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Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Can you share the scripts? Databases are of more importance for me to backup. For a cPanel account, it seems possible to backup using custom scripts, but seems impossible for a reseller account to backup each cPanel under it. Correct me if I am wrong.
You misunderstand :)

What I'm saying is that by the end of this weekend we'll have nightly backups being taken of all accounts and we'll keep 1 week rolling.

Be aware that restores require a ticket, but it's free to restore within reason.

Francisco
 

bizzard

Active Member
You misunderstand :)
I was asking about the particular setup that arieonline mentioned, like a cPanel customer or reseller having his/her own setup to backup data, including databases periodically to a separate server.

Be aware that restores require a ticket, but it's free to restore within reason.
Its always a peace for mind to know that there is a copy of the recent data present in a separate node and is one of the major reason why I run VPS with cPanel license, paying around 25$ per monthfor a few clients.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
I was asking about the particular setup that arieonline mentioned, like a cPanel customer or reseller having his/her own setup to backup data, including databases periodically to a separate server.

Its always a peace for mind to know that there is a copy of the recent data present in a separate node and is one of the major reason why I run VPS with cPanel license, paying around 25$ per monthfor a few clients.
Makes sense :) We do keep nightly backups of all SSD plans in LV and will be rolling backups to NJ very soon.

Francisco
 

willie

Active Member
NGINX doesn't handle apache HTACCESS files nicely. Litespeed is a drop in replacement meaning users rarely have to modify anything in their HTACCESS files to get the job done. As this product grows it'd simply be too much effort on both the customer and on us to manually add regexp matches. Now, there is some nginx plugins for cpanel that will do some weird magic to pass the htaccess to apache to parse, but I've not spent much time researching it.


We don't have Ruby enabled but I can get that done. Python shouldn't be a big deal since you can just use htaccess to tell it to treat python files as CGI scripts.
Hmm, ok, that's interesting about htaccess and nginx and I didn't realize it was an issue.  Is litespeed really that much faster than apache?  Apache was considered pretty good back in the day, given its concurrency model that Litespeed might also have to follow for compatibility reasons (not sure).

It's great if it's possible to run arbitrary cgi scripts from htaccess and I think that's not typical of cheap shared hosting, though I don't have much experience with that.  Python is fine with me, I don't care about Ruby, though others might.  Note that Ruby (particularly Rails) is a pretty bad performance pig compared with Python or PHP, which themselves aren't that great to start with.  If it's possible to launch arbitrary scripts from within PHP, that also increases flexibility, though maybe makes security harder.  Can I upload my own executables and run them as cgi's or from php scripts?

Overall this seems like a great product and I hope it's sustainable for you.  I've been a bit reluctant to run low traffic web servers on VPS's because of maintenance burden (monitoring, security patches etc) while low-rent shared hosting has generally had too many limitations.  This seems to address almost every issue.
 
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willie

Active Member
It's cPanel @willie
Thanks, maybe I'm a little bit unusual in that I'm pretty comfortable with Linux and don't know anything about cpanel, rather than the other way around.  I can deal with initial setup without needing something like cpanel.  Shared hosting mostly interests me from the viewpoint of not having to worry about restarting servers when they crash and so on.
 

willie

Active Member
One other question -- if you use SSL, how do you deal with the issue of loading the private key into the server at server restart?  Please don't say the key is stored on disk in plaintext.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
One other question -- if you use SSL, how do you deal with the issue of loading the private key into the server at server restart?  Please don't say the key is stored on disk in plaintext.
That's how shared works. Keys aren't encrypted but are stored in your home directory. When you go to shared

you have to sacrifice the tinfoil hat along the way. If you want complete control over all those

aspects then a VPS or dedicated are your only options.

Fran, are you using LSWS or OpenLSWS?
The paid enterprise edition.

