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VPSCorey

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Their IP's will always be worth something.  It's very little paperwork to transfer ip ranges to the new owners and ARIN cares not if the company goes tits up after the transfer.

I've seen a lot of pushing across several industries to get IPv6 deployed asap because they're not getting anymore IP's.  The wireless carriers all have transitioned to IPv6 most LTE connections are using it, your LTE Voice uses it as well.
 
Francisco

Francisco

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FRCorey said:
Their IP's will always be worth something.  It's very little paperwork to transfer ip ranges to the new owners and ARIN cares not if the company goes tits up after the transfer.

I've seen a lot of pushing across several industries to get IPv6 deployed asap because they're not getting anymore IP's.  The wireless carriers all have transitioned to IPv6 most LTE connections are using it, your LTE Voice uses it as well.
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Sure, but that's just mobile where most people figured it'd go first. I'm looking at my phone on Bell (via Virgin) and it's v4 only using a 10.x IP address. I still feel that V4 will be mostly for businesses and or people that want static IP's for games and such.

Francisco
 
coreyman

coreyman

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FRCorey said:
Their IP's will always be worth something.  It's very little paperwork to transfer ip ranges to the new owners and ARIN cares not if the company goes tits up after the transfer.

I've seen a lot of pushing across several industries to get IPv6 deployed asap because they're not getting anymore IP's.  The wireless carriers all have transitioned to IPv6 most LTE connections are using it, your LTE Voice uses it as well.
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I was assuming we were talking about businesses going belly up that were renting ip addresses from other providers and the cost of those ips skyrocketing; Not business that had ARIN.
 
Francisco

Francisco

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coreyman said:
I was assuming we were talking about businesses going belly up that were renting ip addresses from other providers and the cost of those ips skyrocketing; Not business that had ARIN.
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Correct.

Prices will go up, I actually have a nice steak dinner riding on how soon.

Francisco
 
drmike

drmike

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Francisco said:
In the end everyone gets fed :D


Francisco
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Too many of those Save the Children commercials growing up :)

Meet Curtis, he lives in the shadows of industry.  Poor Curtis lives on a weird diet.  Can't you see Curtis is starving?  Thanks to the generosity of kind white people like Fran, little Curtis is getting a meal of the finest USA Famine relief gut glue.   Err I mean pizza (poor Italy for we've ruined their delicacy).
 
Francisco

Francisco

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coreyman said:
They are clearing them out quickly aren't they!
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Well, they claimed they had 100 pending tickets for allocations. I know at least 1 - 2 hosts due /18's or bigger that have already been approved, just awaiting allocation.

I figure the /11 will be diced into halves the whole way down.

I'm impressed at how quickly initial (/22's & /23's) allocations are getting eaten up. I figured those would be sitting around for a long time but it's going down fast.

Francisco
 
drmike

drmike

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Still on schedule to be gone during July ;)

... unless someone starts handing allocations back, shuffling from elsewhere, etc.
 
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danielm

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Saw this come across my inbox a few minutes ago from David Huberman on one the ARIN mailing lists:

In a blog post on TeamArin.net on Monday, ARIN indicated that exhaustion was imminent:

http://teamarin.net/2015/06/02/breaking-down-arins-remaining-ipv4-pool/

With the /11 leaving the pool, all that's left is:

1 /16
1 /20
3 /21s
4 /22s

By the end of this week or so, all IPv4 will be exhausted at ARIN except for /23s and /24s.
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Looks like exhaustion may arrive much sooner than July.
 
Francisco

Francisco

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danielm said:
Saw this come across my inbox a few minutes ago from David Huberman on one the ARIN mailing lists:

Looks like exhaustion may arrive much sooner than July.
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Yeah i'm not sure what to think of this one. They've been hinting that the /11 is going away and soon, be it someone takes the whole thing or they have to chop it up (more likely). I'm trying to think of what company/ISP would be big enough to request, and get awarded, a block that large.

I'm also curious why ARIN would even consider giving so much to a single entity and not just go 'listen, this is more or less the whole pool, lets be at least fair'.

Francisco
 
Francisco

Francisco

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drmike said:
Still on schedule to be gone during July ;)

... unless someone starts handing allocations back, shuffling from elsewhere, etc.
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There was a webcast being done for one of the ARIN meetings the other day that went into this pretty well. Supposedly they have something like 8~16 /16's that are pending returning to pool, but that'll still go fairly quick. They claimed they have well over 100 pending resource requests so even if those /16's went into pool quickly, they wouldn't last very long.

ARIN doesn't allocate multiple blocks to fill a request, so approved for a /14 isn't going to get 4 random /16's. What's likely to happen though is that the /14 guy will go back very quickly for multiple blocks ASAP.

ARIN themselves figure mid/late July, even with them being intentionally slow about it all. They have more from IANA in September, but it looks like it's just a /14 or so, not what we calculated up top.

Francisco
 
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drmike

drmike

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Only way they are getting beyond July is through give backs and IANA handout.

Glad the IP issue is finally about to happen and whatever will be happens.  

Ideally innovation happens as a result and we all know that isn't going to come from regulatory paper pushers like ARIN who have been utterly useless since day one.
 
coreyman

coreyman

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drmike said:
Only way they are getting beyond July is through give backs and IANA handout.

Glad the IP issue is finally about to happen and whatever will be happens.  

Ideally innovation happens as a result and we all know that isn't going to come from regulatory paper pushers like ARIN who have been utterly useless since day one.
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Wow, that happened faster than I thought, wonder when IANA is going to crack down on some of these reserved blocks, etc and give them to RIRs?
 
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Francisco

Francisco

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Looks like the /11 was chopped up yesterday, halving it the whole way down.


Discrete Block Size (CIDR) Number of Blocks Available
/12 1
/13 1
/14 1
/15 1
/16 1
/17 1
/18 1
/20 1
/21 3
/22 4
/23 126
/24 477
The /22 and smaller blocks are really burning down fast.
Francisco
 
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