ban you? Jesus, was LET really such a shit-hole in the past that someone who is simply annoying would be banned? This isn't LET, man. I don't know why you keep thinking you're going to get banned. This forum is ran by modern software. It has the 'ignore' feature built in. Anyone who doesn't want to see the content of another member has the option of 'ignoring' them. This is a great feature for when people lack the self-control to respond to other people they don't like. This way, you simply don't see it.

 

[maounique]

Well, tbh i always had a problem with aldryic, not francisco. That is why I was so shocked by that, for a while I kept thinking if he is really serious and I contemplating the theory of him provisioning a vm by buying it, but no matter what i tried it didnt hold water.

I never expected him to attack Salvatore either, but since he allowed Aldryic to go on rampage against me and encouraged others too in the past this must be his true face he managed to hide for so long.

Everyone who was in so many dcs already and left slamming the door would look a bit suspicious, everyone not BuyVM, that is. They managed to always twist the story in their favour, they are great spindoctors, right, they had everyone so far, but not me, yet. So, they have to silence me somehow, otherwise other people might start to think and read for a change.