Thanks, maybe I'm a little bit unusual in that I'm pretty comfortable with Linux and don't know anything about cpanel, rather than the other way around.  I can deal with initial setup without needing something like cpanel.  Shared hosting mostly interests me from the viewpoint of not having to worry about restarting servers when they crash and so on.
cPanel is all about hand holding for the end user. It does do a ton of hand holding for the admin side of things but far more for the end user. As an end user you pretty much sacrifice a lot of your freedom in how the platform is run, what you can run, etc, for a simple solution that "just works" 99% of the time.

If you need django or memcache/redis? Shared isn't a good option for these due to security. Do you want to run some standard wordpress setup on a really tight budget? OK that works.

I think you're looking at the product in the wrong light.

Francisco
 
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raindog308

vpsBoard Premium Member
Moderator
I think you're looking at the product in the wrong light.
Yeah, there aren't too many people doing non-cpanel (or non-other-panel) shared hosting, though it would be possible. Back in the early 90s - remember those www.example.com/~myname URLs? :) - people did, but it soon got tricky as people wanted to create MySQL databases (needed MySQL root), add domains (needed root), etc. and so control panels were born.

There's probably a market for "smart guys' shared hosting" but I expect it's very small. There are some non-cpanel options out there - e.g., Microsoft Azure Sites - but they're specialist/high performance/way more than cPanel.

The paid enterprise edition.
Historically, BuyVM allowed adult content...I guess not for BuyShared?
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Yeah, there aren't too many people doing non-cpanel (or non-other-panel) shared hosting, though it would be possible. Back in the early 90s - remember those www.example.com/~myname URLs? :) - people did, but it soon got tricky as people wanted to create MySQL databases (needed MySQL root), add domains (needed root), etc. and so control panels were born.

There's probably a market for "smart guys' shared hosting" but I expect it's very small. There are some non-cpanel options out there - e.g., Microsoft Azure Sites - but they're specialist/high performance/way more than cPanel.

Historically, BuyVM allowed adult content...I guess not for BuyShared?
Porn isn't a big deal. If litespeed makes it one we'll go down that path when it's time. I've yet to hear of anyone getting suspended under that rule, though.

I think the rule was mostly to stop like, pornhub or something like that from using it.

Francisco
 

willie

Active Member
Nah I'm not trying to do anything fancy like Django, just some ultra low traffic personal static pages and simple cgi's that get maybe a dozen clicks a year.  It hadn't even occurred to me that it was possible to run something like redis (a persistent server process that keeps listener sockets open, as opposed to a cgi that only runs when someone clicks it) on shared hosting.  I am a little bit tinfoil about security as you put it though.  I'd asked about running arbitary binaries to be able to use other languages without having to worry about which compilers you had installed.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
any estimated time when white label domain used for buyshared  ?  :rolleyes: 

:popcorn:
There's one ready for DNS, i'm just deciding on one for cpanel if that's what you're asking :)

If you got some ideas send them my way and I'll have it done by morning.

Francisco
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
A quick update for those still following.

- Cloudlinux has been rolled out the current node and will be on all future nodes

- Whitelabeling has been setup for both nameservers & the SSL service ports

- Litespeed is still in use, but has been tuned to support the cloudlinux PHP version changer

Nothing too crazy. Still working on backups but there's a few more stallion changes

I need to complete before I can get those taking.

As mentioned prior, restores will require a ticket. This will be free within reason.

Francisco
 

raj

Active Member
Is email hosting included in the cPanel based BuyVM Shared gig?  Or are we talking just web/ftp access.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Is email hosting included in the cPanel based BuyVM Shared gig?  Or are we talking just web/ftp access.
Of course.

It's full cpanel, so whatever cpanel supports we do and then some via softaculous.

We have Cloudlinux in place now so you have full SSH as well as the ability to control your PHP version.

Francisco
 
nice deal. interested to buy 125gb reseller plan.


I'm afraid of account termination, if some of my clients overload our servers, whole reseller account getting banned or only particular account will get ban?
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
nice deal. interested to buy 125gb reseller plan.


I'm afraid of account termination, if some of my clients overload our servers, whole reseller account getting banned or only particular account will get ban?
I don't think any provider suspends the entire reseller account. Do they? I'm willing to bet they probably just suspend the individual cPanel user that is causing the problem.
 
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