GreenValueHost becoming ColoCrossing, dumping providers, etc.

[Francisco]

Don't forget, Jonny boy said I make up lies. Oh and so does VPSB as a collective.

ALL A BUNCH OF HATERS

Francisco

 

[texteditor]

Big missed opportunity for opening a big betting pool several months back to see who here accurately predicted what

 

[drmike]

All the GVH stuff saddens me, deeply.   I outreached months ago to help GVH Jonny, when he was emo writing death rolls on LET.  Some of the providers here asked me to intervene.  I told him clearly to be honest and realistic.   I warned him of the hazards of lying and spinning webs like so commonly go on in this segment.  After MANY times of not listening or asking for my input then, as usual, ignoring it, I gave up on him. 

I never monkeyed in his systems or did anything access wise.  I intentionally told him I didn't want access, to know intimate details, etc.   just don't try smoking screening me...  I never charged or billed him a cent... I never took a free anything.

Just last night in PM's with Jonny, I warned him, again:

 

 that dude better be real [the new CEO]
[10:28:41 PM] cause if you are ghosting someone, every rock with that saps name on it is going to get tossed

Low and behold, what I warned about came to be reality.... I didn't partake in undermining the fantasy over on the other site.  I let others stand up and do what they should routinely.   I am grateful for Nekki, and Kossen gets a rare thumbs up from me.

GVH is part of a CC blueprint, at least unofficially....  Seen this crap too many times...  Seen the roll in and back to CC before... Seen some folks pull out and run suddenly from CC....  CC will play the victim card, the back due invoices, etc. for their leverage.  Fact is, normal companies don't do shit like they do controlling, managing, investing in, etc.   They file proper UCC paperwork, they draft real legal documents... In case of financial failure, they get in line in bankruptcy proceeding.

All the posturing is endearing... Kids are cute, but again, this isn't a game...

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Honestly, if nothing else this just goes to show how deeply ingrained CC is in the whole mess.  After all, what other group repeatedly tells bad lies, then writes it off later as "It's all cool, we had to because X".

 

[drmike]

Big missed opportunity for opening a big betting pool several months back to see who here accurately predicted what

Inside joke, some of us informally wager pizzas on random industry stuff...

I don't think folks want to wager with me anymore though

 

[DomainBop]

Dear Jonny Boy,

Thank you for confirming that your buddy  Tyler is using false information on his WHOIS record for Acclaimedhost.com.  I smell a domain suspension if he's as dumb as Tom crystal was and doesn't update it with verifiable information before ICANN acts on the reports.

Signed,

D. Bop

 

[drmike]

I got to say, you have done such excellent work getting all of this together. You agent skills are way ahead. Is good to have people monitoring the industry. Is really necessary.

Ideally the FTC would take note of the industry.   Other agencies including more appropriately on State level should take notice.  Government laziness has been a free meal ticket for unsavory network oprators for too long.

There is ample stuff going on that isn't just name games and 4th shell company.   The spam stuff involves lots of major fraud, drugs, etc.  Same networks/operators are friendly to those DDoS'ing, hacking, etc.  Spare me the freedom of speech parallel and social activism schtick...   I understand it well, but businesses CANNOT and DO NOT engage in such, nor endorse such, unless that is their business..

Recently over on the other site, senior CC people tried to justify their ill behavior as protectionism for their customers - privacy...  I about vomitted when I read it.

 

[MannDude]

Man, I'd sure hate to be the person who helped bail GVH out of debt right about now! Talk about a shitty investment!

 

[drmike]

Man, I'd sure hate to be the person who helped bail GVH out of debt right about now! Talk about a shitty investment!

Bail out would be absorbing invoices and/or deferring payments.

It's no public secret that HVH/CC gives and has given GreenValueHost special pricing others do not get.  A lousy practice I consider price fixing.

So CC/HVH can/will string the payable due.  When he can't/won't pay, they prime pass through dedicated sales.  Seen that in how many CC affiliated companies?

If GVH can't move servers and due money then they after a while do the smooth move in deal for GVH's "own good".   Let Jonny stay on as a manager / public face (or his persona replacement)... to prevent mass defections.. He has a quota and able to make bonuses up and above that...

Fact is GVH can't exist financially anywhere but CC.  That's not privileged info either.  Clear to those that operate a related business and run the numbers regularly.

 

[Francisco]

Fact is GVH can't exist financially anywhere but CC.  That's not privileged info either.  Clear to those that operate a related business and run the numbers regularly.

Didn't Jon write that on the forums somewhere?

I mean, it makes sense. Unless you pay for true dedicated bandwidth, those '1gbit unmetered' deals aren't going to play out smoothly. While there's no figures floating around, I don't doubt Quadra bit him a few times for overages.

He might be lucky in NL since I know they give BW out over there like it's candy.

I dunno. What a fustercluck.

Francisco

 

[catatonic]

He never left, doc. He's posted occassionally under the alias '@notFound', which he kept using after the "I'm leaving this place" speech.

derailing the thread a bit, but is there something that I'm missing about notFound / Fiberoute? Saw their offer from last month recently and  have considered signing up, but can't see any reviews here or on WHT.

