Zimmerman found not guilty.... Your thoughts?

MannDude

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For those of you familiar with the case, what are your opinions?

While I think Zimmerman should not have followed or confronted the teen, he was within his legal right to defend himself the way he did and I'm glad to see him walk away from it not guilty. He'll have to live the rest of his life knowing he took the life of another man, which for most would be 'punishment' enough. He acted within the law, and I'm glad to see he wasn't sentenced due to some fear of riots as the main stream media has reported.
 

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For those of you familiar with the case, what are your opinions?

While I think Zimmerman should not have followed or confronted the teen, he was within his legal right to defend himself the way he did and I'm glad to see him walk away from it not guilty. He'll have to live the rest of his life knowing he took the life of another man, which for most would be 'punishment' enough. He acted within the law, and I'm glad to see he wasn't sentenced due to some fear of riots as the main stream media has reported.
I agree with all of what you said.  Zimmerman was explicitly told by the 911 operator to not confront Travyon Martin, instead he did.  That is the only problem/evidence against him.  In my opinion, I believe there was a struggle and it was clearly self defense.  There are many other opinions and speculation, but only Zimmerman knows what truly happened.
 

MannDude

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I agree with all of what you said.  Zimmerman was explicitly told by the 911 operator to not confront Travyon Martin, instead he did.  That is the only problem/evidence against him.  In my opinion, I believe there was a struggle and it was clearly self defense.  There are many other opinions and speculation, but only Zimmerman knows what truly happened.
It should also be noted that 911 operators do not provide legal advice, and there word is merely a suggestion.

Though I agree that he should not have confronted him or followed him, and I am sure in hindsight he wished he had not done so either.
 

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Being from around there, it's certainly weird to have watched it unfold on television. Sanford is not a large town at all.

Anyway, it was a tragedy all around but it would have been, as the defense said afterward, a travesty if he was convicted. Zimmerman may be a scumbag for all we know, but the prosecution was shameful. Despite what the state attorney said during the question/answer session, it was clear that the prosecution was at no point interested in the letter of the law.
 

drmike

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Justice served.   IT pawn fired in the process for hiding/not releasing info to the defense team.   Obama / Justice Department allegedly spent tax money to organize protests earlier in this circus.  Ho hum.  Some sort of divide and conquer race baiting.   Strange since Zimmerman is Hispanic with what seems like a Jewish last name.

I have plenty of popcorn and am waiting for those Twitter fools and their threats to bring the riots.

 Zimmerman was explicitly told by the 911 operator to not confront Travyon Martin, instead he did. That is the only problem/evidence against him. 
What does dispatch know about anything?  

I once had a guy plow into me in downtown rush hour type traffic then nearly run me over leaving the scene. He jumped curbs, took sidewalks, etc.   The whole time my passenger was on the phone with dispatch with full details of the perp.   2 minutes later, entering the "ghetto" and dispatch said to stop following the guy.  Eventually I stopped, and waited for an HOUR for a police cruiser to show up.  That was after flagging down a county sheriff and calling dispatch twice.

Scumbag had no license, no insurance and did $3k in damages.  The city fined him $75 and did nothing else.  Hitting an occupied vehicle and fleeing the scene is supposed to be a fairly serious felony I believe.

Me, I should have kept following him and gave him a case of lead poisoning.

Oh yeah and the guy was whacked out on street drugs (crack or heroin --- never was clear).

Yeah dispatchers are real helpful.   

Police and their imaginary monopoly on civil order and show of force.
 

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There are a ton of examples from Twitter of idiots upset over the verdict.
 

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There are a ton of examples from Twitter of idiots upset over the verdict.
Ridiculous... Taking innocent people's lives because of a verdict.  I knew this whole trial was going to be racially charged from the start.
 
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Manslaughter would have been the appropriate charge, rather than Murder II. Had the prosecution pushed for manslaughter rather than Murder II, they may well have gotten a conviction.
 

MannDude

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Manslaughter would have been the appropriate charge, rather than Murder II. Had the prosecution pushed for manslaughter rather than Murder II, they may well have gotten a conviction.
Facts: Forensics investigator stated there were grass stains on the knees of Trayvon and Zimmerman had grass stains on his back. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who was on top doing the attacking and who was on bottom. Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head from it being slammed into the pavement. Trayvon had broken skin on his knuckles indicating he was punching him. (As well as a history of violence, drug use, and as his text message records would indicate multiple attempts to purchase an illegal gun... Though none of this could have been known at the time).

Zimmerman acted in self defense. You can die from having your head banged against concrete. The type of person who will randomly attack you for approaching them or questioning them is the same type of person capable of much worse than just throwing some punches.
 

drmike

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Ridiculous... Taking innocent people's lives because of a verdict.  I knew this whole trial was going to be racially charged from the start.
Let the urban filth kill and burn their paradises to the ground.

