ChicagoVPS reaching new levels of desperation
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
2GB @ $1.67 a month. Hahahah!
The number creeps lower.
Why would I go with CVPS, with their multiple hacks and customer info disclosure? Why would I buy that when for $5/mo I can have far more resources, way more disk, way more bandwidth with GVH.
Always nice to see the folks in Buffalo cannibalizing themselves. Gnom gnom gnom.
Where is the CC brand that pays you to host with them?
The number creeps lower.
Why would I go with CVPS, with their multiple hacks and customer info disclosure? Why would I buy that when for $5/mo I can have far more resources, way more disk, way more bandwidth with GVH.
Always nice to see the folks in Buffalo cannibalizing themselves. Gnom gnom gnom.
Where is the CC brand that pays you to host with them?
As I said elsewhere 2014 will be a bad year for many hosts. A lot of bubbles will burst but after this the IPs will make enough of a profit to sustain many spammers hosts, probably starting in 2015, IF things continue to go like this and there wont be any release from the locked /8s.
I personally believe the transition will be smoother than many people think, IPv4 prices will not go that high, who is basing their business model on that will probably, if not lose out at least not make much of a profit.
I personally believe the transition will be smoother than many people think, IPv4 prices will not go that high, who is basing their business model on that will probably, if not lose out at least not make much of a profit.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
3 years screams desperation, but 3 years is also a bad deal for consumers due to the pace of technological change. $1.67/m may be cheap today but it probably won't be in 3 years.
For an example, I picked up a Q6700 for 18 euros (8GB RAM, 2x1TB drives) this month fom Kimsufi (to be used for a web analytics server, we're dumping google analytics). 3 years ago that same configuration would have cost $250+ at LSN
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They've got to be hurting some.
No longer a popular brand on LET, replaced by many others using the same network as them who aren't as arrogant and dickish in their public communication. Tried to game SlickDeals with other CC brands by getting featured there several times. Most the members there are atleast aware of their past and are reluctant to do business with them now. At the end of the day, there are just so many other better options. Even if you WANT a VPS in a CC location you have many options to choose from, most of which are ran by friendly people who haven't had their client's info leaked several times and are not repetitive liars.
I think their last LEB offer was a 3 year one too.
No longer a popular brand on LET, replaced by many others using the same network as them who aren't as arrogant and dickish in their public communication. Tried to game SlickDeals with other CC brands by getting featured there several times. Most the members there are atleast aware of their past and are reluctant to do business with them now. At the end of the day, there are just so many other better options. Even if you WANT a VPS in a CC location you have many options to choose from, most of which are ran by friendly people who haven't had their client's info leaked several times and are not repetitive liars.
I think their last LEB offer was a 3 year one too.
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mikho
Not to be taken seriously, ever!
It was, guess it didn't sell as well as hoped for.
Yep.
Been trying to get out of the emails for a while now.
Although maybe it finally worked? I didn't receive the e-mail joepie posted.
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Just change your email address to [email protected] and let the auto-responders go back and forth creating tickets to each other.
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That is evil...
... and pure genius.
Although unfortunately I believe they don't allow e-mail changes
They seem to be sent out slowly, some people were reporting receiving it over an hour after I got it.
vRozenSch00n
Active Member
Just got it a few minutes ago
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
That's what Spamhaus is for.
nunim
VPS Junkie
Someone on IRC came up with this idea, I've changed my email to [email protected] as they don't own the .com anymore, it redirects here. Hopefully I don't have to worry about further spam.
I don't think CVPS' move is to secure IP space. I think they're either planning a large scale upgrade (a positive for their customers) or are trying to buy themselves some time to build a new business plan. The resource race isn't working anymore and while they were the first, it's obvious that other inhouse brands are doing far more than they are for 'about' the same cost.
Francisco
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
"The resource race isn't working anymore and while they were the first, it's obvious that other inhouse brands are doing far more than they are for 'about' the same cost."
The resource race sort of still works if you want to be highly risky, piss off your customers with outages, suspensions, etc. for using things and are willing to self-cannibalize (eat your own limbs).
What the segment is doing though, mainly, is rearranging deck chairs on the Titantic. The market size I suspect as a whole is growing, but not in the lowend, and especially now on the Lowendshites. New companies are undercutting weak slightly higher priced companies in the same / similar geo-locations. Customer A now goes from Company 1 to Company 2.
Inevitably, this chaos is customer churn like crazy.
If I were buying lowend hosts (hey you never know) I'd be looking at month-to-month paying customers and retention numbers. How many 6 month paying customers? How many for a year? And, I'd be raking over how many customers are purely from deep discount sales. These new companies swapping customers are basically perma-sale companies. Have everything for a few bucks a month and even less if you need committed for buying an annual.
The resource race sort of still works if you want to be highly risky, piss off your customers with outages, suspensions, etc. for using things and are willing to self-cannibalize (eat your own limbs).
What the segment is doing though, mainly, is rearranging deck chairs on the Titantic. The market size I suspect as a whole is growing, but not in the lowend, and especially now on the Lowendshites. New companies are undercutting weak slightly higher priced companies in the same / similar geo-locations. Customer A now goes from Company 1 to Company 2.
Inevitably, this chaos is customer churn like crazy.
If I were buying lowend hosts (hey you never know) I'd be looking at month-to-month paying customers and retention numbers. How many 6 month paying customers? How many for a year? And, I'd be raking over how many customers are purely from deep discount sales. These new companies swapping customers are basically perma-sale companies. Have everything for a few bucks a month and even less if you need committed for buying an annual.
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I doubt you're seeing much in the way of cash deals for all the buyouts that are, and will, be happening.
When Rus used to "buy" brands, he never actually paid anything.
Users were paid out of the net profits for a certain period of months. This made sure that Rus never
actually stood a chance of losing money.
You sell him a brand and lose all your customers because you're a scumbag? No worries, he dusts his hands
and he's good. He buys you and you were a solid company? Great, everyone makes money and he migrated all users
to his datacenters of choice.
Francisco
When Rus used to "buy" brands, he never actually paid anything.
Users were paid out of the net profits for a certain period of months. This made sure that Rus never
actually stood a chance of losing money.
You sell him a brand and lose all your customers because you're a scumbag? No worries, he dusts his hands
and he's good. He buys you and you were a solid company? Great, everyone makes money and he migrated all users
to his datacenters of choice.
Francisco
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