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serverian

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    <th width="183" valign="top" scope="row"><p>Forum(coming soon)</p>
    <p>Solusvm(coming soon)</p>
    <p>Billing(coming soon)</p>
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<p class="b">32MB RAM</p>
<p class="b">16MB VSWAP</p>
<p class="b">1.5GB HDD</p>
<p class="b">10Mbps unmetered bandwidth (Free ipv4 ddos protection)</p>
<p class="b">1 core (shared)</p>
<p class="b">Ipv6 only(Nat for ssh only) and port 25 blocked</p>
<p class="b">$1.49/year (Bitpay only) manual activation</p>
<p class="b">order coming soon</p>

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AshleyUK

New Member
Verified Provider
Have you even made sure Solus VM would support one server with 500 VMs, I can just see the whole thing have issues popping up all over the place. Let's just hope your quick on the plenty of DMCA's your going to get. I'm sure people will find ways to still cause you issues with 32mb ram.
 

coreyman

Active Member
Verified Provider
Have you even made sure Solus VM would support one server with 500 VMs, I can just see the whole thing have issues popping up all over the place. Let's just hope your quick on the plenty of DMCA's your going to get. I'm sure people will find ways to still cause you issues with 32mb ram.
Solusvm shouldn't have any problems supporting 100,000 VM's on one server.
 

AshleyUK

New Member
Verified Provider
Solusvm shouldn't have any problems supporting 100,000 VM's on one server.
You host a 100,000 VMS on one node?!

I mean the whole extra layer of software running on the server, people logging into Solusvm probably use more ram than there VM has.


Also I doubt he has factored in the ongoing license cost into his rock bottom prices.
 
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mtwiscool

New Member
You host a 100,000 VMS on one node?!


I mean the whole extra layer of software running on the server, people logging into Solusvm probably use more ram than there VM has.


Also I doubt he has factored in the ongoing license cost into his rock bottom prices.
price has been already accounted for :)
 

luis123456

New Member
Race to the bottom? 32 MB RAM? Mtwiscool, stop witht this farce, we all know you can't sustain it!Better cuddle that nice Pooh bear you have, it is more funnier!
 

AshleyUK

New Member
Verified Provider
price has been already accounted for :)
If you magicly sold out in first month after license would leave you with £39/Month if you split the amount over 12. Which leaves you with basicly nothing at all after server fees.
 

raindog308

vpsBoard Premium Member
Moderator
If you magicly sold out in first month after license would leave you with £39/Month if you split the amount over 12. Which leaves you with basicly nothing at all after server fees.
Well, let's see...

I'm using 1 GBP = $1.72 USD.

Income

500 customers at $1.49 per month = about $750.

I don't know what LibertyAlertBitCryptoPalPay money service he's planning to use, but let's say 3% fee.  So total $727.50 per year.

Expense

Server: He to a deal he was thinking of buying which is 30 GBP/month, or $51.60 per month.  There's also 45GBP ($77.40) setup fee.  He's said he'll cut and run from providers at the first sign of trouble and only wants to pay monthly, but let's take that as his monthly cost.  $51.60 * 12 + $77.40 = $696.60.  Already we are not looking good.

VPS Software: He's said Solus several times so let's assume that's what he's going to use.  With 500 VPSes he's going to need the $8.95/month version I believe.  $8.95 * 12 = $107.40.

Billing Software: If WHMCS, then $15/month = $180/year.  

What else?  

Backups?  None!

Monitoring?  Run it on the same server to save money!

Business incorporation, fees, etc.?  None!

Support staff?  Now you're just being silly.

So grand totals:

Income: $727.50

Expense: $696.60 + $107.40 + $180 = $984.00

Profit: -$256.50

Of course, he probably won't use WHMCS...instead, he'll use The Hosting Tool with some Solus add-on module someone pasted in a forum.  So without WHMCS:

Income: $727.50

Expense: $696.60 + $107.40 = $804.00

Profit: -$76.50

 

Not included:

  • chargeback fees.  Of which there will be many.
  • taxes like VAT if applicable
  • taxes on profits which there won't be any so I guess this can be ignored
  • time away from his paper route, which may cost him in the long run
Let's do the math another way.  If you have $727.50 coming in and subtract $107.40 for Solus and $180 for WHMCS, you have $440.10 left over.  Divided by 12 and that's $36.67 for your monthly hardware lease.  Show me the hardware that can support 500 VPSes for $36.67 per month.
 

AshleyUK

New Member
Verified Provider
Thank you for your input guys i will order the node tomorrow and have the service up within 7 days.


All money is sorted.


please can you guys provide input on http://32mb.club/


Thank You guys.