Unsure why sane folks haven't followed the many decades pattern (50+ years) in the United States --- flee the cities you dolts!
 

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And so it begins...


EDIT: These are in Oakland, so I guess its pretty much business as usual.
 
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mikho

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I never understood how public vandalism would help the cause you are fighting for?


The most it will do is make people who know little about the case chose the "other" side because of this idiots.
 

MannDude

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I never understood how public vandalism would help the cause you are fighting for?


The most it will do is make people who know little about the case chose the "other" side because of this idiots.
Well, here is the conundrum. You've got people who believe Trayvon was a kind innocent young man. who are outraged at this big 'white' (not white) man for brutally murdering him. These folks are on Twitter, so very upset, so upset they're wanting to go out and kill 'white boys'.

If that doesn't make sense, good. Because it doesn't. But that's the mindset for some.

"AHH I'm so mad I'm gonna smash this window and burn this flag. That'll show them!"
 

MannDude

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What are they protesting? The police? Zimmerman walking free? I don't know if they know what they're doing anymore.

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mikho

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My guess is that the majority of those walking the streets are young people led by a strong leader who has another agenda then the original case.


What i ment earlier is that in my eyes it will never make me listen to the people who trashes and destroys public property. It is never ok to commit a crime to protest against another crime.


The police is often just the "tool" that carrys out what other has decided, in this case the court.
 

Naruto

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Travyon, played by Jaden Smith, is shown at school, raising his hand in lit class. The wise Hispanic teacher, played by Antonio Banderas, calls on him. Trayvon stand up and recites lines of Shakespeare in a hip, cool, but moving rap. As he sits down Banderas smiles and nods at him with a wise, knowing approval. 

 

Trayvon is seen hanging out after school on the lush greens of the front school yard with his friends, featuring the girl who played Precious, plus a mix of races: a white blonde girl, a Hispanic kid, an Urkel-looking black nerd, a white kid with his hat on backwards. A veritable Burger King Kids Club. 

 

Cut to a dark apartment, where Zimmerman, played by Luis Guzman, is doing pull-ups, with the words FEAR and HATE inked on his knuckles. He then practices shooting his empty gun at himself in a mirror. "You talking to me?" Guzman says. "You in MY neighborhood?" He then sits down to watch Birth of a Nation. 

 

Cut to Trayvon at home, at the dinner table with his parents, played by Jamie Foxx and Maya Angelou. They discuss Tray's future plans of being an airline pilot. "It's a mighty big responsibility," Jamie Foxx says. "Having all those souls onboard." "I know," Jaden/Tray says. "I want to be like Sully some day though." 

 

After dinner his little brother asks him if he can go get some candy and tea. Even though it's raining out, Tray agrees. In slow-mo he zips up his hoody, pulled from the dryer. 

 

Cut to Zimmerman patrolling the streets as rain pours on his uncovered head. He does tuck-and-rolls across neighbors' lawns, pulling out his gun and pointing it at dark shadows. A cat crosses his path and he fires at it. He chuckles mercilessly.

 

"Keep the change," Tray says with a smile to the woman working at the convenience store. With the snacks for his brother he walks out of the store, not before passing by a magazine with Sully on the cover. Tray smiles. 

 

Cut to Trayvon skipping down the sidewalk. A group of multicultural young males is there smoking pot. "You wanna get high?" one asks. "No," Trayvon answers, "then I'll never be able to be a pilot." He continues to skip down the path and eventually enters the condo complex. 

 

As Trayvon turns a corner, a sweaty and enraged Zimmerman emerges from the shadows. "Where do you think you're going, NIGGER?" 

 

Trayvon stumbles on his words and tries to answer but is silenced when Zim cold cocks himself with the gun and starts beating himself on the back of his own head. "Help! Help! Somebody help me!" Zimmerman screams. 

 

"Please sir, I just want to return home to my brother and finish my homework," Trayvon pleads. 

 

"That's too bad," Zimmerman says. He then empties his entire gun cartridge into the baby-faced teen. "It looks like your dog ate it."

 

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Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw-pvCREZTY
 
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OverlordQ

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None of the police that took the stand could ever find any evidence that could contradict at any point any of Zimmermans statements.  Zimmerman stated that he was on his way back to his vehicle to meet the police when Martin jumped him. Zimmerman did not want a confrontation.

On June 26, 2012, the prosecution released the results of a voice stress test performed on George Zimmerman the day after the shooting.[192][193] A voice stress test is a type of test used to measure deceptive or psychological stress in the human voice in response to questions.[194] Zimmerman was asked, "Did you confront the guy you shot?", to which Zimmerman answered, "No." Zimmerman was asked, "Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy?", to which Zimmerman answered, "Yes."[192] The examiner concluded that Zimmerman "told substantially the complete truth" in the examination, and Zimmerman was classified as "No Deception Indicated (NDI)" according to the report
 
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