 

[drmike]

So, GVH-Jonny has thrown the white surrender flag in the air 'like he just don't care':
 

Due to initial privacy concerns and a verbal non disclosure agreement I was unable to be honest with the situation in it's entirety. I deeply apologize for this and would like to take this opportunity to provide an explanation.
Yes, we do have multiple people working under aliases. Tyler is the real name of both aliases, and yes, he does run AH. Tyler has only recently started working a few days ago, however is actually appointed interim Operations Director to help the company get back in shape.
As he specifically requested to be unpaid and not to receive compensation, he does not benefit from this other than the fact that improving the company would trigger a domino effect that would improve our overall services, which he makes use of. AH and GVH are separate companies, independently operated. Lance remains stable and firm as our CEO, with the 'Operations Director'/COO title being assigned to the member of staff responsible for overseeing the day-to-day operations and making sure the company runs smoothly. As of right now on an interim accord, that is Tyler, or 'Jaroslav'.

So... he admits the Tyler and Jaroslav are the same person...  after fictionalizing the situation, getting busted, having Tyler lying.... 

Tyler/Alan is a GVH customer... Unsure if his whole business is hosted off of GVH or not...     This sheds more light on AcclaimedHost (which Tyler/Alan owns) and their business practices, false perhaps info on their website, etc.

I am going to sit back and drink a tall cool one and watch for a few hours between my leisure....

As far as the database compromise....  There is data out there...  When you hire 3rd world workers with hacker backgrounds, you'd expect this stuff...  I mean $5 is a lot of money to them...

 

[drmike]

derailing the thread a bit, but is there something that I'm missing about notFound / Fiberoute? Saw their offer from last month recently and  have considered signing up, but can't see any reviews here or on WHT.

Start a thread - new thread for this unless there is some relationship.... We can also request adjoining them later if so.

 

[Francisco]

derailing the thread a bit, but is there something that I'm missing about notFound / Fiberoute? Saw their offer from last month recently and  have considered signing up, but can't see any reviews here or on WHT.

*** OFFTOPIC ***

He didn't like how drmike was heavily focused on CC in the early days so it caused quite the fustercluck.

@serverian did the same thing at one point as well but I think he cooled off.

Francisco

 

[Hxxx]

*** OFFTOPIC ***


He didn't like how drmike was heavily focused on CC in the early days so it caused quite the fustercluck.


@serverian did the same thing at one point as well but I think he cooled off.


Francisco

offtopic too:

I do enjoy CC services. Really love the prices and all of that. For me the major let down is providers like GVH, all the drama, kiddy stuff, is really like Francisco said clusterfuck

 

[serverian]

*** OFFTOPIC ***


He didn't like how drmike was heavily focused on CC in the early days so it caused quite the fustercluck.


@serverian did the same thing at one point as well but I think he cooled off.


Francisco

notFound is not Anthony, lol.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

notFound is not Anthony, lol.

Yup, my mistake there, sorry.  Maybe if folks closed or requested deletion for their accounts instead of switching to silly names, some confusion might be averted

 

[SkylarM]

I don't doubt Quadra bit him a few times for overages.

Quadranet forced him into 100TB for $75 on his servers. Total monthly bill of $275 for his services tied with a 6month contract.

 

[MannDude]

 

WebSearchingPro Member


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Ah yeah, HostUS - That one was fun.

I remember when they partnered with GVH - http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/21091/hostus-solutions-ltd-partners-with-greenvaluehost (LET staff hid it of course) - Copy here 

A bit later they "broke up in public" and Mr. Alex started bashing GVH -http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/555892/#Comment_555892

Same day as when I poked jonny about it:

[4/28/2014 8:03:28 PM] DonaldL: alexanderm has been kind of going against you guys today
[4/28/2014 8:03:37 PM] DonaldL: did you break off that relationship
[4/28/2014 8:03:58 PM] Jonny: The "calling off" of the relationship was staged
[4/28/2014 8:04:14 PM] Jonny: His responses lately are staged as well
[4/28/2014 8:04:20 PM] DonaldL: not sure what that means
[4/28/2014 8:04:30 PM] Jonny: They're done on purpose and is not actually what's going on.
[4/28/2014 8:04:41 PM] DonaldL: oh so your still together
[4/28/2014 8:04:45 PM] Jonny: The relationship has never officially been cancelled. He's bashing us on purpose
[4/28/2014 8:04:50 PM] DonaldL: oh
[4/28/2014 8:05:03 PM] Jonny: Because HostUS' sales graphs shown a dramatic drop when it was announced
[4/28/2014 8:05:07 PM] DonaldL: yeah
[4/28/2014 8:05:14 PM] Jonny: And an increase when it was staged to be cancelled

Funny stuff - duping lowendtalk - Just another day in the life of a GVH'er

Kid has dug his own grave, can't climb out of it. Can it finally be filled with dirt now?

 

[WebSearchingPro]

Heh, did a search for #winning in my log - 

[1/31/2014 8:14:33 PM] Jonny: *cough* Fabozzi = my role model totally

[1/31/2014 8:14:37 PM] Jonny: He has a masters

[1/31/2014 8:14:37 PM] DonaldL: ah

[1/31/2014 8:14:42 PM] Jonny: #winning

[2/2/2014 3:42:57 PM] Jonny: Now to ColoCrossing-ize HostUS

[2/2/2014 3:43:03 PM] Jonny: lol

[2/2/2014 3:43:05 PM] DonaldL: #Winning it

[2/2/2014 3:43:10 PM] Jonny: Like fabozzi!

[2/2/2014 3:43:19 PM] Jonny: #winning !!

[2/3/2014 9:21:27 PM] Jonny: #winning on vpsB

[2/3/2014 9:21:30 PM] Jonny: Proved that I wasn't lying - (Honestly have no idea what thread this is, there were 2-3 active GVH threads that day)

[2/3/2014 9:21:53 PM] Jonny: Now all I need to do is start bashing BuyVM on an hourly basis and I can become chris fabozzi

 

Ah, good laugh.. good laugh.