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ARIN Stock Changes Feb 2014 - Down to 1.38

qps

Active Member
Verified Provider
Any idea when the IANA give their next block?
I'd also be interested if there is somewhere publicly that shows what IANA is holding in their returned pool.  I wonder how much (if anything) they have coming in.
 

rds100

New Member
Verified Provider
I'd also be interested if there is somewhere publicly that shows what IANA is holding in their returned pool.  I wonder how much (if anything) they have coming in.
Why would anyone return anything to IANA when they can simply sell it and profit a lot?
 

qps

Active Member
Verified Provider
Why would anyone return anything to IANA when they can simply sell it and profit a lot?
ARIN was doing a deal until recently where if you returned space you would get your fees reduced.  Not sure if the other RIRs did this as well, but I'm sure that led to some space being returned.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Did a few lines of scripting this morning to get a tally.


<?php

$total = 0;

$rows = explode("\n", file_get_contents('iana.txt'));

foreach($rows as $row) {

$row = explode("\t", $row);

$total += ip2long($row[1]) - ip2long($row[0]);

}

echo $total;

?>
The spare pool has 2,128,008 addresses spare, which means on September 1st each region will get another /13. One of the regions is going to get just shy of a /13, i'd assume AFRINIC will get all but a /24 or something since they have so much spare space.
Francisco
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Looks like another /15+ gone today.

0.20->0.16 in just a few days.

Any new bets? I owe someone a pizza at this point, I need to go back and figure out who :p

Francisco
 

Nett

Article Submitter
Verified Provider
They will probably have under 0.05 of /8 before they receive another block from IANA in September.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
They will probably have under 0.05 of /8 before they receive another block from IANA in September.
Uhh...

Well, I guess if you want that bet? :p

I was thinking they'll be dry of anything > /23 by mid/late July.

Francisco
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I can't wait for the supply of IPs to run dry.  Time to get the circus entertainment going with IPv4 and see what comes to be.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
I can't wait for the supply of IPs to run dry.  Time to get the circus entertainment going with IPv4 and see what comes to be.
It'll be a problem for the people that have been selling huge stocks of IP's for next to free just to fill more forms the most. They won't have much spare and they have tons of customers with /24's for a simple E3 kinda deal. I expect some fairly large dedicated providers to bump pricing on those blocks and fast.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
When the IP free pool runs out, suddenly a whole bunch of barely viable / break even type outfits are going shopping for new homes and cars, at least in their minds.

All I can say is good luck to them and they better hit it hard and quick selling their company for IP value essentially.
 

coreyman

Active Member
Verified Provider
When the IP free pool runs out, suddenly a whole bunch of barely viable / break even type outfits are going shopping for new homes and cars, at least in their minds.

All I can say is good luck to them and they better hit it hard and quick selling their company for IP value essentially.
Yea I'm waiting for this. There will be a lot less providers/flybynights afterwards.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Yea I'm waiting for this. There will be a lot less providers/flybynights afterwards.
... assuming anyone actually buys companies and does so in mass at those dollars.   I don't think that is going to happen.  Sure $50k or less deals are more likely especially where some other assets maybe in deal.   Can't see people mass spending millions just cause of lack of free pool.

Exchanges and IP leasing will tamp down prices too.

I may be wrong and irrational overspending might happen.  Others think it will, I do not think so for long or for much time.
 

coreyman

Active Member
Verified Provider
... assuming anyone actually buys companies and does so in mass at those dollars. I don't think that is going to happen. Sure $50k or less deals are more likely especially where some other assets maybe in deal. Can't see people mass spending millions just cause of lack of free pool.


Exchanges and IP leasing will tamp down prices too.


I may be wrong and irrational overspending might happen. Others think it will, I do not think so for long or for much time.
No I dont believe anyone is going to buy these failing companies. I think they will just go out of business.

Acquisitions dont happen overnight and when they cant pay their bills before the acquisition has even takEn place theyll just die.
 
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