And again you have just ignored quite clear information which shows your "business plan" is flawed and leaves you in the red when fully sold to the level you want to.
 

luis123456

New Member
Show me the meaning of being lonelyIs this the feeling I need to walk with

Tell me why I can't be there where you are

There's something missing in my heart
I think no one serious will buy your VPS, this would be an abuser's paradise. You're running at a loss here, why not provide 1 GB RAM for $5? That's better.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
 

 

Not included:

  • taxes like VAT if applicable

The majority of low end UK hosting companies don't have to worry about VAT ever...and I mean ever.

If your place of business is in the UK or you live here
You may need to register for VAT, or you may be able to choose to register voluntarily, if you are doing any of the following kinds of business in the UK:

Supplying goods or services within the UK. If your turnover of VAT taxable goods and services supplied within the UK for the previous 12 months is more than the current registration threshold of £81,000, or you expect it to go over that figure in the next 30 days alone, you must register for VAT.
Supplying and delivering goods from another EU country to non VAT-registered customers in the UK. If you sell and deliver goods (or arrange for their delivery) from another EU country to customers in the UK who aren't registered for VAT and don't have to be registered, this is known as distance selling. Common examples are mail order and Internet sales. If the value of your distance sales in the calendar year from 1 January goes over the distance selling threshold, currently £70,000, you must register for UK VAT. You can also register voluntarily, if you are trading below the threshold or you intend to start trading.
 
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luis123456

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It's funny funny fun. Main host hosted on a free hosting service powered by Kloxo and a Digital Ocean $5 VPS?

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.Club Domains, LLC, the Registry Operator for .club, has collected this information for the WHOIS database through an ICANN-Accredited Registrar. This information is provided to you for informational purposes only and is designed to assist persons in determining contents of a domain name registration record in the .Club Domains registry database. .Club Domains makes this information available to you "as is" and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data: (1) to allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone; (2) in contravention of any applicable data and privacy protection acts; or (3) to enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to the registry (or its systems). Compilation, repackaging, dissemination, or other use of the WHOIS database in its entirety, or of a substantial portion thereof, is not allowed without .Club Domains' prior written permission. .Club Domains reserves the right to modify or change these conditions at any time without prior or subsequent notification of any kind. By executing this query, in any manner whatsoever, you agree to abide by these terms. You agree that violation of these terms would cause .Club Domains irreparable injury. In using the WHOIS system, you agree to consent to the jurisdiction of courts of the State of Florida over your person in matters related to your WHOIS query. You agree to consent to Florida jurisdiction regardless of your geographic location at the time of your query or your nation of citizenship. NOTE: FAILURE TO LOCATE A RECORD IN THE WHOIS DATABASE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF A DOMAIN NAME. Contact information: Disclosure of contact data is restricted because of UK and EU Data Protection legislation. The contact details for this contact ID may be available by looking up a domain object in the WHOIS system. The information can also be obtained through the .Club Domains Special Access Service. Visit http://www.nic.club for more details. 
 
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mtwiscool

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It's funny funny fun. Main host hosted on a free hosting service powered by Kloxo and a Digital Ocean $5 VPS?


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Domain Expiration Date: 2015-06-29T23:59:59Z
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>>>> Whois database was last updated on : 2014-07-03T21:18:04Z <<<<<
.Club Domains, LLC, the Registry Operator for .club, has collected this information for the WHOIS database through an ICANN-Accredited Registrar. This information is provided to you for informational purposes only and is designed to assist persons in determining contents of a domain name registration record in the .Club Domains registry database. .Club Domains makes this information available to you "as is" and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data: (1) to allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone; (2) in contravention of any applicable data and privacy protection acts; or (3) to enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to the registry (or its systems). Compilation, repackaging, dissemination, or other use of the WHOIS database in its entirety, or of a substantial portion thereof, is not allowed without .Club Domains' prior written permission. .Club Domains reserves the right to modify or change these conditions at any time without prior or subsequent notification of any kind. By executing this query, in any manner whatsoever, you agree to abide by these terms. You agree that violation of these terms would cause .Club Domains irreparable injury. In using the WHOIS system, you agree to consent to the jurisdiction of courts of the State of Florida over your person in matters related to your WHOIS query. You agree to consent to Florida jurisdiction regardless of your geographic location at the time of your query or your nation of citizenship. NOTE: FAILURE TO LOCATE A RECORD IN THE WHOIS DATABASE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF A DOMAIN NAME. Contact information: Disclosure of contact data is restricted because of UK and EU Data Protection legislation. The contact details for this contact ID may be available by looking up a domain object in the WHOIS system. The information can also be obtained through the .Club Domains Special Access Service. Visit http://www.nic.club for more details. 
That id my own service and it will be moved to a vps soon(this weekend)
 

D. Strout

Resident IPv6 Proponent
Look, fact is, this guy won't be dissuaded. So let him and his winnie the pooh fail epically, then we can heap on the I told you sos.
 
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